S.E. Cupp one of two to replace Dylan Ratigan?

[madashelltoo]

MSNBC must really want to lose viewers. She is as fake as they come. The whole librarian look, the laugh, the comment (both with and without merit) delivery . . . uh, I don't know. Ratigan got on my nerves at times, but I will be busy in that time slot now for sure. She will be taking Martin's spot and Martin will be moving into Dylan's. There is always housework.

[spanone]

1. frees up an hour of teevee time for me.

[southernyankeebelle]

9. For me too. I was hoping they'd give Bahir 2 hrs.

[DearAbby]

2. I wont watch her

I dislike her style.

[theaocp]

3. She's gonna be drinking a tall cup of fail.

I said it in the other thread on this clown: conservatives already have a network for them. CNN certainly hasn't learned anything about this and has ratings to show for their efforts to emulate Fox. MSNBC wants to try and bring in one of the two viewers who give half-a-shit about this woman and what she has to spew? Whatever. If she hangs on, it'll be because of stunts like this:

[Jamaal510]

50. Speaking of S.E. Cupp legs, I've always wondered...

why are there always a mother load of YouTube clips from Fox News of people's legs? Are all their viewers perverts or something?

[Rectangle]

63. when I see S.E.Cuppthis comes to mind :

[seabeyond]

4. now YOU are going to pornify her? because she is attractive and wears glasses = librarian

think?

why the fuck not just talk about the fuckin issues instead of bringing in this crap. oh wait... i know why. so you can others can fuckin giggle....

[madashelltoo]

13. Yeah, I'm giggling.

I'm a woman and I know when another woman is playing to her feminine strengths. Sorry to have so thoroughly upset you, but it is what it is. The fucking issue is this, Cupp, in her faux personae is going to twist every issue and I refuse to watch her.

[seabeyond]

14. "going to twist every issue and I refuse to watch her." no. that is not the issue. you diverted

the issue to her being porn. good fuckin job. what a woman

[madashelltoo]

16. Oh, you think I'm pornifying her because she wears glasses

and gives off the persona of a librarian. No, I'm not pornifying her. I'm calling her a fake. I believe everybody, women too, should be whomever you are. If you are beautiful, be that. I never made a comment about her beauty. I never commented on her clothing, or said she was sexy. I said she's a fake.

[seabeyond]

18. then say she is fake, connecting her wearing glasses to librarian porn, is.... connecting

her wearing glasses to playing porn.

i didnt make it up. you put it in your post.

good looking and wearing glasses... fake = porn

[madashelltoo]

19. Okay . . . it's time to end this because

I have no idea what you're talking about. Peace

[Hassin Bin Sober]

26. Librarian porn? WTF are you talking about?

Listen to yourself.

[seabeyond]

28. it is in the op, dont know why you are on my ass.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

30. Jesus christ on a trailer hitch the OP said NOTHING about porn.

She (the op) said librarian, as in FAKE librarian.

[zappaman]

41. Some people just see porn everywhere

[dmr]

32. Am I missing something? I don't see where she made a porn connection.

I hate sexism too, but I don't see what you're seeing.

What I do think, though, is Ms. Cupp uses her sexuality to her advantage. When you're lying or tweaking the facts I guess a gimmick is good to have to keep some viewers (men) from changing the channel.

I agree with the OP, I'll be doing other things at 3pm, just like I do at 5 & 7.

[WolverineDG]

48. "librarian look" now equals "librarian porn?"

The only one inserting porn into this post is YOU.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

35. The word porn never appears in the OP

Do you even realize how badly you transfer and project now?

You don't have to answer.

[msanthrope]

21. Pornify her?

Did you see this link?

If anybody is pornifying Ms. Cupp, it is Ms. Cupp.

Which does not justify disgusting behavior towards her....but one can hardly be surprised when she is taken less seriously than other journalists when she comports herself so.

[seabeyond]

23. yes, fox news did. she ollowed their instruction. we know fox. and the OP did too.

why pretend otherwise. and because fox is a piece of shit we are too?

[msanthrope]

24. While Fox News is slimy, I do not think the 'legs-on-desk' schtick is anything other than Ms. Cupp's

invention.

If you have any evidence that SE Cupp was directed to sit in such a manner by Fox News, I would love for you to post it.

[seabeyond]

27. at the end of the video she made a comment that sounded as if fox told her to

watch the video....

[msanthrope]

33. She says nothing of the kind, seabeyond....kindly post what you claim is

evidence that Ms. Cupp was forced to put her legs on a desk by Fox News.

FYI--there's plenty of other videos of her engaging in said behavior. She does not look forced, or otherwise coerced.

Sometimes women engage in sexist behavior because they think it is advantageous to do so.

[RoseMead]

44. The OP did not.

I went back and re-read it twice. Nothing in there about porn at all. You owe the OP an apology.

[RainDog]

66. crickets

incredible, huh?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

37. The issue is she's a right-wing liar and a fraud who has no business on MSNBC

But you don't really care about that, do you?

