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Is this thing on? Why are there no stories in the media about this? How Russians funded Trump.. (Original Post) HipChick Jan 2017 OP
KGOP needs to change its name: RussianPublicans Achilleaze Jan 2017 #1
I'm stealing that ... AirmensMom Jan 2017 #63
Well, I stole (borrowed) is too from the UNKNOWN DUer Achilleaze Jan 2017 #70
Manchurian candidate indeed! Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #2
man'chzhurskiy kandidat milestogo Jan 2017 #6
Love it! Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #7
The Moscovian Candidate... blue neen Jan 2017 #55
K&R... spanone Jan 2017 #3
I think there is more sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #4
Yes, I see pieces of the Trump Russia puzzle all over the place but not connected yet. Time riversedge Jan 2017 #29
Logic 101 says that we will NEVER find proof .. ananda Jan 2017 #37
Proof Roy Rolling Jan 2017 #64
Because the Russians dictate our media too...they are duplicitous. nt LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #5
Start studying, comrade ghostsinthemachine Jan 2017 #8
I took Russian in college greymattermom Jan 2017 #17
K&R nt lillypaddle Jan 2017 #9
Of course it is. pangaia Jan 2017 #10
It was a coup. Botany Jan 2017 #11
I remember asking during the campaign if all his talk about the system being rigged malaise Jan 2017 #49
Same here. we can do it Jan 2017 #56
I think you're right about the Russians hacking into voter bases in key states brush Jan 2017 #65
"The hits" were targeted Botany Jan 2017 #69
I've long believed this.... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #12
Hilary had to go...Hillary was standing between Putin and $1.2 trillion HipChick Jan 2017 #13
How dirty overseas money flowed into Trump and eventually into his presidential campaign Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 #14
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #15
Dirty money: Trump and the Kazakh connection FT probe finds evidence a Trump venture has links to... Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 #16
Just read Khan's twitter feed. He does a great job. But it sure looks like there's enough KittyWampus Jan 2017 #18
I could scratch my head Plucketeer Jan 2017 #19
The problem is that any Justice Dept move on Trump will now look like a coup Respectful Debate Jan 2017 #28
That may well be Plucketeer Jan 2017 #33
good point-- I often wonder if there was a deep conspiracy on the part of many in the govt Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #40
This really bothers me. LisaM Jan 2017 #44
What about Ivanka traveling to Croatia, leaving a newborn behind, to "vacation" with Putin's secondwind Jan 2017 #20
Trump uses couriers. vanlassie Jan 2017 #42
Answer - power and greed. lark Jan 2017 #21
Has the media been taken over by the Russian's too? Is this part of the "One World Government"? jalan48 Jan 2017 #22
yeah, it really makes you wonder what they are up to... Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #39
Karla has done himself proud. jeffreyi Jan 2017 #23
I'm enjoying your reference... Ilsa Jan 2017 #34
Drumpf is a "fence" for the 2naSalit Jan 2017 #24
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2017 #25
Cannot quite believe the Russians thought Trump would win flamingdem Jan 2017 #26
Trump has spent years building his fanbase sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #32
Yeah, right. All these Russian connections being revealed and you post that? Enjoy your stay. brush Jan 2017 #66
I've been here since Sarah Palin.. sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #67
Still, all these connections to Russian interference in our election and you attribute the trump ... brush Jan 2017 #71
People are stupid. sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #72
It smelled fishy from the get-go IntraPolitico Jan 2017 #27
kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #30
Citizens United made foreign contributions legal. It's in the dissenting opinion. McCamy Taylor Jan 2017 #31
K & R LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #35
Do you remember when at the beginning of his campaign they were mfcorey1 Jan 2017 #36
OMG, yes-- I forgot about that Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #38
knr triron Jan 2017 #41
K & R with the knowledge that understanding is the booby prize. Now what. ancianita Jan 2017 #43
Imagine if this had been Hilary.. HipChick Jan 2017 #45
The "media" wants access to the King. Vinca Jan 2017 #46
Be careful! So far this is from a Twitter post which is NOT NEWS. Kablooie Jan 2017 #47
Actually if you read, The Financial Times is a newspaper which has published some articles HipChick Jan 2017 #52
Point well worth making. But I googled a few names and they fit. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #57
Too many Russian tentacles coming from everywhere for this to just be a coincidence. brush Jan 2017 #68
I want ta thank ya! coco22 Jan 2017 #48
Truth will out malaise Jan 2017 #50
The Cliinton Machine KNEW this and refused to bonniebgood Jan 2017 #51
Who can read THAT. Does no one know how to write and present information in a linear, logical Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2017 #53
It's Twitter. And it actually gives someone an incentive to start googling and investigating KittyWampus Jan 2017 #58
hahah- thats funny! More like an incentive to ignore. Theres a reason vast Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2017 #73
One problem is that so many don't know what to believe anymore War Horse Jan 2017 #54
Yes, I remember how W liked Putin as well NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #60
This guy, Adam Khan is finding things the MSM can't or won't. Please donate Maraya1969 Jan 2017 #59
Influence-peddling alarimer Jan 2017 #61
God! Putin's girlfriend introduced Ivanka to her now husband. The whole family . . . brush Jan 2017 #62

