Has Julian #Assange had his internet cut off due to claims of online sexual grooming?

[Scurrilous]

Case pending. #Wikileaks #auspol

https://twitter.com/SandraEckersley/status/787918450547044354



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Found this on Wonkette... No other information.

[Zoonart]

1. WOW

Assange and Trump- Birds of a feather?

[msanthrope]

10. More like Assange and Scott Ritter, if page 2 of that statement is to be believed. nt

[yardwork]

45. Who is they and what damage?

I don't see that the leaks are causing any damage to Hillary, if that's what you mean.

[TampaAnimusVortex]

60. That's beside the point.

Rather his leaks are causing harm means nothing. If some parties think that even the possibility they might cause harm, then they have an interest in creating some way of discrediting him. Again, if you dont think the timing on this is suspicious, then its willful blindness.

[6000eliot]

69. The fact that he appears to get his marching orders from Putin discredits him enough.

[Foggyhill]

53. Right... claim of entrapment again...

unless Assange has no friends, or doesn't know how to schedule automated twitter posts if he's not there to stop them, it would drop anyway.

Maybe he's just a human asswipe; people in the embassy would know more about that and maybe that's why he got cut out

[TampaAnimusVortex]

58. Whos claiming entrapment?

I'm saying that there are a number of vested parties who would have an interest in discrediting Julian, and would invent material if needed. If you can't see that, then its willful blindness.

[Foggyhill]

70. So, again fabrication... well ok, i know where you stand

[chillfactor]

77. you really need a shot of reality....

what are you doing on DU anyway....you sound like a troll.

[TampaAnimusVortex]

84. Easier to call names than produce any real facts?

Much like the company attesting against Julian seems to be delisted because of integrity measures? Nice resources your counting on there... Good work.
https://www.unglobalcompact.org/what-is-gc/participants/83761-T-C-Network-Solutions

https://wikileaks.org/IMG/pdf/final_report_t_c_17_oct_2016-2.pdf

[joshcryer]

61. This has been known for weeks.

But it went under the radar because if how crazy it sounds. If Ecuador verified the police report it would have taken a couple it weeks to do that.

[TampaAnimusVortex]

65. Wikileaks has been releasing data for a lot longer than that.

Again, there's a lot of people that would do just about anything to bring down Julian - even on this site.

[joshcryer]

67. That's precisely why I believe he would do something like this.

[msanthrope]

2. Follow the twitter link to page 2......Taking a chapter from Scott Ritter. nt

[msanthrope]

3. page 2 details the video they have of Assange. nt

[msanthrope]

4. MORE HERE. ...

http://www.prweb.com/releases/united-nations-report/julian-assange-wikileaks/prweb13750603.htm

[Scurrilous]

5. Thanks.

[msanthrope]

12. Oh....trying to supplement as I find info. nt

[jberryhill]

27. There's something a little odd about all this

It seems a bit strange that the company goes on about "UN regulations" arising from participation in the entirely voluntary UN Global Compact program which is primarily about ecological sustainability, and has no "regulations". This outfit "joined" in May (all it takes is saying "yeah, we support this", and was de-listed a few days ago. I imagine the de-listing has a lot to do with them touting things like "UN Member" in their press releases:

https://www.unglobalcompact.org/what-is-gc/participants/83761-T-C-Network-Solutions

Overview


T&C Network Solutions
www.toddandclare.com


Participant Since
06 May 2016
Delisted on: 2016-10-12

Country:
United States of America
Org. Type:
SME
Sector:
Software & Computer Services
Global Compact Status:
Delisted
Reason for Delisting:
Other reason related to the Integrity Measures

[Warpy]

79. prweb.com looks a little dodgy to me, also

with their odd articles about marketing the news like a commodity

[jberryhill]

80. It's a cut rate press release site

It's pretty popoular with carnival barkers.

But it is not any sort of "news" site.

[Warpy]

81. That was my impression

I'd take their stories with a pound of salt.

