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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,135 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:26 PM Nov 2016

Janus' Gross says Trump will be one-termer, in failure for populism

President-elect Donald Trump will last no more than four years in the White House, a period when corporations and Wall Street will retain the upper hand over the struggling workers who helped elect him in a populist wave, bond manager Bill Gross of Janus Capital Group Inc (JNS.N) said on Wednesday.

In his monthly investment outlook, "Populism Takes a Wrong Turn," Gross also said "there is no new Trump bull market in the offing," and that global diversified investors should be "satisfied" with 3 percent to 5 percent annual returns.

"The Trumpian Fox has entered the Populist Henhouse, not so much by stealth but as a result of Middle America's misinterpretation of what will make America great again," Gross wrote.

"[Trump's] tenure will be a short four years but is likely to be a damaging one for jobless and low-wage American voters," Gross added. "I write in amazed, almost amused bewilderment at what American voters have done to themselves."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/janus-gross-says-trump-will-be-one-termer-in-failure-for-populism/ar-AAkmVnG?li=BBnb7Kz

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DinahMoeHum

(21,803 posts)
1. The original, from Janus / Investment Outlook
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:14 PM
Nov 2016
https://www.janus.com/insights/bill-gross-investment-outlook

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To my mind, there are better solutions than either party's election platform, such as a Keynesian/FDR job corps or a Kennedyesque AmeriCorps that puts people to work helping other people.
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Populism is on the march and a Trump victory will do little to halt its advance in future decades. If anything, it is demographically baked in the cake.
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Meanwhile, he still has to avoid major scandal before the
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:24 PM
Nov 2016

electoral college votes and the vote is announced on January 9--to avoid giving the Republicans in Congress an excuse to choose someone else, like Ryan. Then he still has to avoid having his own party remove him from office--for four years. The former may be unlikely, but I wouldn't bet a nickle he serves out his term.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
3. If Bush got two terms, I don't see why Trump can't especially when you consider the fact that a
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:48 PM
Nov 2016

large portion of the party establishment refuses to recognize any of mistakes they made or the necessity of engaging the general public on economic issues.

Taking corporate money, paying lip service to social issues and saying "we're better than the animals on the other side of the aisle, so you have to vote for us" is not a valid strategy.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. he can win a second term, I think "can't" should be out of our vocabulary regarding
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:50 PM
Nov 2016

that orange beast for now.

We can beat him, by the same token.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
5. Assuming that they'll be so disastrous that people will vote the Republicans and Trump out is just
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:53 PM
Nov 2016

as ridiculous as assuming that Hillary was "inevitable."

The Democratic party needs a proper platform that will drive people to vote for them rather than against the Republicans.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. assume nothing, but be prepared to take advantage of opportunities as well as having
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:11 PM
Nov 2016

a strategic plan

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
11. Trump will need his "Reichstag Fire"
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:52 PM
Nov 2016

Bush had 9/11. With some help from Putin's agents, I'm confident he will find his.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
12. I just having a conversation about that possibility last night.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:56 PM
Nov 2016

Bush looked like he was totally inept and on his way to being a one-term president during his first year in office pre-9/11.

If a major attack happens with this incarnation of the Republican party controlling Congress and the Supreme court, we're looking at the possibility of the US becoming a dictatorship.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
9. Noted. Trump has proposed a massive public infrastructure rebuild which might...
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:21 PM
Nov 2016

carry him through a second term, FDR-style. I also note that many elements in the Democratic Party are cool to these old populist measures, seeking instead counsel from very large financial institutions.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
10. Fascists play on populist sympathies much of the time.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:29 PM
Nov 2016

Although the it's not clear what Trump actually is, other than a really bad idea.
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