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still_one

(92,216 posts)
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:25 AM Nov 2016

If you don't believe that the television media has been compromised just compare these two

versions of the same story:

First CNN:

" Trump vented about media coverage, according to sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity. He was highly critical of CNN and other news organizations.

But while Trump showed disdain for the news media, he also answered questions; listened to the journalists' arguments about the importance of access; and committed to making improvements.

A source in the room told CNNMoney that there was "real progress" made with regards to media access to Trump and his administration.

One specific topic was the importance of the "press pool," a small group of journalists that traditionally travels with the president.

The hour-long meeting was off the record, meaning the participants agreed not to talk about the substance of the conversations.

But Trump senior adviser Kellyanne Conway, who arranged the meeting, said afterward that it was "very cordial, candid and honest."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/21/media/donald-trump-meeting-tv-networks/index.html

Now here is how the newspapers reported the meeting:

WashingtonPost:

"TV execs, hosts gather for contentious ‘reset’ meeting with Trump"
"Here’s how it went, according to our colleague Karen Tumulty:

On Monday afternoon, he had a contentious Trump Tower meeting with another one of his chief adversaries: members of the news media.

In the session with more than a dozen television executives and on-air journalists, Trump was highly critical of coverage of him, according to several people familiar with the gathering. Keeping his voice calm and his tone flippant, he told the group sitting around a conference table that they failed to provide their viewers with fair and accurate coverage and told them they failed to understand him or his appeal to millions of Americans.

Trump expressed particular ire at CNN and at several reporters at other cable networks whom he sees as unreasonably antagonistic toward him, though he did not mention them by name."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/21/tv-hosts-executives-gather-in-new-york-for-reset-meeting-with-trump/

The NY Times reported a similar story to the Washington Post. Perhaps this is why Trump cancelled the meeting with the NY Times:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-new-yorktimes_us_58343347e4b030997bc129f5

For those who are under the false illusion that someone MSNBC is better, remember they were the first network who LIED that the "FBI had reopened the email investigation", and then began to parade every right wing politician across their screen for their opinion.

A few days later when it was calming down, Fox news bret baier came out and said "from his sources in the FBI a indictment was pending on the Clinton Foundation". That was a lie, but google news, and other outlets propagated that lie. 48 hours later, bret baier came out and apologized, saying his information about a "pending indictment was wrong". Rachael Maddow went out of her way to throw "gushing" praise on bret baier for "admitting the mistake". Of course that didn't stop fox network from continuing to spew the lie, along with the trump campaign.


This country is in serious trouble. The FBI interference with the election, and now the very real possibility that a trump administration is trying to interfere with the press coverage.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/21/tv-hosts-executives-gather-in-new-york-for-reset-meeting-with-trump/

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If you don't believe that the television media has been compromised just compare these two (Original Post) still_one Nov 2016 OP
Why are they meeting with him in the first place?! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #1
I agree, it is extremely troublesome. still_one Nov 2016 #2
gotta get their goose-stepping... er, I mean marching orders from the Drumpfurher... Raster Nov 2016 #12
They want to maintain their "access" (ie. ratings) Roland99 Nov 2016 #13
Threadwinner. kairos12 Nov 2016 #17
They thought they were going to discuss press access BainsBane Nov 2016 #16
Secret meetings with the news media en masse is unprecedented and frightening workinclasszero Nov 2016 #26
No, they should try to keep the White House transparent. Hortensis Nov 2016 #27
The 24/7 networks will be his puppies liberal N proud Nov 2016 #3
Its been decades of attacking the Clintons BSdetect Nov 2016 #4
I suspect he is telling them if they want press access, "they better be nice" still_one Nov 2016 #5
This is exactly what he is saying. TrekLuver Nov 2016 #6
Hopefully, the written media and the social media, including places like this, will prevent still_one Nov 2016 #7
I'm 100% sure there will be pushback n/t TrekLuver Nov 2016 #11
he is dumbing down the people bdamomma Nov 2016 #18
CNN had two of his plants on continuously underpants Nov 2016 #8
yes they did still_one Nov 2016 #10
is Lord that horrible stupid woman who kept justifying all Don does? wordpix Nov 2016 #20
No. this guy. underpants Nov 2016 #23
Excellent post malaise Nov 2016 #9
Yep. Sadly obvious. lonestarnot Nov 2016 #14
Another chapter in the story of the medias downward spiral. democrank Nov 2016 #15
I found this please e mail or call these news outlets bdamomma Nov 2016 #19
Don directed his ire at CNN? They constantly aired pundit panels with both sides wordpix Nov 2016 #21
I believe the years of spray tanning have done damage to his brain. n/t TrekLuver Nov 2016 #25
It's pretty clear that access will be dependent on lapdog behavior. mn9driver Nov 2016 #22
THIS 2naSalit Nov 2016 #24
AM hate radio did this. 40 years of their "liberal media" bullshit. Initech Nov 2016 #28
I wonder which institution he will target next? lark Nov 2016 #29

