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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes the username "Frank Solich" sound familiar to anyone?
He donated $10 to my wheelchair ramp campaign, but left a nasty message along with the donation. Isn't he one of those people from That Hate Site? I refuse to go there, so I am not sure. Still, that's pretty low. I don't understand why these people hate me so much just because I am poor and disabled, and I need help.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)probably a fake name
underpants
(182,826 posts)Oldem
(833 posts)was head football coach at Nebraska and now holds that position at Ohio Univ. Don't know if this is the same guy.
Lyric
(12,675 posts)as an internet username. I can't imagine that the real Frank Solich would use his real name and leave such a mean-spirited message.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)I'd like to see it, or can you link to your gofundme site?
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)Count on it. This is your person who "reported" you and got your account frozen.
They have to have made a donation to file the complaint.
Lyric
(12,675 posts)I am not a liar or a fraud. GoFundMe already investigated me. This is getting ridiculous
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)Period. Simple.
This guy lives to make the lives of Democrats a living hell, it is his sole purpose in life apparently.
As you can see, he has been doing it for years.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Frank was stalking me through the Deaf/HOH group on du for a while. He came up with all sorts of things about me that weren't true. I am sorry he's being a jerk towards you.
And guess what? There are a couple threads at the cave about this gofundme and this particular thread, including this screen capture. Thanks Frank you ass.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)I think so, anyway.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)See http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024993511
He's probably trying to find a way to get donations to you frozen, I'm afraid. Any advice on how to deal with this from DUers who have knowledge will be most welcome, everyone.
Lyric
(12,675 posts)So they must be filing complaints against me again. At this point they seem to want me to produce receipts for every dollar spent from the campaign. I didn't know that I needed to save the receipts! I hope that taking pictures of the wheelchair repairs and the shower seat and bars will be acceptable. And the $70 I spent for a membership to a health center with a heated pool that specializes in rehab for spine patients. It's $35 a month but they required a $35 deposit as well. I also paid for a new walker and a cane, and some supportive pillows for my bed so I can sit up, and new seat cushions for my wheelchair. We are waiting to hear back from the Center for Independent Living about the costs for the wheelchair ramp. We can't do anything about that until we have more information.
I feel so frustrated and scared. I am just trying to make my disabilities a little easier to cope with. Have I done anything wrong??
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)Return the donation and don't worry about it,
or,
know you got $10 out of him and smile.
Response to Lyric (Original post)
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MineralMan
(146,317 posts)from the University of Nebraska at Lincoln. There is a "franksolich" at that other website, who has misappropriated the coach's name. They are not in any way the same person. Not even close. The original is a talented man who worked hard to create winning teams. The other is a misanthrope who leads a scurrilous website that attacks people who disagree with him.
The two should never be confused with each other.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)NBachers
(17,119 posts)demmiblue
(36,863 posts)I am sorry you are going through this.
I wish I had the means to help.
jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)of the last good football coach the Nebraska Huskers had. Still wish he was here with the team
herding cats
(19,565 posts)It seems what they're doing should be illegal, but I don't know how you'd go about filing charges.
What I suggest now is you mention to go find me that this person has done this before, and motion what you've been told in this thread. They may have some sort of record on them?
Again, I'm sorry this sick individual has chosen to target you!
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)Do you have a copy of the nasty message left by frank solich and do you have a link to your gofundme site?
I've learned on the internet to trust, but verify.
I don't think anyone hates you, but when parting with their own dollars, they want to be sure their money is going to a good cause.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)shadowrider
(4,941 posts)I see donations for $10, but nothing that backs up the assertion that frank solich (whoever he is) said anything mean.
Trust but verify. I'd donate but I want to make sure whoever is asking for money is honest.
It isn't too much to ask.
I work hard for my money and until recently, I was in a bad way. I'm getting on my feet but was totally honest all the way. All I ask is the same in return.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)returned. Given the particular person's history with this site I would say lyric has nothing to prove
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)if the assertion is made, the assertion must be proven.
Would you like it if I said msanthrope made disparaging comments against me with no proof and I complained to DU admins? Would you agree that's ok? If so, I apologize. If it isn't ok, my statement stands.
There are dollars at stake. All I'm asking for is proof of the the insult. Nothing more, nothing less. The lack of response raises red flags with me.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)well known for his horrific behavior towards our members here.
