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Clinton silent on Dakota Pipeline (Original Post) ciaobaby Aug 2016 OP
Likely because the people protesting it are doing a pretty good job exposing it. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #1
no - not grandstanding ciaobaby Aug 2016 #2
The perception of grandstanding could indeed, be a collective one LanternWaste Aug 2016 #5
Native Americans are waiting for her to speak out. ciaobaby Aug 2016 #7
And honestly, I'd love her to do it. It's an absolute good, and seeing her take a position on it LanternWaste Aug 2016 #8
Thats a nasty attack. I'm sure she has an opinion and will be speaking up. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #14
Thank you. This is the fine line that she walks with the Press every day. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #15
Absolutely grandstanding. Something she does not have to do at this point in her campaign misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #3
a more current response regarding Dakota pipeline and the need for Clinton to step up. ciaobaby Aug 2016 #6
Oh boy. Of course the damning opinon from commondreams. I Should have known. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #9
maybe read the article....... ciaobaby Aug 2016 #11
No thanks. There are better sources for what's going on than the opinion of CDr. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #13
The only person I want to speak out is Obama - to stop it. Avalux Aug 2016 #4
Yes. President Obama is the man in power. His voice on this is the one we need to hear . misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #10
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Apparently the AFL-CIO endorsed the pipeline and HRC might be afraid of alienating unions ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #16
 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
1. Likely because the people protesting it are doing a pretty good job exposing it.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 04:02 PM
Aug 2016

To jump in there now would be grandstanding.

 

ciaobaby

(1,000 posts)
2. no - not grandstanding
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 04:04 PM
Aug 2016

It would show support ! I would think that would be important to know how she feels on this very important issue.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
5. The perception of grandstanding could indeed, be a collective one
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 05:02 PM
Aug 2016

The perception of grandstanding could indeed, be a collective one. When she spotlighted the issue of polluted drinking water in Michigan in April, many people... even (unfortunately) many DUers accused her not merely of politicizing the issue, but "exploiting it for her benefit", that it was "nothing but a campaign photo op". That all she did was "exploit a crisis and human suffering for political gain..." (A quick search revealed these)

If that was levied against her on DU, imagine how 'less tolerant' people in the heartland may react to it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. And honestly, I'd love her to do it. It's an absolute good, and seeing her take a position on it
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 05:51 PM
Aug 2016

And honestly, I'd love her to do it. It's an absolute good, and seeing her take a position on it would be no small comfort. It would be an honest use of her pulpit to bring attention to this.

Maybe my initial position was wrong. I guess that if the only people setting the bar for grandstanding with "she doesn't have to do it..." are the same ones complaining, they may not be all that savvy in the first place.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
14. Thats a nasty attack. I'm sure she has an opinion and will be speaking up.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 06:29 PM
Aug 2016

But leave it to commondreams & their disdain for all things Hillary.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
15. Thank you. This is the fine line that she walks with the Press every day.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 06:34 PM
Aug 2016

With 2 months to go till the election, she is stepping very carefully.
Because she's not giving a statement on the news doesn't mean she is ignoring the issue.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
3. Absolutely grandstanding. Something she does not have to do at this point in her campaign
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 04:27 PM
Aug 2016

Grandstanding is something a losing candidate does to gain a demographic.
Hillary already has the endorsement of the Sioux Tribe.

Statement of Endorsement /From June 2016

On Friday, Chairman Harold Frazier of Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe and Councilman Ken Hall of MHA Nation will hold a press conference call to discuss their support for Hillary Clinton.

I AM HONORED TO JOIN MY FELLOW TRIBAL CHAIRMEN IN SUPPORTING SECRETARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT,” CHEYENNE RIVER SIOUX TRIBE CHAIRMAN HAROLD FRAZIER SAID. “SECRETARY CLINTON HAS SHOWN THROUGH HER DECADES OF PUBLIC SERVICE HER RESPECT FOR TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY AND THE SACRED TRUST BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND OUR NATIVE NATIONS. AS PRESIDENT, SECRETARY CLINTON WILL BE A STRONG VOICE FOR INDIAN COUNTRY.”

