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Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:06 AM Jan 2017

A turning point in history. You can feel it in your bones.

I realize this may seem rather obvious given recent events in the news of the last year, but I feel it needs to be said anyway, I think we are at potentially another pivotal moment in history. I should clarify that by history I mean on a multi decadedal to single century time span. And by turning point I mean the founding of what later will be seen in hindsight as a distinct era, marked by a flavour a specific zeitgeist. In the past such periods have often been demarcated by wars, WWI and II come vividly to mind, they so heavily influenced and gave colour to the period of the 1910s to 20s, ushered in the roaring 20s which in turn led to the great depression. WW2 of course ushered in the immense expansion of the US as a super power and the global economic "mircale" and "peaceful" 50s and 60s. Not all such periods need be dominated by a war though and I'm not suggesting that we are necessarily on the brink of something of that scale. It's certainly possible mind you.

I'm 34 and have grown up during one of the longest periods of global peace and prosperity in any modern time. Relatively speaking. Looking back on my life the 80s and 90s that marked my childhood were rather "boring" decades. Boring of course is good in this context, and of course subjective, they were anything but boring seeing the explosive rise of technology as it transformed our modern culture and ways of fundamental human interaction. Boring in this case is merely a synonym for relative global stability. That stability was shook and tested on 9-11 and ushered in what we might want to call the decades of "terrorism". Not in the sense that they were dominated by actual acts of terrorism but more the media driven fear of them and the perpetual war in the middle East the US has been embroiled in as a result. I would argue too that it ushered in the modern era of news as entertainment that has in turn led us to the precipice we stand in front of now.

We can of course only see such events clearly in hind sight. None of us are actually clairvoyant. But as I said in the title and as I'm sure many will agree. I can feel it in my bones that we are in for change, for a bumpy ride, possibly for something we have not seen in more than a generation. If that sounds vague and wishy washy that's because it's meant to be. But there just seems to me to be too many convergent streams of turmoil and instability for the apple cart NOT to be upended.

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A turning point in history. You can feel it in your bones. (Original Post) Locut0s Jan 2017 OP
Among the celebrity deaths of 2016 there was the death of a sovereign nation. gordianot Jan 2017 #1
I fear the same... Locut0s Jan 2017 #2
we are living in an exceptional world. kentuck Jan 2017 #3
I Feel It too colsohlibgal Jan 2017 #4
I think it's worse than any time in history because of climate change. jalan48 Jan 2017 #5
It feels like a planetary turning point to me. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #6

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
1. Among the celebrity deaths of 2016 there was the death of a sovereign nation.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:16 AM
Jan 2017

We all know it happened but do not want to admit it or talk about it.

Locut0s

(6,154 posts)
2. I fear the same...
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:33 AM
Jan 2017

I'm not yet willing to call time of death though. But the patient has never been this close before and it's unprecedented.

kentuck

(111,106 posts)
3. we are living in an exceptional world.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:43 AM
Jan 2017

Those born after 1930 are exceptions to the general rule for living in the American society. No period of American history has had it so well. The struggle for survival has never been less complex. No other generations had Social Security, Medicare, food stamps, worker rights, or any type of healthcare. The wealthy always had the power in the past. It now seems the
people are dying to return to those good old days?

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
4. I Feel It too
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jan 2017

This is an ominous turn of events....I have serious doubts that he really won but here we are.

I have "The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich" on DVD, I think I may rewatch it today to see similarities. Hitler's 1000 year run got stopped after 13 years or so but it cost lots of cash, lives, and upheaval.

This is uncharted territory, strap in, we are in for a bumpy ride.

jalan48

(13,873 posts)
5. I think it's worse than any time in history because of climate change.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:55 AM
Jan 2017

We can't "fix" climate problems with a few changes to our laws. It's too late. Even if we stopped burning fossil fuels today the effects will be felt for centuries.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
6. It feels like a planetary turning point to me.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jan 2017

Trump and the GOP
Brexit
Greek and Italian economic crises and a growing refugee problem are destabilizing the EU
A resurgence of authoritarianism around the globe
Chinese air, soil and water pollution
The death of the Arctic from global warming
The death of stable Northern Hemisphere weather patterns as a consequence of Arctic melting
The death of the world's oceans from heating and acidification
Fresh water crises spreading
The Sixth Great Extinction due to habitat disruption by an expanding human load on the biosphere

All these are coming to a head simultaneously. The next 30 years are going to be ... um ... interesting.

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