I am not.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)but an assertion he made disparaging comments without proof, especially when money is involved, raises the flag.
You didn't answer the question. Would it be ok if I said msanthrope made disparaging comments about me to DU admin without proof?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Please send them this thread.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)shadowrider
(4,941 posts)What is nasty about that?
If someone has the skills to do what the gofundme site is asking or, what is mean?
If I asked someone to pour me a new driveway, yet I had the skills to do such work, why would I want someone else to pay for what I'm capable of doing?
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)I gave you proof and now you complain because you think she is able to do the work? WTF?
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)Nowhere did I say "she" should do the work. "Ben" was asked to.
My keyboard screws up. It should have said, "she", not "he"..
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)If someone has the skills to do what the gofundme site is asking or, what is mean?
If I asked someone to pour me a new driveway, yet I had the skills to do such work, why would I want someone else to pay for what I'm capable of doing?"
What is nasty about that is that SHE can not do such work. SHE has no skills to do so. SHe has no money to do so so is asking for help. Did you even read what she wrote?
You asked for proof of what Frank the jerk wrote. I gave it to you. Now say it isn't nasty because Frank says "Ben" should just do it rather than Lyric asking for help and he has complained to the funding site to get her shut down.
Again, WTF? And your condescending "calm down" is not needed.
Sure.
Is it just like how you're not sure if it's okay to post untrue things about people? Is it all just so confusing?
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)Posting untrue thing about people is not good.
Posting others comments, that said something bad about you, without proof of such comments, is also bad.
Do you, or do you not, agree?
I'm an agreeable person who hates, loathes, despises, conflict. It's why I don't have a girlfriend. First argument and it's over. Calm down, look at things logically, then come back and TALK to me. I'm the same online or offline. I will discuss, I will not argue.
kcr
(15,317 posts)And you couldn't have showcased that more brilliantly in this thread. I mean, wow.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)That is not what I would call such a person.
canetoad
(17,167 posts)^^^ This.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)That's the perfect way to end this.
Lyric has enough to deal with right now without this.
Give if you want, don't if you don't, or can't, but I've read too much about this jerk to have doubted they'd do something like this.
Could you please send this to Lyric? It may help her with her go fund me problems thanks to this sick jerk.
On edit: Thanks for posting this!
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)on his place.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)I hope it helps her deal with them. Things have progressed a lot in the past decade on the internet. I'm sure go fund me has dealt with this type of mess before, and will know how to weigh the evidence.
Lyric
(12,675 posts)and would be taking my apparent stalking by them under consideration for any further "complaints" that might be filed.
Frankly I'm about to just ask everyone who wants to help to send it to my PayPal. PayPal is more private and much more difficult to stalk.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)I've only read the details of that horror show, so I may be mistaken. Ask around here first and see what those in the know say.
I'm so sorry you're having to deal with all this. You shouldn't be, but the sad fact is there are some really messed up people in the world who derive pleasure from hurting others.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I also like to verify.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)Excuse me, but my red flag has gone up.
MH1
(17,600 posts)I would hope so. Although I can't figure why someone would donate to a campaign and then leave a nasty message. But then there's a whole lot in this world I can't figure, and several people earlier in this thread seem to confirm that this is a known M.O. for a person who goes on the internet by the handle Frank Solich.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)Donate and say here's some money, or don't donate. Donating then leaving nasty messages makes no sense to me.
Prove the assertion. That's all I ask.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Perhaps you are you are unfamiliar with this troll?
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)there is nothing to indicate anyone is a troll.
Is it ok if I complain to DU admins msanthrope made disparaging comments without proof?
Money is at stake. Prove or disprove the assertion.
I've been in hard times recently. I don't part with a dollar unless I have to. No proof of assertion means something to me.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Absolutely...it is really okay with me if you wish to complain about me to the admins. Send them this thread.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)all I'm asking for is proof the of allegation. Too much to ask?
I'm not complaining about you. I admire your resolve. We're on the same side.
Would you part with hard earned money for something you had a doubt about? I won't. See my posts in poverty and working poor.
If I asked you for $100, would you send it to me without knowing what I needed it for or how it was to be used? Didn't think so. I wouldn't either.
A troll may be a troll, but he DID give her $10 when she was only asking for five.
Calm down and look at this logically instead of through a political lense.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)to publically doubt Lyric, rather than a polite PM.
