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kentuck

(111,095 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 03:45 PM Jun 2012

Most Republicans are either dishonest, greedy, or easily manipulated...


Why do I say that?

Mostly it has to do with the concept of labor. Most Republicans take the viewpoint of the businessman over the laborer. They believe the businessman has the right to make as much money off his "investment" as possible and pay the worker as least as possible in the process of production. Never mind if the businessman inherited his "investment", or won it in the Irish Sweepstakes, or found it on the side of the road. It doesn't matter.

This is just my opinion but it tells me that this Republican is either greedy, dishonest, or easily manipulated by the lies of the businessman. In the ultimate act of self-deception, he has convinced himself that the labor that can make him a multi-millionaire is fair and equitable, if he only returns 5% or 10% back to the laborer that made him wealthy.

Why do Republicans believe that way? In my opinion, they are dishonest and greedy. They do not believe in fairness. Labor, that creates the wealth that can make him a millionaire, is not as deserving as he, the capitalist. God forbid that he lose his entire investment and be in the same boat as the laborer. He could not then argue his superiority.

Just my thoughts about most Republicans...

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Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
1. Myself, I believe that the vast majority fall into the category of...
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jun 2012

... easily manipulated.

Low-information voters who are under-educated, superstitious, fearful, xenophobic, "patriotic" (whatever the hell that means), and easily manipulated.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
6. Yup, this....most R's I know actually are alcoholics....
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:32 PM
Jun 2012

I really wish I could see a study on that, how many R's are heavy drinkers/alcoholics versus D's....

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
2. I just do not understand so called independents who are sitting on some fence somewhere.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jun 2012

Republicans I understand every one I know has severe issues. I do not believe being a Democratic voter makes one superior, given what Republicans stand for today what choice is left for so called Independents?

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
7. I call myself an Independent since:
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:42 PM
Jun 2012

I generally don't like being part of a "Tribe", even if one makes more sense than the other. Hence, I am an Independent and don't see myself changing my status.

I "may" help out the Democrats far more than I have a Republicans however, I "WAS" not completely against voting for one if it made sense to me. Currently though, the Right has fell off the logic cliff and I can not reasonably vote for any of them in my area.

Besides, I have kept some Republican friends. I do not close doors due to politics.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
4. You know, if I went down to the market and picked up a can of black beans...
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:26 PM
Jun 2012

...that cost $1.19 and took it to the manager and repeated over and over, "I'll give you 99 cents for this can. 99 cents. That's what I'll pay you...99 cents!" and refused to pay more, what do you think would happen to me? Right! I'd be asked to leave, or have security called on me or the police, but I would not get that can of beans for 99 cents.

Now, what if I was a union worker who learned my trade as an apprentice for the required number of years and passed all required certification exams. What would my labor worth be? Why would the "consumer" of my expertise and craftsmanship be in the position of dictating what my labor is worth? Just like the can of beans and the suggested retail price, my worth as a union worker would be set by my union, either in negotiations with the "consumer" or through strikes when the "consumer" is unreasonable.

I don't know why we passively accept what businesses set as a price for their goods and services, yet we balk at the thought of a union worker doing the same...

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
5. I figure it is either incompetence or corruption, and sometimes both.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:28 PM
Jun 2012

It really doesn't matter if they are not competent enough to understand that their policies are bad for this country or if they are so corrupt that they don't care that their policies are bad for this country. The end product is the same.


Did 9-11 happen because the Bush Administration was incompetent when it came to keeping us safe or were they so corrupt that they allowed it to happen?

Did the economy crash because they were so incompetent that they couldn't see it coming and prevent it or were they so corrupt that they knowingly allowed it to happen?


Was the war in Iraq waged because they were to incompetent to know that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11 and had no WMD or were they so corrupt that they made it happen knowing that the reasons were fictitious?


It doesn't matter, the outcome is the same no matter the motivation.
 

Ghost of Huey Long

(322 posts)
8. Brazen Hypocrites
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jun 2012

They are against big government when it helps the little people, but all for expensive BIG government programs like Homeland Security and the TSA.

They pretend they care about the unborn, but demand more tax cuts amidst Republican created wars and Big Government leaving a huge burden of debt on the children coming into the world.

The pretend to care about the debt so want to cut social programs for these children, but are strangely silent about all the military industrial complex money that comes their way, or the Homeland Security gravy train they have their heads buried in while they are double dipping on government retirement benefits.

They are greedy, dishonest and in a great bit of denial if they think they are great patriots defending our country as they defend their own pocketbooks and delusions.

But the question now is, we know that a large percentage of the world is being controlled by sociopaths who are hoarding the world's wealth because of a personal psychological disorder...just how many millions are we going to let suffer and die before we get an official psychological diagnosis on these 1%ers and have them committed?

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
9. Though fewer no doubt, I still think one could say
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jun 2012

"most" Dems are as well, ie most politicians are, and there in a nutshell is why we are so screwn, even before Citizens United ruling.

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
10. The next time a 'bagger repeats the first paragraph back to you,
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 05:42 PM
Jun 2012

ask them "How compatible that is with "Job-Creation?", and watch their eyes go all weird. You can almost see the gears grinding to a halt trying to power-up the critical thinking areas of the brain. (And, for the record, I think THAT'S why they hate us over here so much.)

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
12. I've simply come to the conclusion
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 06:00 PM
Jun 2012

That they are either miserably stupid or just plain not decent people.

Sometimes both.

There are also a few "old timey" Republicans who vote for the party out of misplaces nostalgia and habit.

I've lost my patience with most of them.

Boy howdy, my visit with my Freeper brother next week ought to be entertaining. I'm hoping he doesn't bring up politics....if he does, he gets one chance to shut up. If he doesn't, it will get ugly. After all, it is my house he's staying in.

kentuck

(111,095 posts)
14. I would guess that about 30% of union members are Republican?
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:10 AM
Jun 2012

and Party affiliation over-rules union membership?

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