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. KGOP needs to change its name: RussianPublicans
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jan 2017

The Republicans and their ethical role model, Tax-&-Draft Dodger-in-Chief Comrade Casino (R) are engaged in wholesale treason against America and the American people.


sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
4. I think there is more
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:43 AM
Jan 2017

Eventually we will find proof they can't brush away. I see more all the time but can't connect the dots yet. Trump is as dirty as it gets.

riversedge

(70,259 posts)
29. Yes, I see pieces of the Trump Russia puzzle all over the place but not connected yet. Time
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:23 PM
Jan 2017

is our friend I believe.

ananda

(28,868 posts)
37. Logic 101 says that we will NEVER find proof ..
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 03:55 PM
Jan 2017

.. that they can't brush away because they literally
hold all three branches of government.

Roy Rolling

(6,925 posts)
64. Proof
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:35 AM
Jan 2017

In the world of today, the proof will be the absence of something.

As in, "New York City was NOT attacked by Godzilla today. Trump being president scared him away from Manhattan."

I can't wait to see what concrete case they try to build on a foundation of air.

Botany

(70,533 posts)
11. It was a coup.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:45 AM
Jan 2017

I am begining to understand more of the moving parts now because
Russia was not only spreading dirt on HRC along w/fake news but they
also were hacking into key states voter d-bases and with that knowledge
"they" were able to target the # of voters that needed to be suppressed
or votes that were needed to be flipped.

Trump and McConnell had knowledge of these actions too.

This info on Russia owning Trump makes more and more sense.

malaise

(269,093 posts)
49. I remember asking during the campaign if all his talk about the system being rigged
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 08:48 PM
Jan 2017

was because he was going to rig it.

Still I didn't think he'd win.

brush

(53,797 posts)
65. I think you're right about the Russians hacking into voter bases in key states
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:37 AM
Jan 2017

Remember late in the campaign trump diverted his plane to Wisconsin and even the pundits were wondering why he would fly suddenly to a traditionally blue state at such a late stage in the campaign.

Bet he was steered to do that to make it look like his late campaign appearances swayed the voters needed to win their electoral college votes.

Something smells big time. It was too precise — someone figured out that 80k votes out of millions cast could swing the election and they made it happen.

Comey's letter was also part of it, maybe a diversion to make it seem his treachery was the reason and not the suddenly red blue states.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
14. How dirty overseas money flowed into Trump and eventually into his presidential campaign
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jan 2017





How dirty overseas money flowed into Trump and eventually into his presidential campaign @SamSanderson123 @summerbrennan @Suburb_Flamingo

https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur/status/806710458686140416


 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
16. Dirty money: Trump and the Kazakh connection FT probe finds evidence a Trump venture has links to...
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jan 2017
Dirty money: Trump and the Kazakh connection
FT probe finds evidence a Trump venture has links to alleged laundering network



OCTOBER 19, 2016 by: Tom Burgis
Ever since a series of bankruptcies left banks unwilling to lend to him, Donald Trump has been on the lookout for partners willing to fund the buildings that bear his name.

Over the years the US presidential candidate has assembled an eclectic collection of backers and collaborators. Some had chequered pasts, with links to organised crime or fraud schemes. But perhaps the biggest risk for Mr Trump’s complex, often opaque, business empire was that it might be used for a purpose US officials fear is rife in the country’s real estate sector: laundering dirty money.

A Financial Times investigation has found evidence that one Trump venture has multiple ties to an alleged international money laundering network. Title deeds, bank records and correspondence show that a Kazakh family accused of laundering hundreds of millions of stolen dollars bought luxury apartments in a Manhattan tower part-owned by Mr Trump and embarked on major business ventures with one of the tycoon’s partners.

