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Jnew28

(931 posts)
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:41 AM Oct 2016

If You Think Trump’s Sex-Talk Recording Means This Election Is Over, Think Again

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"The point is, though, if none of these caused Trump to lose a significant amount of support before because he rose, and rose, and rose in the polls despite and sometimes seemingly because of these things, is this latest Trump pile of awful really that dramatically different from his others to the degree that it will cause him to lose a lot of support? I would venture a big fat no, despite my strong wish that this not be the case."

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If You Think Trump’s Sex-Talk Recording Means This Election Is Over, Think Again (Original Post) Jnew28 Oct 2016 OP
The difference now is the media nini Oct 2016 #1
Bill O' Reilly even turned on him as of today. Jnew28 Oct 2016 #6
Yep, the media calculated more ratings from a collapsing campaign... joshcryer Oct 2016 #16
Precisely. n/t Jnew28 Oct 2016 #24
In a nutshell! GreenPartyVoter Oct 2016 #27
I am seeing much more negative reports about him than before... Phentex Oct 2016 #30
It's over. His crap worked with the knuckle headed base in the primary but won't fly in the Trust Buster Oct 2016 #2
In a way, I agree, but the American electorate has a fast food mentality, which is a fear of mine. Jnew28 Oct 2016 #4
An interesting point was brought up on t.v. tonight. Most Americans don't follow politics closely Trust Buster Oct 2016 #8
Most don't, but the people who tend to vote are a "bit" more informed. Jnew28 Oct 2016 #25
Huh? malaise Oct 2016 #21
Sure, but the electorate is still dictated by media coverage... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #45
Trump's core deplorables are likely to saltpoint Oct 2016 #3
It's really electoral map that doesn't favor conservatives in the general. Jnew28 Oct 2016 #5
Agree. The Pukes promised themselves a saltpoint Oct 2016 #7
Their best chance to expand the party was under a centrist-right candidate, like McCain... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #9
True. Bill Kristol and a good handful of saltpoint Oct 2016 #10
The plan was presumably to offset Obama's youth and charisma with a younger, executive... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #11
: ) There was talk that Palin was saltpoint Oct 2016 #14
LOL... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #15
True. Andrew Johnson took to the saltpoint Oct 2016 #17
Yes he did!... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #22
Those crazy presidents! eom saltpoint Oct 2016 #28
If it were months out, I would say that it's not over...but barring some real qdouble Oct 2016 #12
A secret meeting with Putin would create major issues... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #13
It would have to be major TexasBushwhacker Oct 2016 #18
I know at least two people, possibly more. silverweb Oct 2016 #19
It's undoubtedly a false equivalency... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #23
Indeed. silverweb Oct 2016 #32
What's really hypocritical? JustAnotherGen Oct 2016 #26
A very good point! silverweb Oct 2016 #31
no similarities to what happened in primaries....this is the big show and words do matter beachbum bob Oct 2016 #20
Worst presidential candidate ever... n/t Jnew28 Oct 2016 #44
yes and no mnmoderatedem Oct 2016 #29
A purple heart? For what?... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #39
Stupid article written by a stupid person shared by a spambot Egnever Oct 2016 #34
Wow - what a compelling response... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #42
Wow you actually just did more than spam the board Egnever Oct 2016 #46
It wasn't sex talk. At all. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2016 #35
Rape talk is so funny!.... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #40
He's bleeding some support, and certainly not gaining anyone new. n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2016 #37
After the accusations today, it may in-fact be over. n/t Jnew28 Oct 2016 #43
But there's no need to become complacent - turnout still needs to be high in order to... Jnew28 Oct 2016 #41
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nini

(16,672 posts)
1. The difference now is the media
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:51 AM
Oct 2016

They are pretty much over him. They've made their money from the horse race they created and can just go after him now.

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
16. Yep, the media calculated more ratings from a collapsing campaign...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:26 AM
Oct 2016

... And less effort to mimic a horse race.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
30. I am seeing much more negative reports about him than before...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 09:50 AM
Oct 2016

I think there's been a tipping point.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
2. It's over. His crap worked with the knuckle headed base in the primary but won't fly in the
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:53 AM
Oct 2016

General. Women will not return to Trump. The country is getting sick and tired of the guy and so is the Republican Party for that matter. His donor money is drying up and Trump has gone totally Breitbart in desperation. I believe it's over for Trump.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
8. An interesting point was brought up on t.v. tonight. Most Americans don't follow politics closely
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:59 AM
Oct 2016

But, EVERYONE knows about that tape. Even Republican women and Christian groups are crossing over. In Trump's mind, he simply can't bear a loss on the world's largest stage. He will go totally Breitbart, implode and blame it on the Republicans and a rigged system.

 

Jnew28

(931 posts)
45. Sure, but the electorate is still dictated by media coverage...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 03:21 AM
Oct 2016

...if something else major comes out against Hillary, it "may" change the equation.

But after the two women that came forward, it may actually be over...

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
3. Trump's core deplorables are likely to
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:54 AM
Oct 2016

stick with him, yes, but there don't seem to be enough of them compared to the voters in demographic groups who can't stand him.

Trump's percentages of support are lower than Romney's, and Romney lost.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
7. Agree. The Pukes promised themselves a
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 12:57 AM
Oct 2016

women-and-minority outreach program after Romney bit the dust in 2012.

A half-hearted effort as made, and then abandoned, when the far right began to howl their objections.

Right now they appear to be far worse off in all the demographic groups they need just to match Romney's losing performance.