[2ndAmForComputers]

59. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

It is impossible to accurately describe that post without getting this post hidden. Any correct assessment would be a personal attack, while still being a correct assessment.

[ohheckyeah]

65. Huh?

How does librarian equal porn? The OP doesn't use the word porn.

[asjr]

5. I didn't like Ratigan but I will

very much dislike S.E. It makes me realize the media much prefer to pump up the Reptilian party than the Democratic party.

[swayne]

6. They are pushing her as an "acceptable" Ann Coulter and that won't work.

GEMSNBC/Comcast is pining for a new conservative star and they'll be in the same predicament as CNN.

S.E. Kook is not what they need.

[Dawson Leery]

7. Here is a list of potential (highly qualified) candidates:

http://jdvanlaningham.blogspot.com/2012/06/dylan-ratigans-replacement.html

[KharmaTrain]

8. She's Co-Hosting...

The show is a rotation of MSNBC "contributors"...I'll bet we see Ron Christy, Mikey Steele and other rushpublican talking heads show on the show as well...but looks like they'll be teamed with a liberal/moderate stenographer. I expect we'll see folks like Karen Finney, Ezra Klein and others who will (or should) keep the wingnuts and their talking points in check.

I like the move of Martin Bashir to right before Tweetyball...I wasn't a big Ratigan fan and used to turn on something else during that hour.

[magnifisense]

20. They are going to team them up?

Isn't that the old Crossfire approach? I think MSNBC tried it a few years ago with Tucker Carlson as the conservative voice. It didn't last long, as I recall.

[KharmaTrain]

34. "Rotating Hosts"

Notice the word is plural...so I suspect it will be a roundtable hour of psychobabble...cable teevee's stock in trade. Looks more like a move to fill the hour and see what evolves...they're paying these people so they might as well get their money's worth.

I sure do remember Crossfire and the show lasted for over 20 years. But then rushpublicans weren't anywhere near as obnoxious and most of those years were before faux and 24/7 right wing talking points all over the teevee and radio. In the end Novak (who ended up owning a piece of the show) and Bowtie boy Carlson destroyed it by making it a platform for neo-cons...as Jon Stewart pointed out, the show had become a parody of itself.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

39. Rotating hosts with rotating heads

If Christie and Steele get free rein with their own shows we're liable to see green phlegm coming out of their mouths before long. Psychobabble is right.

[swayne]

10. I would appreciate if MSNBC would take this opportunity to make a "Crossfire" program

If that is what they are trying to do, then I say yes. Otherwise, forget it.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

11. She's very physically attractive, no doubt about it

and her delivery is not as obnoxious as most right wingers. But her ideas suck and her debate skills aren't very effective. If I want to look at beautiful women there are plenty of other places to do it. I don't like the notion that a network thinks they can lure me as a viewer just because of a pretty face, if that's the idea behind this move. Maybe that's the Faux model but I don't want that out of MSNBC. I want substance and, so far, having seen her weak performances on Alex Wagner's show, Bill Maher's, and several others, I don't see very much of that.

[LiberalFighter]

43. She is very weak. I agree.

[jenmito]

12. Who's the other possibility? You say she's "one of two..." No link? n/t

[hrmjustin]

15. She is annoying! why her?

[SoCalDem]

17. why? gotta prop up the GOP

I have pretty much deleted MSNBC from my DVR.. too many right wingers on these days..

Seems as if no show on can avoid being infected by Michael Steele et al..

[magnifisense]

22. MSNBC jumped the shark whey they let Keith go.

Rachel is great, but Keith really was the "lead." I miss his passion.

[JoePhilly]

25. Sippy Cupp is a right wing shill, nothing more.

And if I wanted to listen to endless RW talking points, I'd watch Fox, they do a better job of it.

[KamaAina]

29. Sippy Cupp!!

[JoePhilly]

31. Stephanie Miller calls her that ...

Stephanie has had to debate "Sippy Cupp" on CNN from time to time, and she says that the best way to make Sippy Cupp go nuts is to call the Tea Party members "Teabaggers" ... she hates it.

[LadyHawkAZ]

56. Sippy Cupp... That is just beautiful!

[Whisp]

58. I love Stephanie :)

She is so funny and can hit some real zingers with her wit.

She's on Current TV now? I don't get that channel and I don't watch CNN anymore - that's where I would see her once in a while as a guest commentator.

Sippy Cupp.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

36. Careful now....

S.E. F'Dupp is beloved around here by certain people for her victimhood, regardless of how totally obnoxious she is, and how much she goes against everything they themselves claim to stand for. She'll take a tax break over her own rights in a heartbeat.

[bigdarryl]

38. It's time to give CURRENT TV a serious look now that this has happened

FUCK MSNBC there trying to get the FIXED NEWS viewers

[RainDog]

67. why not stop paying for cable news to pipe propaganda into your home?

I've done without cable tv for a while - unless you're a huge sports fan, it's no big loss, to tell you the truth.

but I don't watch a lot of tv shows. the ones I want to watch are, generally, available the next day and it costs much less to pay for what I want to watch rather than what a cable company wants to put into a bundle.