As Mr Trump runs for the White House, the revelations raise questions about what steps his business takes to ensure that the funds that pour through it are clean.

Jennifer Shasky Calvery, then director of the US Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, warned in January that “corrupt foreign officials, or transnational criminals, may be using premium US real estate to secretly invest millions in dirty money”.


https://www.ft.com/content/33285dfa-9231-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a923


Financial TimesVerified account
‏@FT
How Donald Trump's property empire is linked to a Kazakh family accused of laundering hundreds of millions http://on.ft.com/2ekilsj



https://twitter.com/FT/status/788716340991389697
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
18. Just read Khan's twitter feed. He does a great job. But it sure looks like there's enough
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jan 2017

of a money trail that Obama should have moved already.

In fact, it looks like something should have been done before the election.

Which leads me to wonder wtf is wrong with him or his Intelligence advisors.

It does not make sense that this much is readily known but we only now learn about it after the election.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
19. I could scratch my head
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:18 PM
Jan 2017

until my hair's worn off! Where the HELL is our justice system on this? We had a PHONY election and NO ONE seems to care!

28. The problem is that any Justice Dept move on Trump will now look like a coup
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:16 PM
Jan 2017

Even though Trump winning was the actual coup

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
33. That may well be
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 03:10 PM
Jan 2017

But unless a real dust up is made about it, we won't be able to provoke the GOP into confessing they're in favor of TREASON. They've completely aligned themselves with the treasonous bastard who cheated to get where he's at. Holder, Lynch - they've been USELESS from where I sit.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
40. good point-- I often wonder if there was a deep conspiracy on the part of many in the govt
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 04:10 PM
Jan 2017

to install Trump. Certainly FBI involved. Intel community could've hid info from Obama.

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
44. This really bothers me.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 05:08 PM
Jan 2017

Something should have been done before the election. Now we are all screwed. And for what?

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
20. What about Ivanka traveling to Croatia, leaving a newborn behind, to "vacation" with Putin's
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jan 2017

girlfriend? [Wendy Deng, ex-wife of Rupert Murdoch, and rumored to be dating Putin]

This "vacation" was short... 3-4 days...

lark

(23,134 posts)
21. Answer - power and greed.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jan 2017

The MSM is owned by the billionaire class and corporations and they think drumpf will increase the wealth of the rich, so they are OK with giving Russia the world as long as they get theirs as well,

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
39. yeah, it really makes you wonder what they are up to...
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 04:02 PM
Jan 2017

do they have a long term plan or only care about short term profits from Trump?

jeffreyi

(1,943 posts)
23. Karla has done himself proud.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jan 2017

Where's Smiley when we need him?
Turn about is fair play, say the Russians. They will gloat over our demise just as we did when the USSR fell apart. We never stooped to meddling in elections or internal politics, did we?

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
34. I'm enjoying your reference...
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 03:14 PM
Jan 2017

Hopefully we won't fall apart, but it may take time for all of the US to start working together for the good of all its citizens.

2naSalit

(86,673 posts)
24. Drumpf is a "fence" for the
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jan 2017

Russian oligarchy/thieves, laundering their dirty $$ for them in trade for what he now sees as the emperor's throne. Such a sad and dimwitted troll puppet.

And at least half the government in the US of A and nearly all* of the media are complicit.


* The exception being independent news sources that are verifiable such Democracy Now and other similar news outlets.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
26. Cannot quite believe the Russians thought Trump would win
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:12 PM
Jan 2017

If they did they know a hell of a lot more than 99 percent of our pundits.

Rather I think that they got damn lucky. But after I read all of this maybe
I will change my mind.

brush

(53,797 posts)
66. Yeah, right. All these Russian connections being revealed and you post that? Enjoy your stay.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jan 2017

And isn't your screen name a little too obvious?

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
67. I've been here since Sarah Palin..
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:52 AM
Jan 2017

I give full due to the Russians and their hacks, but stupid morons were watching his dumb shows long before and they ate it up with a spoon.

If I could change my name easily I would. That was over 8 years ago and I didn't think about having to keep it.

brush

(53,797 posts)
71. Still, all these connections to Russian interference in our election and you attribute the trump ...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:18 AM
Jan 2017

win to his reality show from years ago, a show with tanking ratings?

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
72. People are stupid.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jan 2017

If you look at my other posts, you would see I am 100% believing the Russians did everything they could to help him. I think if they actually hacked the voting machines we would've found some sort of proof in those recounts.

