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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy FOX News is poisonous to our discourse?
Basically, they are a political propaganda network. Although they may insert some legitimate news stories into their coverage, in the end, they are going to present an opposing view to whatever the Democratic Party and its ally, the "liberal media", might present.
If the Democrats say it is "day", they will report that it is "night". If the Democrats say that Trump is a "racist', they will report otherwise. That may be a legitimate political argument?
But at what point does it conflict with reality so much that people are confused from the opposing representations? They say that they are the ones that are "fair and balanced". But, are they?
For example, when someone says that Donald Trump is a quiet and humane person, that simply does not compute? Reality and facts are important. Very important.
To create stories or narratives to fit a political agenda can create conflicts within the minds of a gullible public. It is not "reporting". It is not "news". It is pure political propaganda.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)She is not to be believed. Russell Brand did an impression of her once. spot on. She has a perpetual sneer and refers to our candidate as THAT BITCH.
kentuck
(111,103 posts)It's everywhere.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)of the mods?
what a bunch of wimps
that's a sorry bunch of twits they picked for the debates
he's going to run roughshod over them......that last spineless interview by cooper was embarrassing. did the dems see that? or had they already made up their minds
trump must be salivating......
kentuck
(111,103 posts)Partisanship would be easily recognized by a large group of Americans. They would not go there, in my opinion.
Cary
(11,746 posts)I do think Trump, after he loses, will deliver a more ideologically pure alternative.
Ideology is the enemy. People use it like religion. It is faith based and anti-intellectual. Adherents are zealots. However I think FoxPAC reinforces the ideology, not the other way around.
virgogal
(10,178 posts)Ideology is a system of beliefs and could apply to anything.
Cary
(11,746 posts)When it is a priori it is indistinguishable from religion.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Is reprehensible. That includes MSNBC. To claim that propaganda and handpicking stories to fit a narrative is a right wing only behavior is just too convenient.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 3, 2016, 08:37 PM - Edit history (1)
+ 1000 !!!!!
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)hand wringing is also very convenient
nice try; thanks for playing
using msnbc as an example of "left wing" narrative building is laughable, especially when you take the ridiculous twits that inhabit their coverage until the evening, during which time chris Matthews pollutes the scene with his own faux macho, codpiece worshipping false equivalency parade. the only ones that provide any sense of balance to the venal pronouncements of the rest of the corporate media are the ones that follow him, and the occasional appearances of Joy Reid (she does have her own show on weekend mornings, and to be fair, often goes over the line in the other direction. that said, she just doesn't put up with the constant barrage of subject changing obfuscation with which the organized surrogates are clearly assigned to push at the most obnoxious levels imaginable, boris epshteyn's laughable performance on CNN today being a prime example)
tymorial
(3,433 posts)You can dismiss me and engage in snark. I really don't care. There is a distinct lack of consistency when it comes to condemnation of the media in regards to bias.
I am on my phone which is why I did not look up the link and post it.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)for every Pew poll I can cite one that shows how completely biased against the Clintons, gore, Kerry, etal, have been. how far back do you care to go
hurry, though, cause I'm outta here
let's start here: I tried to find some links to support my thesis, and look what came up when I google this:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=media+bias+against+democrats
almost EVERY single link takes you to a conservative site, claiming the opposite. wonder why that could ever be
let's start here, with a link that puts the lie to perhaps the most common fairy tale about so-called left leaning journalists, themselves (while, of course ignoring the obvious fact of the ownership of all major media by anti-democratic {small 'd'} monopoly capitalists of the lowest order)
http://fair.org/blog-entries/2009/10/09/cjrs-bogus-liberal-media-evidence/comment-page-1/
◾On select issues from corporate power and trade to Social Security and Medicare to healthcare and taxes, journalists are actually more conservative than the general public.
read the comments....most are equally on point, except a few by raving imbeciles
buh bye
tymorial
(3,433 posts)As I said, lacking consistency.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)then snark has a liberal bias.
people allow themselves to be poisoned by them?
kentuck
(111,103 posts)from too much junk food, football, NASCAR, and Sean Hannity. Throw in Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, a four-wheeler, an alligator, and the American flag and you are on your way to enlightenment.
the only thing in that list to have infected me is junk food, and even that's not frequent.
Seriously...why do humans need someone else to do their thinking for them, someone to follow? We simply cannot overcome herd/pack instincts?