CNN Unsure If Trump Should Take Political Risk Of Acknowledging Jews Are People

[octoberlib]

If you tuned in to CNN earlier today, you might have found yourself greeted by a chyron that could have been ripped straight out of a Newt Gingrich Nazi fanfic: Alt-Right Founder Questions If Jews Are People. The real question, of course, is whether our president-elect should distance himself from an explicit group of neo-Nazis. And according to CNN, the answer is a resounding “WEELLLL ...”

Watching ostensibly educated adults grapple with whether our soon-to-be president should take the political risk of denouncing a strain of outright neo-Nazism that poses the question of whether Jews are actually human beings is a bizarre and wholly insane experience, so let’s walk through this together.

An anchor whom no one seems to be able to name but who looks suspiciously like Jason Sudeikis in Mitt Romney makeup starts us on our journey:

Richard Spencer, he’s the man who actually coined that term, “alt-right.” He was in Washington this weekend. He was spewing, as he often does, what I can only describe as hate-filled garbage. Of Jews, Spencer said ... “One wonders if these people are people at all, or instead soulless golem.

Does President Trump need to formally denounce and disavow these groups as a whole?

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/cnn-unsure-if-trump-should-take-political-risk-of-ackno-1789237862?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[Bettie]

1. You know, it gets harder every day

to figure out what is satire and what is real.

Did we slide into a parallel universe? Should I be wearing a goatee or something?

[octoberlib]

3. I don't know why I'm stunned but I am. Every day.

Are Jews people and Nazi have been trending on Twitter for the past hour. Thankfully, the majority of people are horrified.

[Bettie]

5. I just can't shake the sense that things are going to get much worse

The majority are horrified, but the lunatics are in charge and they plan on burning the whole thing down after stripping all of any value from it.

[octoberlib]

6. I feel the same way.

[dhill926]

23. yep...

and it's gonna happen before we know it....

[BigDemVoter]

27. I just had dinner with a friend who is trans.

She is fearful and feels traumatized.

It seems like this country went from day to night just overnight from November 8th to November 9th, and there hasn't been ANY light since.

How can people be so blind to the power-hunger, greed, and deceit of the Yam and his minions?

[REP]

2. I was hoping this was satire but holy shit it isn't.

[octoberlib]

7. Nope, just CNN.

[Behind the Aegis]

13. Nope. It is what we should expect.

Given we have had practice with this in the past, both left and right versions, we are now going to see those versions become more and more mainstream. The real question is whether other people will actually have a problem with it, or continue to ignore it has they have done in the past.

[BigDemVoter]

28. My money is all on them ignoring it.

The BEST and most RELIABLE indicator of future behavior?

Past behavior!!!

[marybourg]

29. We are post-satire. nt.

[True_Blue]

31. I thought it was an Onion headline

[spin]

8. While I'm not defending Trump it might be only be fair to point out...

That while there have numerous anti-Semitism-related incidents involving the Trump campaign he has top advisors and family members who are members of the Jewsih faith.

On the other hand, Trump has an intimate familiarity with Jewish practice and Jewish life. His daughter, Ivanka, converted to Orthodox Judaism in 2009; if elected, Trump would be the first president to be the parent and grand-parent of observant Jews. Ivanka’s husband, real-estate magnate Jared Kushner, is an Orthodox Jew and one of Trump’s top advisers. The Trump Organization’s longtime chief financial officer and general counsel are both observant Jews, and Trump has the support of perhaps the single most important political donor in the American Jewish world—Las Vegas casino mogul Sheldon Adelson. Though he is a deeply repellent political figure to many American Jews, Trump can plausibly claim that Jews and Judaism are closer to the center of his life and work than they are for his opponent, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/207978/trumps-jews

To me Trump is an enigma. So is the fact that it appears he has the strong support of so many people and groups who are anti-Semitic.

There are times that I feel I have stepped into a parallel universe. Things here make little or no sense.I have no idea how to get back the sensible universe I came from but I'm trying my best.

[Behind the Aegis]

12. So what?

As for "top members" of this staff, there is his SIL and Adelson, not a huge number. Also, he has Kellyanne Conway/Corey Lewandowski/Allen West, so should we also "be fair" and mention her/him/him anytime there are accusations of sexism/homophobia/racism from his camp?

The concept you are using is "some of this best friends are..." and it never justifies nor excuses someone from bigotry. I understand you aren't trying to do it, but this "concept" has already been used by the media and others to claim something is/isn't anti-Semitism. The anti-Semitism coming from the campaign trail and now the in-coming administration and its lackeys is real. Bigotry against Jews is real. We are real.

[spin]

21. As I said I wasn't defending Trump. ...

There is no doubt that there was racism in Trump's campaign.

I simply can't figure Trump out. I also find it hard to believe he was elected. I find myself in a strange and confusing world.