For surely, you must be truly ignorant of the contribution Frank Solich made to the death of Andy Stephenson.....and the pain it causes here, to act in such a manner.
Delete your posts.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)And you still haven't answered the question I've asked twice.
Would it be ok if I complained to DU admins you made discouraging comments about me with no proof?
All I'm saying is, discouraging comments were supposedly made, with no proof of such comments.
I require proof. You may not.
I know nothing of frank solich and andy stephenson. I have no dog in that fight, and I won't retro-actively get into something with no background to the incident.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I will have this thread to refer to. Of course, Frank posted his nasty message on his own website....the full screenshot of his godundmedonation......you owe an apology to Lyric.
And this is tbe third freaking time I'm answering you.....PLEASE COMPLAIN TO ADMIN ABOUT ME. PLEASE. send them this thread.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)and you refuse to answer the question I've posed. Three times.
I need $100. Will you send it to me?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)to admin about me. Send them this thread.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)We're having a discussion. I take nothing personally. Honest, I don't.
Are you taking this personally? If so, log off, grab a glass of wine, and chill out. That's exactly what I'm going to do in just a few minutes.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)loved and respected here. Your reaction to that is pretty telling.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Now the poster is on my radar.
My radar was getting rather clear, what with the bannings and FFRs....
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Go take a look, do a search, but I won't link to them.
demmiblue
(36,863 posts)and got them fired.
This sounds exactly like something he would do.
Now he has found another home on Skinner's Discussionist.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)canetoad
(17,167 posts)And he spends his days trawling through DU until his brain bleeds, looking for posters to troll and harass on his cesspit. A GoFundMe request would really excite the maggot.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Grab his website, his computer, and the whoopee cushion that he farts himself to sleep with every night.
I suspect that is pretty much all he has in this world. Most definitely, dignity and respect, especially for the stricken, is nowhere on that list.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)has the powers of fedgov to grab computer equipment.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)And if you take away his Whoopee Cushion, that would make him even more bitter and stalkerish.
I am just kidding.
It's pretty much impossible to make the spelunkers any more bitter and stalkerish.
Stinky The Clown
(67,807 posts)Let's keep that as a St. Bob non sequitur for now.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)He gave you $10!
Just say "thank you" and move on.
Or send it back if his pert remark is so very devastating.
"I don't understand why these people hate me so much just because I am poor and disabled, and I need help."
Some people don't "hate" you.... They don't even know you....but they don't particularly like begging. Yet they will still give (money and the benefit of the doubt)....but it might come with a reminder (rude or not) to be sure to spend it on what you say you are gonna spend it on. Seems part of the territory if you're gonna solicit on line.
demmiblue
(36,863 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)No it isn't.
What I find unacceptable behavior is getting a $10 donation and complaining about it.
kcr
(15,317 posts)What kind of a person doesn't like begging. Goes into a thread about begging. Then that person donates to the beggar? Wouldn't that encourage begging? That doesn't make sense, does it?
See, I think it's more likely that it's a troll who's donating so that their nasty comment can appear on the donation site. Are you aware that trolls have actually had the campaign shut down on suspicion of fraud? They did it to another DUer who actually died as a result.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)He likes to write amateurish fan fiction like a teenage girl. Sometimes he writes some of it about me... Apparently we're all living rent free inside of his head. That's some really creepy shit, for sure.
He a tough talking, RWNJ troll who runs a site in which its express purpose is to demonstrate his own propensity for being the one of the biggest attention whores on the internet by stalking DU to no ends. I seriously doubt that he has a life outside of building up his own self-esteem at the expense of this idiotic troll member. That is, aside from all of the goat fucking that they do over there. All in all, the entire site is nothin more than a sparsely populated retreat for insufferable assholes.
It's not even worth the attention, in spite of the fact that he probably was the one who wrote that deplorable note to you. In spite of his nastiness, he''s nothing more than a pathetic coward. It's best to just ignore him, that'll hurt his feelings the most.
I've actually dealt with him on the D.I., but all he did was prove that he can't play well with others. Simply because he promptly had his membership cancelled for violating the TOS there. Boo-hoo.
Since all he and his moronically dipshit members are doing at any given time is stalking DU, I'm quite sure that he's seen this thread and they're all basking in the attention like pigs wallowing in shit. With the likelihood of that being the case, although it's against my better judgement, I think that it's a good time to show them one of these:
Fuck you, Frank.