[msanthrope]

6. EVEN MORE HERE!!!!

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ruXBSKQHQtYJ:https://www.unglobalcompact.org/system/attachments/cop_2016/322211/original/ToddandClare.com_United_Nations_GC_Member_Report_COP_1042016.pdf%3F1475591336+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[msanthrope]

7. HOLY SHIT.....IT INVOLVES NOAM CHOMSKY!!!!

Not in sex allegations......but holy shit!!!

[Avalux]

21. I don't have time to read it - can you explain the Chomsky connection? Thanks! n/t

[msanthrope]

22. No. I provided the link, I will let DUers read it for themselves

and draw their own, unbiased conclusions as to Chomsky's role.

[jberryhill]

28. I'm trying to understand the context of this "report"

The UN Global Compact is a kind of a "feel good" initiative with no "regulations" or binding commitments.

This organization sent in these allegations against a variety of people as their "statement of support" for the UN Global Compact, so that it would get posted on the UN site.

Then, they sent out press releases referring to it as a "UN Report" and giving the URL of the posting on the UN site, to convey the impression that their "statement of support" was some sort of official report from the UN. While they don't say that expressly, they use language which appears calculated to convey that impression.

This is not an opinion on the truth or falsity of anything in their document, but the way they've gone about this seems a little strange.

It seems like they joined a few months ago primarily for the purpose of getting this statement posted on the UN Global Compact site, so that they could then convey the impression that this was some sort of "UN Report". It also appears that the UN Global Compact de-listed them for this reason.

Again, this has nothing to do with the truth or falsity of their allegations, but it also seems that they were primarily interested in getting these allegations posted on site run by an organization with diplomatic immunity, and then publicizing it - in other words using the UNGC program for purposes having no discernible relation to the purpose of the UNGC program.

Why?

[msanthrope]

36. I think the context is a business that made a very bad business decision.

At this point we don't have enough information regarding the pedophilia allegations, but they are serious enough that they should be investigated. I can't decide if this is merely confusing, inept, or dodgy.

[jberryhill]

38. That's not the "context" I'm talking about

Leaving the substance aside, this is very odd behavior:

1. A dating site joins a voluntary campaign which is primarily focused on promoting sustainability and other lofty goals.

2. As their "statement of commitment", they post a bunch of accusations against someone, which is posted on the site. Their statement refers to non-existent "duty" and "regulations" of the voluntary campaign.

3. Then, they put out press releases calling it a "UN Report" for the apparent purpose of suggesting some sort of endorsement or authorization of their "statement of commitment" letter.

The behavior does not appear to be "inept". It appears to be deliberately abusive of what the UNGC campaign is about, and it appears to be designed to convey a false impression.

Again, that has nothing to do with the substance of the underlying allegations, but there is something odd about the behavior pursued by ToddandClare.com here.

[msanthrope]

39. Oh....definitely something odd is up.

I suspect that none of the adults involved have particularly Clean Hands... I just worry that there is an actual pedophile victim.

I'd like to hear more from everybody involved... Particularly the UN

[jberryhill]

40. What does the UN have to do with it?

Someone signed up for their program to promote sustainability, posted an accusatory screed as their commitment statement, and was de-listed for using the UN site to post stuff on.

[msanthrope]

43. Well.....if he's a pedo...someone has egg on their face.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/2016/mar/24/uk-seeks-review-un-julian-assange-arbitrary-detention?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

[joshcryer]

55. No they signed up and paid their dues back in May.

Then several months later the police in the Bahamas got involved and they announced their commitment to the integrity the process and outed Assange's behavior.

[joshcryer]

57. The site was probably a gimmick.

To be able to claim to be the first dating site that fulfilled UNGC requirements, whatever those are. The question is if the police reports are real, which I have no reason to disbelieve.

Assange, a known sexual deviant and rapist, hold up in a tiny room for years, could completely believably try to use his social engineering expertise to groom a child.

Because who would believe it? That's how predators operate. From Cosby to Trump.

[msanthrope]

59. Don't know....they scrubbed social media, as they said they would to protect

female employees....but have an Amazon presence.

