My awful date with Trump: The real story of nightmare evening w/ a callow but cash-less heir

[kpete]

He was nice looking, not handsome, but nice. Preppy. Normal. Not a conversationalist, but neither was I. I didn’t think he was very bright.

The check came but the restaurant didn’t take credit cards. My date couldn’t pay for the dinner. This was the first thing I could relate to all evening. Me, Jewish girl, independent but not too, always had bad-date, worst-case-scenario, awkward-situation, get-home money.

So, my big shot, Cadillac, phone-in-convertible boring date couldn’t pay for dinner. He was stunned and embarrassed. I said, “Let’s get aprons and do the dishes. It would be fun.” His face was horror-stricken. He was flustered. Relax, I have the money. Oh, thank God. He swore he’d pay me back tomorrow so many times that I thought it not likely.

He never did. That may tell you something about my date with Donald Trump.

Should he get to the White House, I would love to be paid back with interest. If he doesn’t get to the White House, I consider this story enough of a payback.



Much more:
http://www.salon.com/2017/01/01/my-awful-date-with-donald-trump-the-real-story-of-a-nightmare-evening-with-a-callow-but-cash-less-heir/

[smirkymonkey]

1. Nothing shocks me about this man anymore.

He is so despicable. What a scumbag!

[CrispyQ]

2. "Get home money."

Something most guys don't relate to. I was young & single before cell phones. My friends & I always carried change for pay phones & enough cash for cab fare home. And we always had one friend who waited up until you called that you were home safe. I too used my 'get home money' to pay for dinner once, when a young man's credit card was declined. He was a decent guy & paid me back.

[MineralMan]

6. My father always had a $100 bill tucked away in his wallet.

I've always followed his lead and do the same thing. It's an emergency stash. I've had to use it a few times, too. When I do have to use it, I replace it as soon as possible.

I can't imagine a rich guy that doesn't have a couple of hundred bucks in cash tucked away in his wallet. Trump had the money on that date. He's just a cheapjack. He's always looking to make others pay. He's an asshole.

[11 Bravo]

11. I do the same thing. I've carried a Benjamin tucked into ...

a secret compartment in my wallet for years.

[newblewtoo]

13. Ah yes, the ole secret compartment...

it held a condom in high school, a C-Note in the service, and a single pack Viagra today.

[yuiyoshida]

12. Back in the day, a 20 dollar bill could take you anywhere in the city via cab

with a little change to spare for a tip. I used to wedge a twenty dollar bill into the toe of my platforms, in a little slit that was already there. It was a great way to have some emergency money if I went out and got stuck some where. Often times I had a twenty in each foot, just in case.

One time a guy and I had dinner together during a rainy night in San Francisco. He and I ended the meal with an argument, and it was his car I came in. He promptly told me to Fuck off and left. I used the 20 to pay for the dinner and the other twenty to get home. It was money well spent.

[MADem]

20. My parents had a name for that: "MAD MONEY."

If you got mad at your date, you were never stuck where you didn't want to be.

They were very egaliatarian about that, too--it applied to all children regardless of gender. You always needed a little "folding" tucked away for "just in case."


No one could understand nowadays that the pocketful of change WAS the "cellphone" of the day, either! Of course, ya had to find a payphone, but unless you were calling collect, you needed those dimes (or later, quarters) to connect!

[CrispyQ]

24. And pay phones were everywhere!

Just about every gas station had one in the parking lot. Big grocery stores had 2-3 at the front of the store & airports had banks of them!

[malaise]

32. Same here

Always have emergency money

[Bayard]

3. Well, that's a tasty little tidbit!

So.......he's been like this from Day 1.

[Cracklin Charlie]

4. Kick

[MineralMan]

5. I have no doubt that Trump has stuck many people

with the check in a restaurant. I've known guys like him. Somehow, they never have any money to pay for stuff. They get you to pay for it, promise to pay you back, but never get around to doing that.

Here's a tip for people who find themselves in that position: Pay for your own meal. When the check comes and the other person won't pay, even though it's really that person's responsibility to pay, just pay for your own meal. Then, leave. You'll discover that the person who tried to stick you with the check actually does have the money to pay. He or she is just a cheapjack.

Even better, settle this before ordering: "Who's picking up the check for this?" If it's going to be you, and it shouldn't be, go home without ordering. Date over.

I've never encountered this on a date, since I'm a stand-up guy and am always ready to pay if I've asked someone to dinner. I have been faced with it in the business world, though. Someone wants to discuss something over lunch and asks me to meet him somewhere. In business, the one who suggests meeting for lunch pays. I got stuck with the check once, and never again. "You want to meet for lunch? Who's paying?" That settles it. If the person wanting the meeting expects me to be the one paying, no lunch meeting is going to happen. I'll meet that person at his office instead. If it's me asking someone to meet me for lunch, I'll be paying, but not the other way around.