[Behind the Aegis]

34. I know.

I tried to get across the point I understood you weren't defending the president-elect or anti-Semitism. I was trying to explain, from a Jewish perspective, what those words mean to me and how I find them offensive because it attempts to mitigate or lessen the charges of anti-Semitism by claiming "some of his best friends are...".

As for the soon to be "Conspirator and Cheat", he is nothing but loyal to himself and maybe his family, if it suits his needs and desires. The only thing to understand about that orange slug is he is an amoral sack of shit, who works on baser animal instincts and desires, which may be the source of confusion for anyone with a soul, intelligence, and compassion.

[marybourg]

30. Rob Reiner: Jared Kushner has turned his back on Judiasm.

http://www.jta.org/2016/11/20/news-opinion/politics/rob-reiner-on-jared-kushner-he-turned-his-back-on-judaism

[still_one]

32. So what. When trump pushed an image of Hillary with the Star of David as a backdrop along with

dollar bills, as "the most corrupt candidate ever", his son-in-law defended that bullshit.

Clarence Thomas is an African American, but he is no pillar of civil rights.

Norman Finkelstein is a holocaust apologist, and his parents were in the holocaust

There are other examples also

[JI7]

36. who gives a fucking shit, there are racist white men married to black women who spew racist shit at

Obama.

[bettyellen]

37. You don't know why he has the neo-Nazi support? No ideas,huh?

[Ilsa]

9. While ttrump is enacting a muslim registry, we could

Start a registry of everyone revealing themselves to be neo-nazis, homophobic, misogynistic, bigoted, racist, or anti-semitic. Let's let them reveal themselves so we can deal with them accordingly.

[workinclasszero]

10. Way past time for the left to realize and acknowledge

that fascism won control of the government in the last election. We damn well all better hang together now or separately later as the saying goes.

The trump regime is fascist and looking for its reichstag fire moment. They are coming after the Jews in this country I have no doubts.

[COLGATE4]

11. They'll start with the Muslims after some Reichstag fire-type incident.

But not to worry - the Jews are never far behind.

[Behind the Aegis]

14. We'll get the blame for the "Reichstag fire-type incident".

People will be all too willing to round us up again.

[COLGATE4]

15. Of course. It's always the 'Jooz'.

[Behind the Aegis]

17. Time to break this oldie, but goodie out again....(sadly, becoming mainstream and not just fringe)

[COLGATE4]

19. Is that Trump's candidate for head of the F.B.I.?

[Behind the Aegis]

20. Maybe. For the newly renamed FBI...

Fatherland Bureau of Ivestigation.

[workinclasszero]

18. Agree sadly

[still_one]

33. I am Jewish, and I agree with you, they will come after the American Muslims first, but the Jews

won't be far behind, nor will African Americans or Hispanics.

I have never been more concerned for our country

[COLGATE4]

39. The Muslims are just easy pickings. Nobody will stick up for them.

The poisoning of the American mind against all Muslims, regardless of nationality or any other factor was aptly done throughout the campaign by the Trumpenfuhrer. Once they're disposed of the next available scapegoats, particulary with the advice of Bannon and the alt-Reich are, as always, the Jews. Good thing Israel has the right of return.

[kydo]

16. Wait, this is real?

I thought for sure it was fake. This crazy. Real news sounds like fake news. Fake news is believed more then real news. How can we even tell what is real anymore.

[Generator]

24. Bannon

Said and I quote "Satan is good, darkness is good" I think you know believe people when they tell you they hate you. This country need a massive strike or anybody with sense and money is out. I have been talking about it for awhile with husband and kids. I don't want a cent of my money going to nazi's. But that's just me.

Steve Bannon is the chief Strategist for Trump. This is some fucked up shit.

[atreides1]

22. I have to wonder

Is the Republican Jewish Coalition, going to be responsible for compiling lists? They seem to be very quiet about this, I'm just curious, the US Holocaust Memorial Museum put out a statement, but complete silence from Adelson and others!

[Demsrule86]

25. At some point Democrats are going to have to stop rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

and face the fact that we have elected a fascist bigot as president...and no Democrat should work with hi on anything or an independent for that matter.

[lonestarnot]

26. Wow, not surprised. Nazis know how to creep. It's no worse than I expected yet. Not minimizing.

I really expect for some shit to break out of the burning dumpster. We are in for it. Pure fucking evil fucks soon to be doing viciousness.

[JI7]

35. yeah, but at least it wasn't emails

CNN sucks so fucking bad and they are worse than Fox News.

[Feeling the Bern]

38. Was that Jooy Joo Jesus a person too?

Face it, folks. We lost! I've given up.

I'm just preparing myself to when I go back to the ovens. I literally have no more fight in me.

[COLGATE4]

40. Didn't you know that Jesus was a Christian?

[LeftishBrit]

41. ZOICKS!!!! The world is going in a backward direction to a very dangerous place.