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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 03:01 PM Oct 2016

How do you respond to this false equivalency: BLM is a hate group just like the KKK

Apparently my neighbor feels that African Americans engaged in protest against being shot by cops is just like a group that has engaged in systematic violence and murder for over 150 years.

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How do you respond to this false equivalency: BLM is a hate group just like the KKK (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2016 OP
BLM not on splc list or rolleyes uponit7771 Oct 2016 #1
What list? What is that? lonestarnot Oct 2016 #9
Southern Poverty Law Center Action_Patrol Oct 2016 #11
Sorry, put my specs on I see it is an L lonestarnot Oct 2016 #12
Tell them you'll accept that equivalency when . . . gratuitous Oct 2016 #3
No, but I like your thought process Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2016 #4
Thanks, you saved me having to type all that. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #16
Off the top of my head Zoonart Oct 2016 #5
But,but,but...they hate the police Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2016 #14
BLIND racism Zoonart Oct 2016 #15
BLM protests violence against poc, KKK promotes violence against poc uppityperson Oct 2016 #6
Ask him did any BLM string people up and lynch them like the kkk? kimbutgar Oct 2016 #7
One major difference is that Republicans don't court the BLM vote Orrex Oct 2016 #8
You are not likely to convince someone like this otherwise .... etherealtruth Oct 2016 #10
Mockery. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2016 #13
They are both race based groups that use violence for political gains Taitertots Oct 2016 #17
How many powerless minorities has BLM lynched? Or burned alive, Greybnk48 Oct 2016 #18
"Bull-fucking-shit, sir." Iggo Oct 2016 #19
stop talking to the pathological ignoramus nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #21
BLM wants solutions............ mrmpa Oct 2016 #22
Fuck that noise? a la izquierda Oct 2016 #23

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Tell them you'll accept that equivalency when . . .
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 03:11 PM
Oct 2016

When BLM starts lynching white people, you'll accept its equivalency with the Klan. When those lynchings aren't even investigated, let alone prosecuted, by the local authorities, then the equivalency argument might gain some traction. When BLM burns crosses on people's lawns, they'll match the Klan for odious behavior. When those burned crosses don't draw any attention from the sheriff, then BLM has achieved Klan status.

You could go on and on, but really, the point is that your neighbor doesn't want to know anything.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
16. Thanks, you saved me having to type all that.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 04:13 PM
Oct 2016

Just what I was thinking. Good heavens, how is that not obvious to anyone who knows anything about both groups?

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
5. Off the top of my head
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 03:14 PM
Oct 2016

BLM is out to end the hate and educate, unlike like KKK who spread the hate to intimidate,
a protest, not a rope fest,
a righteous cross and not a burning one.
Dedicated to keeping black men, women and children alive and not killing them... just to name a few.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
14. But,but,but...they hate the police
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 03:29 PM
Oct 2016

...and they riot.

Of course, conservatives hate the FBI and other law enforcement when it suits them, and had no issue with armed hoodlums occupying a wildlife refuge.

Orrex

(63,212 posts)
8. One major difference is that Republicans don't court the BLM vote
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 03:16 PM
Oct 2016

Another major difference is that the KKK has at its foundation a tradition of murder and torture of black people, while BLM hopes to end the torture and murder of black people.


The differences abound.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
10. You are not likely to convince someone like this otherwise ....
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 03:19 PM
Oct 2016

Since you have to live in proximity to them responding: You are a jack ass, is probably out

you could point out one group is fighting for their human/ civil rights (BLM) and the other group is fighting to try to take away another group's civil/ human rights (KKK) ... but, I doubt you will make any headway with someone that would make that connection in the first place.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
13. Mockery.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 03:26 PM
Oct 2016

You aren't going to reason them out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. You can make them feel bad, though.

When life gives you lemons, throw them at someone.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
17. They are both race based groups that use violence for political gains
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 04:29 PM
Oct 2016

"Engaged in protest"
You're using inaccurate language. In the last year we've seen BLM race riots, targeted racial violence, violence against drivers, violence against the police....

Replace "engaged in protest" with an equally accurate statement like "burned their neighbors businesses" or "attacked innocent people" and you'll understand why people think differently from you.

Greybnk48

(10,168 posts)
18. How many powerless minorities has BLM lynched? Or burned alive,
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 04:49 PM
Oct 2016

Or raped, or shot or sicked attack dogs on? Or burned their houses down, or blocked the doors to their schools? What a stupid comparison this is. The KKK is not JUST a hate group, it has a long, well documented history of murdering innocent people.

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