Dear Conservatives: If You Want to Live in a Theocracy, Get the Hell Out of the United States

[KamaAina]

http://www.forwardprogressives.com/dear-conservatives-want-live-theocracy-get-hell-united-states/

The word “freedom” is something I don’t think most conservatives understand. While it can be subjective at times (I wouldn’t recommend yelling “bomb” in an airport, for instance) it’s not really that difficult of a concept to grasp. Especially when it comes to religion.

See, in this country, religion is meant to be a private matter. After all, isn’t that much simpler? Even those who believe that this country was founded on Christianity can’t tell me what denomination we should follow. Because the fact of the matter is, Catholics and Baptists (while both Christians) practice their faiths very differently.

“Religious freedom,” as conservatives like to call it, means that privately we’re allowed to identify with whatever religion we want to identify with. That doesn’t mean, however, that we’re allowed to discriminate against people just because we disagree with them.

Our Constitution, as subjective as it might be, presents one undeniable fact – the words Christianity, Christian, God or Jesus Christ appear within its text not even once.

[HassleCat]

1. And there are nice places to go.

Unfortunately, the Christian theocracies seem to have faded away. Some of the small towns in Utah and Idaho are de facto Mormon theocracies, but that's unofficial. Still, if it's important to a person to be able to punish sinners, it should be worth the price of converting to Islam and moving to Saudi Arabia, for example.

[HughBeaumont]

2. +1,000.

It's the HEIGHT of hubris for believers of mythology to think they should have any kind of say in 2016 governing. Or 1986 governing or whenever. Patently ridiculous.

[63splitwindow]

3. + 1 amen. Religious freedom--- a cornerstone of the founding of the United States of America.

[Augiedog]

4. Yes! Get out of America! Go to Texas where critical thinking is acriminal act

[Dustlawyer]

5. Not appreciated very much!

[yortsed snacilbuper]

9. Try to be nice, there are a lot of good people in Texas.

Almost every Atheist I meet was raised in a religious family and had to pretend they believed because of the repercussions they faced.

You have to be brave telling people you lack belief in god, you could get yourself killed.

[Nevernose]

22. The best thing about being from Texas?

Is being FROM Texas.

There are wonderful things about Texas -- from the best barbecue in the world to the lush forests to the incredible, amazing people -- but living there again just isn't something I can't picture.

[KamaAina]

21. Especially at UT and Rice and places like that.

[lark]

6. Doubt there are people like that on this board.

If there are, they won't get it. They definitely want a theocracy, but only for their faith or ones similar to it. They decry Sharia law, but want to make their beliefs the LAW. They don't understand that they are total hypocrites and have no clue about the constitution and that it in zero ways supports the beliefs they want to push on everyone else.

[Joe Chi Minh]

7. What ? You prefer Satanism ? Because that's on the rise in

the US. Super nature, like nature, abhors a vacuum. Secularism is mythical : you each have your own bizarre personal religion.

Islam would fill the gap, if you managed to get rid of Christianity as your country's cultural ethos, and then where would you be ? They'd make short work of the satanists for a kick-off.

[Major Nikon]

8. Rock-n-roll causes devil worship

[Initech]

14. At least we've got our own TV network!

[Wednesdays]

19. False Dilemma 101.

nt

[stuffmatters]

10. Religious freedom means "their" religious beliefs don't get to negate others beliefs/rights

I wish the Supreme Court would use that as the scale, instead of protecting religious believers/institutions even when their actions
deny others their constitutional rights. Obviously the contradiction between "the religion loophole" and women's rights is appalling.

[DinahMoeHum]

11. Well, as the bumpersticker says. . .

[treestar]

12. Good one. Puts it very well.

Why do these people not understand that their own religious freedom depends on the First Amendment too - if another religion became dominate, they could be truly persecuted in the system they advocate.

[Initech]

13. The mixture of religion and politics is a dangerous cocktail no matter where you live.

[Wounded Bear]

15. Without freedom FROM religion...

there is no freedom OF religion.

[linuxman]

17. What would you consider freedom FROM religion?

[Wounded Bear]

20. Well, for starters....

stop writing and passing laws based on religious teachings and more on science and real socio-economic principles.

The whole abortion debate is really a "freedom from religion" issue to me. There is no medical science that says it should be anything but the choice of the woman in consultation with her doctor. I know a lot of people claim that it isn't based on religion, but I know that without support of the RW religious types, this would have been a non-issue 40 years ago.

There are many issues which get subtly affected by religious belief, and I'd like to see that reined in.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Freedom of religion includes Freedom * from * religion.

Further, there are many idiots who are paranoid about Sharia law being instituted in the US and even say Obama is doing just that.

If they don't want Sharia law, they must respect people who don't want christian law or judaic law or satanic law.

[DLevine]

18. Yup. K&R. nt

[colsohlibgal]

23. Delusional Thinking

So many are brainwashed when quite young and buy in. Others buy in later.

Despite what some think none of us really know the truth of reality or what, if anything, happens when we die. I know this much....something springing out of nothing seems a huge reach, so there is something we don't understand about the whole thing.