HBO may soon split from cable co. packages b/c the demographic for many of their shows is giving up cable for internet tv. I hope they do - but if they don't, I'll just watch shows when they're released on DVD.

[jp11]

40. She is noted as 1 of 5 possible 'co-hosts' in the only tiny article theorizing what may happen.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/06/msnbc-to-test-toure-at-pm-sources-126414.html

I personally hate when she is on more than Michael Steele as I find she makes more snide comments while grinning like an idiot about how clever she is with whatever RW talking point she is pushing. I also see fewer pundits on with her putting her crap down or correcting her, I feel they are letting her off easier than say Michael Steele would be if he had said the same thing.

I also on a more personal level find her disingenuous based on her claims she is an 'atheist' who 'aspires to be a person of faith'. Basically when I first saw her appear on my TV she claimed to be an atheist and would still take up the republican religion side on issues then toss in 'But I'm an atheist' as if to make her point MORE valid.

I truly hope MSNBC doesn't go further down the road with more shows that try to sustain the 'both sides do it' or some semblance of 'fair and balanced' by bringing in more republican/conservatives to give their spin on things. If people wanted that crap they'd be watching CNN.

MSNBC has one show where the republican viewpoint gets to be droned on to us and it happens in the morning with Joe it REALLY REALLY doesn't need another one. Ratigan wasn't perfect and often failed to correct many 'both sides do it' BS or even propagated it but I felt he was more neutral MOST of the time. When he was spouting that crap there was USUALLY some call for it to be true like money in politics although the truth would be to point out how more pervasive it is on the republican side yet he didn't say so.

[LiberalFighter]

42. I will not watch Sarah E Cupp. She is one.

We need to tweet bomb the hell out of her show so MSNBC cancel her fast.

[flamingdem]

46. Good idea. They need to know we'll boicot

yeeech

And hasn't anyone seen that library porn ad they run 24/7 about library books?

[jillan]

45. I was hoping they would give that spot to Karen Finney. I love her.

She is sharp and not afraid to say what we are all thinking.
She is also good at moving a conversation to what she wants discussed.

For those of you that saw her on Bill Maher, you will know what I mean. At the end, she nailed it about racism.

[flamingdem]

47. How about the brilliant Chris Hayes as another alternative

I guess he's a bit too serious for the fluffy time slot.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

51. My vote would go to Joy Ann Reid

I'm a big fan and I always love to hear her take on the issues. I think she's terrific.

[ecstatic]

54. +1. I love her insight! nt

[flamingdem]

55. agree, lately I really like her

nt

[footinmouth]

53. From MSNBC

MSNBC host Dylan Ratigan introduces Toure, Krystal Ball, Steve Kornacki, and S.E. Cupp as the new co-hosts for the upcoming MSNBC show The Cycle, premiering next week at 3 p.m.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31510813/

[calimary]

60. Well, they're never going to reconsider that by reading through here.

NEVER forget: If they think you don't care, they won't, either. Here's one place where you can let them know you DO care:

http://thecycle.msnbc.msn.com

There's a write-up on the whole show, and then, scrolling down, there are brief profiles of each of the four apparent co-hosts. You can comment under each one.

http://thecycle.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/22/12359283-meet-the-cycle-co-host-se-cupp#comments


Here's what I posted:

Good Heavens, WHY? Someone with S.E. Cupp's slant has NO business being a cohost on MSNBC! What are you people thinking??? The fact that we already have to suffer the likes of Scarborough and Chuck Todd is bad enough. Cupp is agonizingly miscast. It's not just her wrong-headed politics. Her smug superiority complex makes her utterly unwatchable.
Why couldn't Martin Bashir get two hours? Intelligence, sophistication, gloriously literate, a touch of humility, elegance, and we know he's on our side - because he has brains and a conscience and both of those elements tend to lead toward progressive thinking. I don't come to MSNBC to find out what conservatives are thinking. I come to MSNBC to GET AWAY from (and see debunked) what conservatives are thinking. I don't even want 'em around as sacrificial goats or punching bags, for that matter. I'm sure there's plenty of room for Cupp's shtick at Fox "News".
Please. Please understand. I don't come to MSNBC for "balance," at least not the kind of "fair and balanced (to one side)" perversion of the word "balance" now in common usage. I come to MSNBC to get the liberal point of view. The Democratic point of view. MY point of view. If I wanted "Devil's Advocacy," I'd go where the Devil is. I come to MSNBC to see coverage and commentary by intelligent, prominent, well-informed, well-connected, and circumspect people who share MY views. I will be doing something else during this hour. Too bad. I kinda like Krystal Ball.

[Laelth]

61. Nicely said. n/t

-Laelth

[watchdogg]

62. Ratigan impossible to replace

Dylan was the only good one on MSNBC (not counting Chris Hayes on weekends). SE Cupp is just an entertainer, not a conservative.

[Cass]

64. I sure as hell won't be watching, can't stand her. Why can't they give Ron Reagan a show??

Now him I would watch.