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
1. Why are they meeting with him in the first place?!
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:39 AM
Nov 2016

The fact that they agreed to such a meeting reeks of collusion to me!

If anything, they (and Comey) screwed Hillary Clinton with their non-stop private e-mail server nonsense.

Meanwhile, Trump had a gazillion scandals, but each one was forgotten as a new one came along. Then the Trump scandal reports dropped off in the final week as Comey's supposed "reopening" of the e-mail investigation received lots of coverage.

The majority of voters who decided in the final week voted for Trump according to exit polls.

Many Americans have very short attention spans or they don't really pay attention until the end! I see that same behavior in sports when some team that recently played a good game is suddenly catapulted, in the eyes of many, above a team that crushed them a few games earlier.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. Secret meetings with the news media en masse is unprecedented and frightening
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 01:12 PM
Nov 2016

Business as usual in a banana republic or tin horn dictatorship no doubt.

So which one is the USA now, post Dumpf?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. No, they should try to keep the White House transparent.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 01:15 PM
Nov 2016

Reporting on it is their job, journalism their purpose, not warfare. Decent working relationships are imperative, and meetings are entirely appropriate.

But otherwise I agree entirely with the gist of this thread. TV/cable coverage has already long been badly corrupted by focus on profits, and journalistic principles were discarded a long time ago now. Trump's victory is in large part their for-profit creation, and they're not going to commit corporate and personal suicide to suddenly perform their proper role in society.

To be informed, people must read the news reported by media that still engage in investigative journalism.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
4. Its been decades of attacking the Clintons
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:52 AM
Nov 2016

But who would have guessed the MSM would be so compliant to a fascist fuckwit.

They have helped propel a liar thief idiot to power.

Fuck them all.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
6. This is exactly what he is saying.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:59 AM
Nov 2016

We are going to have no idea what the hell is going on in the White House and with this depraved individual.

still_one

(92,216 posts)
7. Hopefully, the written media and the social media, including places like this, will prevent
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:03 AM
Nov 2016

complete censorship

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
18. he is dumbing down the people
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 12:16 PM
Nov 2016

very dangerous for the citizens of the united divided states. very disturbing.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
21. Don directed his ire at CNN? They constantly aired pundit panels with both sides
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 12:24 PM
Nov 2016

represented. So he's saying that CNN's having both sides discuss issues is not fair or accurate?
Trump is heading toward a despotic reign for sure.

mn9driver

(4,426 posts)
22. It's pretty clear that access will be dependent on lapdog behavior.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 12:27 PM
Nov 2016

And the overwhelming majority of print and broadcast media cares about money, not their role as a check on abusive power.

This perfect storm has been a long time in the making. The fascists are not going to waste the opportunity. Most of the press will become collaborators, because that will be where the money is.

lark

(23,105 posts)
29. I wonder which institution he will target next?
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 01:31 PM
Nov 2016

Will it be the judiciary or the constitution itself? I think it's judiciary then the constitution, in that order. Ethics laws are already rendered nonsensical, he's blatantly using the office to sell his plans to other countries, plans that benefit him and not the country. Everything he's proposed is very anti-worker and very pro oligarchs. Bye bye America, hello Nazis.

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