If Trump-Pence goes on to be trounced, the GOP has several problems to face. The first one is that they don't have any leader.

 

Jnew28

(931 posts)
9. Their best chance to expand the party was under a centrist-right candidate, like McCain...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:00 AM
Oct 2016

...But he chose Trump 1.0, which pushed out the intellectual core of the Republican Party.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
10. True. Bill Kristol and a good handful of
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:07 AM
Oct 2016

others told McCain, "Look, the demographics aren't good for you in this one. If you choose Lieberman, it's over. If you pick Palin, you at least stir up the base and give yourself a fighting chance."

Evidently Joe Lieberman was McCain's first choice. Pretty sure Lieberman would have jumped at the chance to bootlick on the Republican ticket.

Palin ruined it for McCain pretty much the first week after the convention. The McCain team must have huddled around in a tavern somewhere and said, "My god, she's a complete idiot." One of them might even have said, "Yeah, and we're the idiots who put her on this ticket."

 

Jnew28

(931 posts)
11. The plan was presumably to offset Obama's youth and charisma with a younger, executive...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:10 AM
Oct 2016

conservative female. But, they clearly didn't factor in intelligence as a crucial factor...

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
14. : ) There was talk that Palin was
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:14 AM
Oct 2016

vetted by a long-time GOP attorney stalwart, who thought the meeting was merely a kind of protocol introduction. The attorney assumed Palin had already been vetted by McCain's crew and reported that he liked her verve, and the McCain team reportedly told McCain that the attorney had vetted Palin.

"I thought you guys already vetted her!"

"O jeez, we thought you did!"

It was as bad a screwup as when Ben Carson lost his luggage!

 

Jnew28

(931 posts)
15. LOL...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:19 AM
Oct 2016

...arguably the worst vetting in American presidential history - well, 2nd to Andrew Johnson, who gave his first State of the Union smashed as all hell.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
17. True. Andrew Johnson took to the
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:27 AM
Oct 2016

firewater just before that inaugural. Franklin Pierce left office and more or less drank himself first to oblivion and then on to death.

It's a tough job, to be fair. Didn't Pierce, drunk, injure a woman when he lost control of his horse in a parade?

Then we have Dubya painting pictures of his toes in the bathtub.

America has often been a place where power and dysfunction meet. I think the modern-day GOP is a strong case in point.

qdouble

(891 posts)
12. If it were months out, I would say that it's not over...but barring some real
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:12 AM
Oct 2016

controversy on the Clinton side, I don't see anyway he can turn this around enough with less than a month to go.

Even worse for them, is that they have increased the enthusiasm on the Clinton side...if Trump continues his meltdown, it may be a blowout.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,220 posts)
18. It would have to be major
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:50 AM
Oct 2016

After the first debate debacle ("That makes me smart&quot , then the leak of his tax return with the BILLION DOLLAR LOSS, the momentum started to shift. Oh, and the Alicia Machado (Miss Universe) controversy. But the latest "Grab them by the pussy" seems to have sealed the deal. But it ain't over til it's over.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
19. I know at least two people, possibly more.
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 04:05 AM
Oct 2016

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Two people I happen to know very well are excusing Trump by saying (and I quote from one), "Everyone can hear worse things from rappers, even our children are exposed to everything immoral by songs, immoral dress, dance and even the way lady news women dress with dresses up to their &@#%3 and dresses down to their navels, Megan Kelly for instance, who dresses like a call girl. What lousy hypocrites!!"

So that makes Trump's behavior okay? And rappers and news commentators are running for president now? And "immoral" songs, dress, and dance are equivalent to sexual assault?

The same person thinks it would be just fine to have a President Trump represent the people of the United States. This is a church-attending, devout Catholic, no less, who can't stand Pope Francis but loved his severe, unforgiving predecessor.

I happen to know for a fact that this individual's real reason is bitter, angry hatred for minorities, immigrants, and especially the poor who need government assistance "from my taxes!" And all things liberal, especially the Clintons and Obamas. The others I referred to share the same opinion.

Talk about mind-blowing "lousy hypocrites"!

 

Jnew28

(931 posts)
23. It's undoubtedly a false equivalency...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:31 AM
Oct 2016

...to say that bragging about womanizing and potentially degrading sexual positions, because it still doesn't fall to the level of Donald Trump's "rapey rhetoric."

JustAnotherGen

(31,924 posts)
26. What's really hypocritical?
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:51 AM
Oct 2016

They let Melania off the hook.

If they are attacking women for the way they dress - then they should be dropping him because of . . .

Hypocrites of the highest order.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
31. A very good point!
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 01:03 PM
Oct 2016

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I rather forgot about Melania while I was typing that.

mnmoderatedem

(3,729 posts)
29. yes and no
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 09:47 AM
Oct 2016

yes, he's had numerous gaffes in the past that would have been disqualifiers for anyone else, particularily Hillary, no in the sense that this incident seems to be more damaging to his campaign than anything prior.

I still can't believe the little coward accepted a Purple Heart he had no business accepting without any campaign ramifications. Imagine if Hillary had done THAT.
 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
46. Wow you actually just did more than spam the board
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 02:42 PM
Oct 2016

Color me shocked.. How many months now have you just been spamming us with your ridiculous stupid party links ...

As far as the content well it's so ridiculous I can't be bothered. Standard click bait nonsense from you.

 

Jnew28

(931 posts)
41. But there's no need to become complacent - turnout still needs to be high in order to...
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 08:02 PM
Oct 2016

...obtain the Senate.

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