I have long believed in karma.

[kentuck]

If we permit our thoughts to think of something besides that which troubles us, karma is more free to act in a desirable manner, in my opinion.

For example, if we were to think of a big blue marble and very still mountain lake, we could see what happens when we toss the marble into the middle of the lake. The waves would spread outward until they gently lapped the edges of the lake. The reflections in the lake would shimmer as the waves spread outward from the marble hitting the water. In less than a minute, the lake would return to its quiet and still nature, awaiting the next interruption in its natural state.

Perhaps a seagull would fly over and a crow would caw from the top of a distant pine tree?

Then silence.

Karma is waiting on those that would create dissension and division within our people.

[KatyMan]

1. Karma is like thoughts and prayers:

Useless. Might be satisfying and a good coping mechanism on a personal level, but the thought that there is a force out there that metes out justice is pretty silly.

[kentuck]

3. When justice arrives...

we can always attribute it to nothing more than coincidence. Then our belief system is not disturbed. We have the right to believe whatever we wish. You don't have to agree. In fact, you can vehemently disagree, so long as it doesn't resort to violence

[KatyMan]

4. I don't disagree,

and your reply is spot on, but from my point of view, relying on some nebulous thought or belief that justice will eventually be served is a pie in the sky belief; Stalin died in his bed. No overarching retribution occurred, he was a horrible person that did horrible things, lived quite comfortably and died at 74. Where was karma then?
I understand your quite Buddhistic point, and I also understand that from your point of view my desire for justice in real time is wrong thinking, and causes unrest in my own (personal) mind, and that vengeance is anti ethical (although I don't call for vengeance, as that leads to violence, which I abhor as much as I assume you do).
I don't know, maybe I would like for karma to be real, and just for once act in humanity's favor in real time and deliver a better world for us.

Or maybe I just need to spend more time learning to drink with the butchers than actually drinking with the butchers!

[kentuck]

5. Thanks for the thoughtful comments.

But I would not say that it is something that we should"rely" upon. It is something that may or may not happen. Call it fate. Call it circumstance. Call it karma. Whatever?

But the idea is that it is there and could happen if the stars were in a good position.

Thoughts are energy.

[KatyMan]

8. Great post.

We reach. I've become such a cynic that I forget the beauty of the simple, realistic and humanistic approach to reality.

On edit: "that the universe will unfold as it should"

[saltpoint]

2. Thoughtful, insightful, and very well

written post, kentuck.

I am picturing a room of Trump transition people reading a copy of your post. There's Katrina Pierson, who says, "What the hell is he even talking about? Crows? Seagulls?"

There's Steve Bannon, who answers Pierson, saying, "I can live with the crows and the seagulls. It's minorities and women I don't abide."

Melania pipes in from the adjoining suite, asking them to keep the noise level down, please, as they are disrupting the zen zone she's creating to smear fish eggs all over Baron.

Baron himself says little, likely owing to his being autistic, which we read about on the internet so it must be true.

The phone rings. It's Mitt Romney. He promises as Secretary of State he would do to other nations what he did to vulnerable businesses stateside -- gut them, ignore the contributions of the workers or their plights after the plant closes, and sell the remaining valuable parts to other greed hog capitalists.

"Tell Mitt he's a total asshole," Kellyanne Conway states with a studied petulance. "He hurt our feelings during the campaign and now he must be crushed."

(etc)

[trof]

6. Excellent. Should be an OP.

[Me.]

7. Finally

Something upon which we agree. I am waiting, though it's said you can't determine how it will be delivered so best to leave it alone.

[kentuck]

9. kick....

for more positive energy and faith in the future.