[joshcryer]

62. Wikileaks tweeted about it when it first came to light.

Sending their attack dogs.

But, if there's a police report, Ecuador would find out. Common sense says to shut off the internet if s devient being accused.

[msanthrope]

64. That's my feeling on it. I have a lot of questions. Lot of skepticism.

But Ecuador has so far backed this as swipe 100 percent. Why not now?

[joshcryer]

66. He's a fucking pain in their ass.

They've handed over drug lords before, they have a price. But the US genuinely doesn't want him. If allegations are real (which I have one reason as yet to disbelieve), it could well be their way out.

I think a two week turn around from the allegations being made to his net being shut off is reasonable. Presumably it's an ongoing investigation, and Todd and Clare released what they knew in retaliation for being dumped by the UN (they originally went after Assange over the rape charges, then followed up with the grooming).

[msanthrope]

68. He is a stone in their shoe.

Mr Swire's response, according to a source who was in the room, was: "Not my stone, not my shoe." https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ios-exclusive-someones-leaving-ecuadors-embassy-but-its-not-julian-assange-8650773.html%3famp?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

[joshcryer]

72. Remember when his desk was "accidently damaged"?

I posit he has anger issues fueled by his sexual frustrations and megalomania.

[msanthrope]

73. even better... Remember the night apparently somebody scaled the garden?

Ordered a drone strike? So many substance fueled excuses, so little time.

[joshcryer]

75. They just released their rebuttal.

So much crazy.

Maybe Ecuador got tricked or are erring on the side of caution.

Either way it's funny to see Wikileaks do damage control over conspiracies. If not outright fabricating bullshit to obfuscate.

[joshcryer]

52. They had already been approved before outing Assange.

They did not, as far as I can tell on my phone, user the allegations to get approval. What happened was they out about Assange's behavior and, as is their duty, reported on it, demanding his disassociation from the campaign.

[jberryhill]

54. What "duty"?

Have you taken a look at what the UNGC is about?

Can you point me at this "duty" or "regulations" they are talking about?

[joshcryer]

56. No clue, research while I lay on my back, hung over...

... On my phone, isn't exactly easy. But the compact apparently requires dues to be paid.

You would think that if some of be associated with the campaign was grooming it would be their duty to report it.

[jberryhill]

83. There are like 9000 companies in the UNGC

No, it's not a platform for trading accusations about companies, and doesn't have any "regulations" or "duties".

It's a place for companies like Volkswagen to post their commitment to sound environmental policies.

It's not a place for an organization to post accusations against others as their "statement of commitment". They sent that thing in under false pretenses (i.e. That it was one of the normal "statements of commitment" which describes their sustainability policies) and then flacked the shit out it being a "UN Report" through a hinky press release website.

Wells Fargo is a member in good standing. Come on.

[blogslut]

23. It has to do with an anti-rape organization the Mr. Chomsky supports.

Assange was attempting to be a spokesperson for the organization.

[joshcryer]

49. The dating site in question was a feminist run approach.

It seems Assange was using the site and somehow started communicating with a sister of someone who was using it for dating purposes.

Feminists associated with the site, after the grooming was revealed, started getting MRA fuled death threats and harassment and sickeningly had to scrub their association with the site.

The fucked up part about this is that it's 100% believable, that Assange, a hacker and someone with social engineering expertise would actually get off on a sick and twisted grooming experience, knowing full and well that if he got caught he could pass it off as a conspiracy. In fact, there was an article recently in the LA times about one of Assange's early essays where he highlights the effectiveness of conspiracy as a propaganda method.

I'll note I called it first on DU.

[msanthrope]

8. If threatening American female employees of ToddandClare is true, that fucker should fear

extradition.

[msanthrope]

9. More here, on toddandclare.com.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/united-nations-delists-toddandclare-coms-un-membership-publication-131200231.html

[randome]

11. Trying to make sense of this.

ToddandClare.com was de-listed by the UN because it disparaged Assange? (With good reason, it sounds like.)
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[msanthrope]

13. Yes.......sounds like delist came before investigation was made public.

If there is an actual Bahamas investigation, then UN has some explaining to do.

