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ZX86

(1,428 posts)
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 02:11 PM Oct 2016

Bundy Verdict: And People Wonder Why POC Aren't Standing for Nat'l Anthem

It's because the criminal justice system is grossly unfair and Black lives are disposable in the eyes of law enforcement. Every time we see another White person escape justice and another Black person needlessly and cavalierly killed during encounters with police it's a punch in the gut.

Same kind of gut punch we got when Rodney King cops were acquitted. Same kind of gut punch we get knowing men, women, and children can be gunned down in the street, found hanging in jail cells, and with broken necks in the back of police vans for the most minor offenses (or no offenses at all!); yet White folks can engage in open, heavily armed insurrection and they will be coddled, pampered, and eventually set free.

You can point guns at cops, steal land, steal government resources, steal government property, occupy government buildings, threaten government workers and it's all cool. Not so much as a parking ticket let alone a felony conviction. As long as you're White. But if you're Black you better not have so much as a disabled car on the side of the road or you could be shot dead in the street.

It's really hard to get into all that ra ra America crap at every sporting event when your daily reality is one day watching a guy getting choked to death on the sidewalk for selling loose cigarettes and the next day seeing anti-government terrorists acquitted for crimes we all saw them commit.

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Bundy Verdict: And People Wonder Why POC Aren't Standing for Nat'l Anthem (Original Post) ZX86 Oct 2016 OP
k/r Dawson Leery Oct 2016 #1
The way I understand it... atreides1 Oct 2016 #2
Pretty easy to figure out. ZX86 Oct 2016 #3
Here's a thread with some good links to local articles... Buns_of_Fire Oct 2016 #4
Classic instance of Jury nullification, plain and simple. COLGATE4 Oct 2016 #8
They WERE charged with possession of firearms on government property. enough Oct 2016 #6
I haven't stood for the anthem Mendocino Oct 2016 #7

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
2. The way I understand it...
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 02:19 PM
Oct 2016

The government was trying to prove conspiracy, because a conviction for conspiracy will often result in a longer prison sentence!

Which would cause me to question why the prosecutor just didn't go for the charges that could be proven, ie. Theft of government property, trespassing on government property, possession of firearms on government property?

There are other theories, were the jurors threatened in any way by Bundy supporters, did the jurors already have their minds made up and were just going through the motions, did the prosecutor reach to far...I'm sure there are other theories, we'll never really know!

Buns_of_Fire

(17,183 posts)
4. Here's a thread with some good links to local articles...
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 02:34 PM
Oct 2016
Bundy Jurors speak: arrogance of prosecution and predisposed to acquit http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028256973

Especially interesting is the link to the original Oregonian article: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/juror_4_prosecutors_in_oregon.html (Juror 4: Oregon standoff prosecutors failed to prove 'intent' to impede federal workers) -- it almost looks like the jury was looking for a loophole they could use to send the Bundy Bunch on their merry way...

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
8. Classic instance of Jury nullification, plain and simple.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 03:50 PM
Oct 2016

Those idiots weren't going to convict their fellow morons.

enough

(13,259 posts)
6. They WERE charged with possession of firearms on government property.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 02:38 PM
Oct 2016

They were acquitted of that also.

Mendocino

(7,495 posts)
7. I haven't stood for the anthem
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 02:48 PM
Oct 2016

or recited the pledge in 45 some years. I've been yelled at and ridiculed, had all sorts of stuff thrown at me. What these rubes don't realize that every time they retaliate, my resolve grows greater.

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