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LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:38 PM Jun 2012

So I posted the .gif going around FB about Medicare Overhead vs HMO Overhead, and one of my friends


told me:

I just answered a research question on this the administration cost to medicaid is .33 to the dollar as private insurance average is .18 to the dollar

I said, "Really? This can't include CEO bonuses...there's no way" and she says that she "works for the industry" and "can pull up both sides to any argument" So I told her that was awesome...Maybe she could post her data, or send a link as opposed to expecting me to take her word for it.

I'm still waiting...



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So I posted the .gif going around FB about Medicare Overhead vs HMO Overhead, and one of my friends (Original Post) LaydeeBug Jun 2012 OP
Methinks you'll be waiting a long time abelenkpe Jun 2012 #1
She tried to say that Medicare gets benefits too... LaydeeBug Jun 2012 #6
You're doing good! abelenkpe Jun 2012 #8
Private insurance has all sorts of ways to "cut cost" Scootaloo Jun 2012 #2
It is a flat out lie. No way she can prove that one. Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #3
She's got to include marketing/promotion/advertising. elleng Jun 2012 #4
I think these people are in the industry: Make7 Jun 2012 #5
Even Kaiser admits that Medicaid is way more efficient. sinkingfeeling Jun 2012 #7
Hope you don't have any appointments for the next few years. russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #9

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
1. Methinks you'll be waiting a long time
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:41 PM
Jun 2012

But do let us know if she gets back to you.

My father worked for the insurance business. He says single payer is the only thing that will truly save money. And he's a conservative.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
6. She tried to say that Medicare gets benefits too...
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jun 2012

I told her that it wasn't even honest to try and compare Medicare bonuses with what these CEO's are taking...

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
2. Private insurance has all sorts of ways to "cut cost"
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:46 PM
Jun 2012

such as denying every claim that they can, expelling people from insurance plans, and of course, refusing to cover. it's an industry that makes its money by NOT providing a product or service. That they have costs at all with this sort of business model reveals just how perversely inefficient they are.

elleng

(130,908 posts)
4. She's got to include marketing/promotion/advertising.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jun 2012

Bet she won't.

AND difference between 'private insurance' and 'HMO.'

Make7

(8,543 posts)
5. I think these people are in the industry:
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jun 2012

 
[div class="excerpt" style="border: 1px solid #bfbfbf; border-radius: 0.4615em; box-shadow: 3px 3px 3px #bfbfbf;"]Administrative costs of Medicaid are less than 7 percent, or half the rate that’s typically seen in the private sector. Medicaid holds down costs in part by paying providers lower fees and doing little marketing.[font style="font-size:0.8462em;"]


http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2009/july/01/medicaid-true-or-false.aspx[/font]

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
7. Even Kaiser admits that Medicaid is way more efficient.
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2009/july/01/medicaid-true-or-false.aspx

7. Medicaid is more efficient than private insurance.

True. Administrative costs of Medicaid are less than 7 percent, or half the rate that’s typically seen in the private sector. Medicaid holds down costs in part by paying providers lower fees and doing little marketing.

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