[randome]

14. So do you think this is why Assange's Internet access was cut? And not because of Wikileaks?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[msanthrope]

15. I think this explains why Ecuador has kept quite silent on the matter.

If this is true, Assange really should avoid going out on the balcony..... one of the Ecuadorian Embassy employees might just give him a shove off.... granted it's only a bit above the garden. I'm not advocating violence against this man... Only that he face Justice.

[randome]

17. You and me, both.

To think that he has gone to this epic amount of trouble simply because of his ego. He is a different 'flavor' of Trump but they are both in the same palette family.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[joshcryer]

51. Ecuador is cracking down on sex trafficking.

My original position was that they cut him off because to allow it to escalate would put their reasons for asylum on more shakey ground.

[Blue_Tires]

16. epic kick

[Scurrilous]

18. It looks like the 'state actor' was Ecuador.

Wikileaks Claims Ecuador Cut Assange's Internet After Clinton Leak

<snip>

"Is Julian Assange’s five-year stay at the Ecuadorian embassy in London about to come to an abrupt end? Wikileaks claimed its leader had his internet access cut by Ecuador on Saturday 5pm GMT, shortly after it released more of Hillary Clinton’s private paid speeches to Goldman Sachs.

WikiLeaksVerified account
‏@wikileaks

We can confirm Ecuador cut off Assange's internet access Saturday, 5pm GMT, shortly after publication of Clinton's Goldman Sachs speechs.

Wikileaks made the claim over Twitter this afternoon. Earlier in the day, it had noted that an unnamed “state party” had “intentionally severed” Assange’s internet connection.

A spokesperson at the Ecuadorian embassy told FORBES it could not comment. They requested your reporter call again at 10am London time. When I asked if there was a special event happening then, they declined to comment."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2016/10/17/ecuador-kills-assange-internet-after-clinton-release/#3285ed106943

I wonder what they might cut off next?

[Scurrilous]

19. Ecuador cuts Julian Assange's internet access: WikiLeaks

<snip>

"Anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks said on Monday that its founder Julian Assange's internet was shut down by the government of Ecuador, deflecting blame from the U.S. or British governments who have sparred with Assange for releasing sensitive material.

"We can confirm Ecuador cut off Assange's internet access Saturday, 5pm GMT, shortly after publication of (Hillary) Clinton's Goldman Sachs speechs (sic)," the statement from WikiLeaks said.

Assange has lived and worked in Ecuador's London embassy since June 2012, having been granted asylum there after a British court ordered him extradited to Sweden to face questioning in a sexual molestation case involving two female WikiLeaks supporters.

WikiLeaks said Assange lost internet connectivity on Sunday night."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-wikileaks-idUSKBN12H2E9

[msanthrope]

20. I'm guessing Assange has out stayed his welcome. nt

[csziggy]

31. Well that old saying is right

[treestar]

82. You'd think he himself would be bored to death by now

a prison has more space and more room and a chance to go outside.

[Codeine]

24. K&R nt

[greatauntoftriplets]

25. What a creep.

[PunksMom]

26. Karma to all the creeps

It's happening.

[riversedge]

29. I read lots of this earlier today but not from Wonkette. Think it was Daily Kos.

[Scurrilous]

30. I got the twitter link in the OP from a post on Wonkette.

There wasn't an article...just a post buried in one of the threads.

BTW...the DKos article has just been posted in GD: 2016. It has some good comments:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512518979

Should be very interesting to see how this plays out.

What kills me about this is how Assange, most likely knowing it was Ecuador who cut off his internet, instead blamed a 'state player.'

The duplicitous creep was trying to deflect responsibility.

[riversedge]

32. Ok thanks for clearingup my memory. But wouldn't Ecuador qualify as a state player??

[Scurrilous]

34. Yes.

But the use of the ambiguous 'state player,' left the door open for most of the initial speculation as to who was to blame to focus on the US (John Kerry was in London at the time).