“Hillary Clinton represents positive opportunity for continued economic and social development in Indian Country,” Chairman Mark Fox of MHA Nation said. “She has a proven track record in supporting legislation and initiatives that benefit indigenous nations throughout the United States. Her leadership has demonstrated a willingness to work with all minorities and people of color. She strives to combat the racism and inequality that have plagued our country for far too long.

“IN SIMPLEST TERMS, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTS NATIVE AMERICA, AND IT IS OBVIOUS THAT HER OPPONENT DONALD TRUMP DOES NOT. A FACT WE KNOW HE WILL NEVER DENY OR SEEK TO CHANGE, AND OUR INDIGENOUS PEOPLES WILL REMIND HIM OF HIS SHORT-COMINGS IN NOVEMBER.

“The first woman president of the United States, Hillary Clinton, is the first choice for progression, not regression, of the American dream for all!”


A list of tribal leader endorsements includes representations from 10 of the 13 American Indian tribes in the two states:

South Dakota Tribal Leaders

Chairman Harold Frazier, Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe
Chairman Brandon Sauze, Crow Creek Sioux Tribe
Chairman Anthony Reider, Flandreau Santee Sioux Tribe
Chairman William Kindle, Rosebud Sioux Tribe
Chairman Robert Flying Hawk, Yankton Sioux Tribe

North Dakota Tribal Leaders

Chairman Mark Fox, Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara Nation (MHA Nation)
Councilman Ken Hall, Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara Nation (MHA Nation)
Chairman Richard W. McCloud, Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians (TMBCI)
North and South Dakota Tribal Leaders
Chairman Dave Archambault II, Standing Rock Sioux Tribe
Chairman David Flute, Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
9. Oh boy. Of course the damning opinon from commondreams. I Should have known.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 06:04 PM
Aug 2016

Has common dreams ever supported Hillary Clinton?
When?
How often have they written in support of her?

Explains the creepy feeling of "concern" with the Original Post.
The Sioux Tribes are good with Sec Clinton.
Sorry, commondreams has to do more to support the Hillary & Dem candidates to be taken seriously.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
13. No thanks. There are better sources for what's going on than the opinion of CDr.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 06:21 PM
Aug 2016

I grew up in that country. It is pure, pristeen & spiritual. The land & water should be protected above all threats from industry. I lived there as a child & most of my adult life.
I'm well aware of how the Natives have always been treated.
I proudly stand with them in keeping this fight going till the end.
Though they are up against State govt's that are so deeply owned by the coal & oil industry, they speak from the place of absolute truth.
Its a big fight but these are a people who are owed respect & who are on the right side of this battle.

Their support will grow in numbers & they deserve to be heard.
I look to President Obama for his validation.
Thank you

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
4. The only person I want to speak out is Obama - to stop it.
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 04:51 PM
Aug 2016

It's an urgent matter than needs to be dealt with quickly before they get the damn thing built (by the end of the year).

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
10. Yes. President Obama is the man in power. His voice on this is the one we need to hear .
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 06:08 PM
Aug 2016

It needs to be stopped for the exact reason given by the Tribes.

Response to misterhighwasted (Reply #10)

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
16. Apparently the AFL-CIO endorsed the pipeline and HRC might be afraid of alienating unions
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 08:49 PM
Oct 2016

Or that's what I read anyway.
Otherwise it's hard to imagine why she isn't talking about it.

Obama took some action. I wonder if there is anything further he can do.

There was a court case yesterday trying to get an injunction to stop it.

News says
Judge Grants Partial Stop on North Dakota Pipeline Work
http://abcnews.go.com/US/controversial-dakota-access-pipeline-case-back-court/story?id=42585486

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