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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe First Naked Lady or The Third Lady? What shall we call the AWOL trophy wife?
Can't decide.
First Not a Lady?
elleng
(130,974 posts)Attacking her is pointless and ugly.
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)I myself don't have ANY problem with it. I just find it curious that these Bible-waving, scripture-jabbering HORDES find HER acceptable along with her rapist, racist, pussy-grabbing husband.
However. . . Were she a LIBERAL First Lady AND a porn star? It certainly wouldn't bother me.
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)Isn't it bad enough she has to live with all the gold all over the place?
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)All the gold everywhere was HER idea. She's an interior decorator now. I guess she redesigned her "acting career" as well along with her "resume" and her "speech" she gave at the Republican Convention.
I'm not going to rag her about her porn years. But I WILL rag her fundie supporters who like to brag about their personal relationship with "Jayzus."
Arazi
(6,829 posts)What happened to "we go high"?
elleng
(130,974 posts)and dare I say a good amount of 'low' concerns slamming Mrs. Trump. Misogyny??? Imagine THAT!
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)really. Just look around.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Siwsan
(26,268 posts)I really think had he not pulled this off, she would have left him. And maybe she still will.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)She will be free of the orange one for several days a week.
Freddie
(9,267 posts)In several early administrations when the President was widowed or his wife was an invalid, his daughter, daughter-in-law or niece took the "First Lady" role.
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liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)This is who the Christian Right wing picked as our First Lady? Lol. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)WTF is wrong with you?
whathehell
(29,067 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)Please delete this.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,735 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)It's blood in the stool.
That was the first thing that sprang to mind when I heard her name.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,742 posts)ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)moisturizer "from head to toe" to care. And btw, "he likes it"!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/11/donald-trumps-son-barron-caviar-moisturizer_n_3063299.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
trof
(54,256 posts)LeftInTX
(25,380 posts)I love smelling like chocolate.
lapucelle
(18,275 posts)However, I will condemn the trumpsters who give her a pass when they would give it to no other woman.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Facts are facts.
Or we could normalize this shit so our daughters can aspire to it, in the name of not "slut shaming".
lunasun
(21,646 posts)onecaliberal
(32,864 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Just for grins and giggles...
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whathehell
(29,067 posts)It is "off limits" in the minds of several here, including me.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)WTF is wrong with you.
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liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)I don't understand why posters here are defending this gold digging strumpet. Republicans have trashed Michelle Obama for the last eight years though she carried herself with grace and class. And she never posed nude.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Ain't that the truth.
This woman's a racist birther just like her racist husband IS. She didn't think twice before she attacked the Pres. over his birth certificate. Guess it was the President's brown skin and her white skin that got her thinking that way and saying what she said.
She gets no pass from me. I hold her accountable for her racist birthirism.
Out of the DOOR and after 8 years, Michelle was just deplorably called an ape in heels by a racist WV official, and her friend, the mayor of Clay WV thought that was funny--saying it made her day. Thank goodness that racist official was forced to resign.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)like "strumpet" which is based on an ugly double standard that encourages men to use women and then spit on them as 'whores' and "sluts" and other
slurs.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)So there. Equality.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Men are "studs", women are "sluts", your creative little attempt at "equality", notwithstanding.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Elevate sluds to the same highly cool pedestal you think studs have attained?
Kardashian thinking, that.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)At this point, I'm not even sure we're asking the same question.
obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)I loathe every Trump over the age of 10, but this is appalling and slut shaming.
I have panic attacks all night every night because of him winning the EC vote. Literally. It terrifies me.
But your op? Out of bounds and inappropriate and slut shaming.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)I'm not going to normalize Melania. Not going to happen.
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liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)I see what you did there. So much for the sanctity of marriage.
Turbineguy
(37,343 posts)going after her.
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)Could we just call her Mrs. Cheeto Spork Hands?
Now I get it!
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)If he got elected.
avebury
(10,952 posts)the hook for the cost of separate homes. The Trumps are being fiscally irresponsible. I don't even want to think about how money they will charge the Govt for space in Trump Tower. It will be interesting to see the occupancy rate as condo owners, businesses and stores bail out of the building. I wonder how much debt he is carrying on that building.
I can't imagine the people of NYC being happy about the circus and the impact on businesses in the area. This is the ultimate third finger in tha air to all those who never really accepted the Trumps as one of them.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)JI7
(89,252 posts)They're ARE things to ridicule her in like her copying speeches. Her defense of trump. The immigration matter etc.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)News flash: She's not the problem, he is.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)There's enough sexism spreading itself around like manure in fertile soul.
*edit--her fuck ups belong to her, not anyone else, but I don't give a shit if she posed nude.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)She's the least offensive thing about the Trump administration.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)just saying.. That will be noted in the history books.