[karynnj]

47. The Kerry was in London stuff is beyond stupid

First off - it was first on twitter from Roger Stone, who is as dirty as one could get ... and he later pushed it with Alex Jones. Talk about bottom of the barrel sleaze!

Kerry was in London - and it was on his public schedule. He was working with various allied FMs to try to get a Yemen ceasefire and to figure out if anything could be done to make Syria better. He was there for one day and had various meetings on the side as well. Needless to say, anywhere he would have gone would have been with enough security that people would have known someone important was there.

Not to mention - What exactly would JK PERSONALLY have done in London to end Assange's internet? Unplugged a cable? Even Britain would have trouble disconnecting Assange without disconnecting the embassy.

The alt right has gone completely insane on this. The Obama administration has worked hard in recent years to try to improve relations with South America. Kerry also met with Maduro on the sidelines in Colombia and Obama/Kerry were very supportive of the peace effort for Colombia. Last summer, the administration responded quickly with aid when there was an earthquake.

Here, I assume that wikileaks like the importance that it gives them to put out that "many US sources" unidentified say JK pressured Ecuador -- when all they know is that he spoke with his peer from that country --as well as many other countries -- in private meetings. This was so secret that the State Department listed it with his other meetings.

[sarcasmo]

33. Kick to the top.

[ismnotwasm]

35. So disgusting

And unsurprising.

[geek tragedy]

37. explains the sympathy for Trump nt

[struggle4progress]

41. Mystery swirls around Assange's status at Ecuadorean Embassy

By RAPHAEL SATTER
Oct. 18, 2016 12:22 PM EDT

... Julian Assange says his hosts at the Ecuadorean Embassy in London abruptly cut him off from the internet ...

"While our concerns about Wikileaks are longstanding, any suggestion that Secretary Kerry or the State Department were involved in shutting down Wikileaks is false," U.S. State Department spokesman John Kirby said in an email. "Reports that Secretary Kerry had conversations with Ecuadorian officials about this are simply untrue. Period" ...

WikiLeaks staffers Kristinn Hrafnsson and Sarah Harrison did not return repeated messages seeking comment. Staff at the embassy declined comment. Ecuador's Foreign Minister Guillaume Long, approached by The Associated Press on the sidelines of a United Nations conference in Quito on Monday, declined to comment when asked about Assange. His office later released a terse statement in response to "the speculation of the last few hours" reaffirming Assange's asylum status ...

Assange has carved out a life at Hans Crescent, dining on delivered food, welcoming famous well-wishers and even occasionally addressing the media from the embassy's balcony. But evidence of tension and mutual suspicion with his hosts surfaced after BuzzFeed News drew on confidential Ecuadorean government documents to detail a violent, after-hours confrontation between Assange and an Ecuadorean security guard in September 2012 ...

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor

[Maven]

42. Wikileaks now claiming that a "front" has fed this story to the "Democratic media" to discredit

Assange.

[msanthrope]

48. Which front?

https://m.

[joshcryer]

63. Assange to fight extradition to the Bahamas next.

[randome]

74. "Everyone's out to get me!" That's starting to ring true.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[joshcryer]

71. The desperation in that tweet is palpable.

It comes off as Trump-esque rambling. They don't have a clear answer why the net has been cut, you can tell.

[randome]

46. The end of the Assange Saga. The end of Trump. The end of the GOP. The end of Roger Ailes.

The end of the Bundy Bunch. Are all these things related? Collectively, we are seeing the Berlin Wall being torn down.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[Blue_Tires]

76. LOL it wouldn't surprise me

[Warpy]

78. Highly unlikely

More like the US diplomats talked to the Ecuadorean diplomats about Wikileaks being used as a conduit for Russian propaganda designed to affect the US election.

Truth is usually a lot more boring than Twitter.

[B2G]

86. And they could have made things worse for themselves

The emails are still being released, and now he's pissed.

Not a good combo for the Clinton campaign, IMO.