Can we quit fighting about "slut shaming?"

[rzemanfl]

Let's talk about the party of "family values" and the way they treat women. They trade in the old one in on a newer model when just an extramarital affair isn't enough. I remember back in the dark days of Dubyah when someone at DU asked for a list of Republican Congressmen and Senators who had left their wives for younger women. People chimed in and the list got substantial. Trump is not even serially monogamous, yet women and so called Christians voted for the pig.

Nonetheless, it is sexist here to say these second and third wives of power hungry pigs are anything but sweet misguided souls. It apparently is also a wonderment that women voted for a pussy grabber, the poor dear things.

We can fight among ourselves or we can fight them. I don't think we can do both.

[onecaliberal]

1. Women voted for him. Supposedly.

[rzemanfl]

2. That's what the exit polls say. 51% of white women. n/t

[onecaliberal]

4. Thank god I'm not one of them. When you elect a sexual assaulter I don't know what to say for them

I'm at such a loss. They're going to strip rights women have fought for decades to win. My daughter will not control the rights to her own reproductive system. I hope all these women who voted for trump or stein get their just karma in this life.

[boston bean]

3. Well. Trump is president. Not Melania.

Second is we are just better peple. What do we gain with sexism against melania trump?

[rzemanfl]

5. Not my point. People here are too quick to jump to the defense

of the third wife of a pig. The discussion of Melania Trump is irrelevant and a waste of time. She is what she is. We all know it.

[boston bean]

6. What point should I be addressing?

[rzemanfl]

8. The boorish behavior of the pigs in office toward women in their personal

and professional lives. Starting with pussy grabber.

[boston bean]

9. Ok. What did I say that contradicts that? I am confused.

[dumbcat]

10. "We are just better people." Really?

Look at the responses in this and other posts. Do you really think we are "better people"?

[boston bean]

11. Maybee not all of us. And maybe not everyone all the time.

[rzemanfl]

12. You're right. Trump is the President elect.

Except for the million bucks a day New York will be spending to guard her and her issue, the third Mrs. Trump is no more relevant than the first two. I wonder how much is being spent to protect the women he assaulted who came forward.

What a f**king mess this country has become in less than two weeks.

[MFM008]

7. She can drop dead to

Along with maggot.

[Bettie]

13. It can be hard to separate it all....

I mean, the fact is that the nutjobs put this woman on a pedestal as the perfect image of womanhood, even though she has done pretty much everything they claim is immoral.

Had she been the wife of a guy with a "D" after his name, she'd have been savaged. Instead, she is revered.

So, yeah, it is hard to discuss this without it sounding like slut shaming at times.

[rzemanfl]

14. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.... n/t

[Bettie]

16. Mostly, I try to avoid commenting on her

but it is not slut shaming to point out to Trumpkins that she has done all the things they claim to be against (except had an abortion, far as I know). That is a simple pointing out of hypocrisy for all the good it does.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. We can call out their hypocrisy when they try to push a bullshit Fundamentalist culture war agenda.

If you want progressives to line up with outrage because a consenting adult posed nude for pictures, though, I expect it'll be a lean turnout.

[hamsterjill]

17. I agree.

Especially with your last sentence, but with the sentiment expressed, as well.

The Trump supporters who are employees, family and voters looked beyond the experience, capabilities and brilliance of another woman to vote for a man who talked about grabbing pussies. But he didn't talk about just the act, he clearly conveyed the dominance he felt because he sees himself as a "star" and as superior.

Women who support this behavior (and voting for him means to me that they supported it) lost a lot of my respect. They don't understand the very real aspirations of true feminists who seek to better the world for ALL women.

With the loss of that respect, I don't have much compassion left to object to "slut shaming" them.

[Lifelong Protester]

18. You are correct and I liked your last line the best.

"We can fight among ourselves or we can fight them. I don't think we can do both."

[BainsBane]

19. Just forget about Melania

She's not the problem. The last thing that concerns me about a Trump presidency is Melania's nude modeling.

[BigDemVoter]

20. I must have missed this one.

I am not sure what kind of "slut-shaming" this concerns.

But I know there were comments about Mrs. Trump's naked photos that can easily be found. . . .ummm. . . .everywhere.

Mrs. Trump's photos don't bother me. I honestly don't care. I don't care how she had sex or with whom (I don't want to think about what she does with the Yam) or how many times or whether she required lubricant or not. THOSE are the kinds of craven, hypocritical questions these fake-ass Bible thumpers jump on whenever they get the opportunity (think Bill Clinton).

No, the POINT is the hypocrisy and dishonesty of their entire party. Their problem with Michelle Obama's arms was the fact that her arms were brown.

MY problem with Mrs. Trump is not that she had sex or made films or posed nude or. . . whatever.
Those things do not define Mrs. Trump.

The things that do? Well. . . She married the Yam, didn't she? She's lied through her teeth about, well. . .. everything.

Slut-shaming? Let's leave that for stupid 8th-graders. There is ENOUGH to shame her with without having to discuss any pussy-grabbing she may have partaken in.