If you ask someone out for a meal, expect to pay. You made the invitation. Even if you have a wallet full of credit cards, you should also have cash to cover the meals. Either that, or check in advance to find out it the place takes plastic. You don't stick your guest with the check. However, if you have to do that for some unusual reason, you pay them back, like immediately.

But, if someone does that to your, pay for your own meal and leave. Let the other person work out how to pay for his or her meal. You're not going to want to deal with a cheapjack again, anyhow. Screw 'em. When you say, "I'll have the chicken," you're ordering for yourself, so you're liable for the cost. Ask for a separate check if your cheapjack host won't pay. Pay and leave, and you're home free. There's a lesson for the other person to learn.

[LittleGirl]

14. That's an excellent idea MM. eom

[MineralMan]

27. Well, that's how I'd do it, anyhow.

I'm an old-fashioned geezer, so I think I've probably paid for every dinner date I've been on. I can't imagine doing something like sticking a date with the check. Ugh!

I know that people often do things differently now in the world of dating, but I'm pretty old school that way. If I asked someone out, I always paid for whatever we did. And no obligation of any kind was expected, ever. I wasn't raised that way.

[malaise]

16. Narcissists believe that

you should pay for the privilege of being with them/doing business with them - he has actually said that to persons he stiffed

[MineralMan]

23. I suppose so. I try not to get involved with

narcissists. In my circle of friends, everyone either pays his or her own way or we fight over grabbing the check to pay it. Usually, everyone pays for their own meals, though, although we generally divide the check and tip up evenly if there's just one check.

It's rare now that I do lunch or dinner meetings with business associates or clients. It used to be a lot more frequent, though. I don't remember a lot of conflicts over picking up the check, though. Generally whoever sets up the meeting picks it up, though. Either that, or the person who benefits most from the meeting or the person who has an expense account usually grabs it.

I'm a cheap business date, actually. I typically order something light for such meetings. A BLT is my standard lunch order, and every place makes those, so I don't have to stare at a menu. For dinner, I order something that won't spill on my shirt and is easy to eat without a lot of fuss. After all, the reason for the meeting is to get something accomplished. The food's just a formality, really. And I never have more than one drink or glass of wine.

I'm easy. And as an old married guy, I haven't been on a date with someone I don't know intimately for a very long time. My wife and I often go out with other couples, but that's always a separate check sort of thing.

[malaise]

28. We hang out with regulars so it's easy

If it's a birthday, the rest of the group pays. Otherwise we split the bill and someone tips. No one says it but next time someone else tips. We've been hanging out close to 40 years. There are no mean folks in our group. We know if someone has medical expenses or issues related to a home or children/grandchildren and someone will say they're treating that couple up front.

[MineralMan]

29. Yup. That's how friends do things.

I'll bet it's a lot of fun hanging out with your friends, too!

[malaise]

31. Yep loads of fun

We're genuine friends - heard one of the kids saying recently that they hope they have friends like ours. This was after one of the group lost a sibling and everyone rallied around her. We may not speak with one another for two or three weeks - but we just have to hear that something is wrong and everyone is there.

[frankieallen]

19. you need new friends, I don't know anyone who would do that.

[MineralMan]

22. Such people aren't friends.

I'm 71 years old. I've had all sorts of experiences in that time. So will you, if you live that long.

[Maeve]

7. Not only small hands, he also has alligator arms!

Too short to reach the check....

[MADem]

21. LOL--they need to put a cotton-candy wig on that alligator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maeve]

26. Gaelic Storm did it first

[MADem]

30. LOL! nt

[KamaAina]

8. Rejected by a Jewish girl, eh?

Could that have been the beginning of the road that led to Bannon?

[cwydro]

9. This comes as no surprise to me.

Especially the part where she says she didn't think he was too bright lol.

[tanyev]

10. I hope she's ready for the hate tsunami that's headed her way.

[pansypoo53219]

15. this is how the rich get richer. pay? maybe if she had had sex w/ h. maybe then she'd get paid back.

[canetoad]

17. Planning and forethought

Or DFT's lack thereoff.

This obviously happened many years ago, before credit cards were ubiquitous. Wouldn't a sensible person check beforehand that the restaurant accepted them?

[PatSeg]

18. I've dated guys like that

It was never more than one date and they were terribly forgettable.

[Demonaut]

25. real nightmare...this story is empty of depth