But maybe call her Fraud Lady.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)I keep thinking of that Italian politician who had been a porn star--ah. Google is, indeed my friend
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/2/12/1328892/-Cicciolina-The-Porn-Star-in-Parliament
So we are apparently behind the, er, curve.
That being said I'm not planning on any Melania bashing, I think she's trying hard to protect her kid as much as she can.
If I was planning on Melania bashing--which I'm not--it would involve a certain similarity of her first name to a medical condition, not her modeling career.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)the nickname Fraud Lady... Plus with Trumps fascist tendencies it could be shortened to Frau Lady!
Alright... my comedy routine ends there.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)I want to stay aware from shaming her gender or sexuality, but, she is married to a monster--on purpose--and she might be a monster too. Stealing that speech made her look like a moron, and I have never understood it
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Btw, only one of the above is a choice.
Laughably twisted.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Melania has earned it. Worked for it...and facts are facts.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems to me that calling her "not a lady" is just another way to slut shame her.
Melania really shouldn't be the target at all. I don't have any issues with her, whether she posed nude or even copied Michelle's speech. I don't think she's that bright, but I don't see her as my enemy or anyone worthy of spewing venom at over how she chose to earn her living, even if she married Trump for his money.
I just flat out don't care.
I see this as sexist attacks against her and the right has been far more virulent in regards to Michelle.
What I read here bothers me a hell of a lot as a woman.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)This is not sexist imo because were she instead his male spouse and also a porn model I'd post the same shit.
I can talk shit about then first porn person flotus. You go ahead and argue for the normalization of porn culture.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Porn is consenting adults having sex in front of a camera. Anything other than that is just a crime.
I don't give a flying fuck if she was in the middle of a basketball gangbang. She is still an adult making her own decisions and she shouldn't be stigmatized for it.
Her posing nude is not an issue and shouldn't be at all.
What should be at issue is her husband and the fucking Reich he wants to institute here in this country.
And you bitch about porn. SMFH.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Some of us would rather defend the honor of Donalds current porn model wife.
Demit
(11,238 posts)MFM008
(19,816 posts)Her name.. her face ....her past.
This bunch are illigitimate and they can all go to hell
Kids included.
At least till the maggot drops dead and gets out of our faces.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Seems classless and really unwarranted. We should be better than that.
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)See how that strategy "works" for us....
Demit
(11,238 posts)Do you really think you are making a political statement by attacking a political wife? Do you feel proud about that? You should be ashamed.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Sorry.
liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)her husband after he called another woman a pig. The gold digger said it was ok to call women such names if they deserved it. She is a piece of shit like her husband. Stop defending this trash. She is no saint as evidenced by the photos in this thread.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)She's not who we should target.
Also, the photos...so what. Big deal. She was earning a living. Is that how we define women who pose in the nude? We slut shame them for showing her breasts?
It's the wrong target. Trump is where we should focus our energies.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)she's "no saint" because she posed nude? Who the fuck cares? It's 2016. Not me.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)..and I won't bring myself down to the level of commenters in right wing websites by demeaning her.
Edited to add: Yet.
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)But I agree with the commenter above who believes that Ivanka will be 'filling in' in that area of his administration. (I don't mean to imply lewdness here, though there's plenty of reason to)
And I hope (wish?) that the press would watch her business dealings (and her husband's) with an eye out for corruption like a dog watches its owner eat a meat-lovers pizza.
(Fat chance).
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)...3W - 3rd Wife.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)But I will not forget her past which is fact.
I think Donald wants Ivanka in the role of First Lady because he is embarrassed at Melania. He's embarrassed that she has a hard time speaking in public, and she is, after all, on the downhill slide to 50. For a "pussy grabber", a 50-year old woman is an embarrassment to his virility.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)Hopefully she will see the light some day and be the former Mrs. Trump.
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)and I wouldn't even be surprised if she is an abuse victim. I don't give a shit if someone poses nude. I think judging her is much more unseemly than posing.
If she gets involved in politics, I will be quick to criticize her. But even then, it will have nothing to do with her past.
There is plenty of shit to tear down her husband for. Why don't you focus your energy there?
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)grifter.
CBHagman
(16,986 posts)I don't blame spouses or children for political figures' (or cruel, grasping businessmen's) behavior.
Grey Lemercier
(1,429 posts)I refuse get into the misogynistic nazi gutter the Trumps and their legion of goons dwell in.
Some of the comments on here are appalling.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Like when trump was running his manner must be due to a recent decline in health and please ignore his long documented past
treestar
(82,383 posts)We are such wussies, us liberals, always being nice. Where has that got us? They just laugh and call us weak.