Why are Indiana and Minnesota police forces joining up with North Dakota police in Standing Rock?

[icymist]

Surfing on Facebook today I came across two petitions asking the police forces from two states to withdraw from North Dakota.

ACTION ALERT: CALL ON HENNEPIN COUNTY TO WITHDRAW FORCES FROM STANDING ROCK!
HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SPECIAL OPERATIONS UNITS HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED TO STANDING ROCK TO JOIN IN THE VIOLENT REPRESSION OF PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATIONS TO PROTECT THE WATER. IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF HENNEPIN COUNTY, MN, PLEASE TAKE ACTION TODAY!

http://www.honorearth.org/hennepinpetition

Withdraw Indiana police forces from North Dakota
We are asking that any and all law enforcement officers and equipment on behalf of the state or communities of Indiana be withdrawn from the current situation in Morton County North Dakota concerning the protest around the Dakota Access Pipeline.

https://www.change.org/p/joe-donnelly-withdraw-indiana-police-forces-from-north-dakota?recruiter=9530807&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=share_page&utm_term=des-lg-no_src-no_msg

I can't help but wonder what the hell is going on here! Police forces from other states of the Union are combining to form a de facto army? This is no longer a police action against protesters, but a coordination of police forces. It needs to be stopped because, as far as I know, we already have a standing army in this country. I'm not saying that the issue the Native Americans are protesting is not the big issue here. The media sure isn't covering this very much. Maybe that's because journalists are being targeted for arrest. It bothers me that a corporation can hire it's own 'security' force and, when that doesn't work out well, police departments from many different states join forces.

[Eleanors38]

1. This may be due to reluctance of calling out the Guard; "local" police seems less serious.

[icymist]

2. I don't like it.

This is a practice of police forces joining together. Logistics, coordination of troops, practice in communications. This is not what a local police force is for. These tactics remind me of maneuvers different armies make when practicing 'war games' only in the disguise of putting down a protest of around 100 people out on the prairie.

[Eleanors38]

7. I agree. LEOs are local constabulary, and little else. But one of the chief goals of G.W.BushCo...

and the GOPers was/is to nationalize police forces in a crisis so they would answer to a central unitary presidency. Those guys have no patience for democracy, or even local governance. I recommend reading up on how Bush-Chaney got Congress to de-fang the Posse Comitatus Act in 2006 (?), then Congress reversed itself and re-instated the Act within a year. Strange goings on, very little said about, but there was credible speculation that Katrina gave the FR an opportunity to fundamentally change how the police and military are used in a time of crisis.

[icymist]

8. I fail to see what the crisis is in this case.

A private company is being protested against for building an oil pipeline? Not a crisis. If we want to use such loose criteria for what determines a crisis than Pence could declare a state of emergency because Rrump is losing the election! Our police are becoming a joke of what they used to be.

[Eleanors38]

10. The crisis is persistent, confrontational protest...

...whether or not you see in this instant issue any real reason for the protest; hence, the question of local LEO sufficiency. The recent history of the Posse Comitatus Act might be instructive in explaining the pre-disposition to use out of jurisdiction (indeed, out of state) LEOs.

[icymist]

11. Well, it looks like shots have been fired at Standing Rock. Rubber and lethal shots.

Two medics giving aid at front line were hit with batons and thrown off the car they were sitting on. Police grabbed another medic who was driving a car out of the driver side while it was still in motion. Another water protector had to jump into the car to stop it from hitting other people.

Members of the horse nation herded around 100 buffalo from the west and southwest of the Cannonball Ranch onto the the DAPL easement. One rider was reportedly hit with up to four rubber bullets his horse was reported to be hit in the legs by live rounds. Another horse was shot and did not survive.

A confirmed DAPL private security guard was spotted among the protectors with an automatic rifle heading towards camp. Water protectors acted swiftly to stop the man who was attempting to flee the scene in his pickup. One protector stopped the assailant’s vehicle with their own before the security guard fled to nearby waters, weapon in hand. Bureau of Indian Affairs police arrived on scene and apprehended him.

http://boldnebraska.org/police-from-5-states-escalate-violence-shoot-horses-to-clear-1851-treaty-camp/

Do I read this right that live rounds were fired at a person riding a horse, hitting and killing the horse?

[elehhhhna]

3. Well, the contract private security with the creepy dogs didn't go over very well

and apparently sheriffs departments from various states have lending agreements in place probably because 9/11 and freedom . So they put out a call for assistance and two states so far have responded. North Dakota, of course has to reimburse the states for all their expenses and payroll. Not sure who covers for all the missing sheriffs deputies in the two states. Anyway, I suspect the only other option is to call out the State National Guard and that would enrage the public. So that's probably what's going to happen next.

[onethatcares]

4. the Pinkertons come to mind here.

guns for hire, with great wages and food everyday.

I forgot who said, " I can hire one half of the country to kill the other half".

That's what private security forces are for.

[icymist]

5. Only these are our tax payer funded police departments.

You know, the overly militarized police?

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[hatrack]

6. "I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half" - Jay Gould (attributed)

Also a good quote, and one that never gets old:

"It was the custom when men received nominations to come to me for contributions, and I made them and considered them good paying investments for the company. In a Republican district I was a strong Republican; in a Democratic district I was Democratic, and in doubtful districts I was doubtful. In politics I was an Erie Railroad man all the time."

[csziggy]

9. That quote has been attributed to Jay Gould

I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.

Frequently attributed, often in the context of strikebreaking activities during the Great Southwest Railroad Strike of 1886. See for example Philip Sheldon Foner, History of the Labor Movement in the United States, Volume 2‎ - Page 50 (1975). A contemporary source has not been identified. Varying forms of the quotation circulated in the labor press as early as 1893, with or without the attribution to Gould.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jay_Gould#Attributed

[Dawson Leery]

12. There is a reason that the major law enforcement organizations

are backing their fellow fascist Trump.