I deleted most the people I know on fb because they all bought into the fake news and Trump lies. I had told them over and over how he owes the Russians. They refused to believe me. They see him as the image he pushed on that stupid show and we're too dumb to look at anything else. I told them I had overestimated their morals and intelligence then deleted them all. Stupid people put him in office with encouragement from Russia. 3rd party voters didn't help either.

 

IntraPolitico

(51 posts)
27. It smelled fishy from the get-go
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:15 PM
Jan 2017

Surely the average Trump voter questioned his overt willingness to support an authoritarian dictator, from RUSSIA of all places?? I mean, it's so painfully convenient it must be suspect to questioning.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
31. Citizens United made foreign contributions legal. It's in the dissenting opinion.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jan 2017

Since 2010 we knew this was coming.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
36. Do you remember when at the beginning of his campaign they were
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jan 2017

sending letter to foreign heads of foreign government soliciting funds? Gee these things are connecting. The Sword of Damocles is hanging over Drumpf's head.

Vinca

(50,288 posts)
46. The "media" wants access to the King.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 06:25 PM
Jan 2017

If he kicks a writer of a 20 year old biography off his golf course, do you think he'll allow anyone writing what should be the biggest freaking story of the decade into his White House?

Kablooie

(18,635 posts)
47. Be careful! So far this is from a Twitter post which is NOT NEWS.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 08:27 PM
Jan 2017

It needs to be investigated and if confirmed it would be news but I hope we don't follow Fox News tactics and broadcast every little bit of online slander as fact.

Let's hope this isn't just an invented scandal like the right wing ones.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
57. Point well worth making. But I googled a few names and they fit.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:49 AM
Jan 2017

In the end it's the associations. The many, many associations.

I don't agree with guilt by association. Until it becomes overwhelming.

brush

(53,797 posts)
68. Too many Russian tentacles coming from everywhere for this to just be a coincidence.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jan 2017

Ivanka flying to Croatia, leaving a newborn for 4 days. What was that important that couldn't be shared online or over the phone?

Putin's girlfriend introduced Ivanka to her husband btw.

Trumps campaign plane diverting to blue Wisconsin in the last days of the campaign — blue Wisconsin which suddenly went red with just enough votes to get the EC votes for trump.

Comey's treachery, even though he was in the briefing that the Russians were hacking the Dems, he did nothing but further attacked Hillary with that letter to Congress.

The server in trump tower connected to a Russian bank.

Too many coincidences.

bonniebgood

(943 posts)
51. The Cliinton Machine KNEW this and refused to
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:26 PM
Jan 2017

put it out there because they thought they could win WITHOUT IT. DO anyone think the
Clinton Machine didn't and do know this?

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
53. Who can read THAT. Does no one know how to write and present information in a linear, logical
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jan 2017

fashion anymore?

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
58. It's Twitter. And it actually gives someone an incentive to start googling and investigating
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:50 AM
Jan 2017

for themselves.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
73. hahah- thats funny! More like an incentive to ignore. Theres a reason vast
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 11:10 AM
Jan 2017

nos. of us prefer to get our news and commentary from other places besides social media and OP illustrates that nicely.

War Horse

(931 posts)
54. One problem is that so many don't know what to believe anymore
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jan 2017

and it's compounded by that the fact that those who *do* believe they have all the answers are so secure in their beliefs that there's no getting through to them. And they are the ones who shout the loudest too.

One thing that gets me about right wingers is that they don't understand that this is a win-win for Putin, no matter what. If he can work with a Trump admin, it's great for him. If Trump takes the U.S. down the drain it's an even bigger win.

And another thing that gets me among so many on the Left is that they don't realize that this Putin fetishism on the Right in both the U.S. and parts of Europe has been going for a long time.

Add to that how we in the West treated Russia after the cold war, and you have an even bigger problem.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
60. Yes, I remember how W liked Putin as well
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:26 AM
Jan 2017

called him Pooty Poot and said he looked into his eyes and saw his soul or something like that.

Maraya1969

(22,486 posts)
59. This guy, Adam Khan is finding things the MSM can't or won't. Please donate
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:31 AM
Jan 2017

to him. I follow him and it amazes me how much dirt he uncovers. It must take an awful lot of time and he is doing this all for free.

https://www.gofundme.com/adamkhan/donate?pc=expt_ot_d_exitintent_w_g409_v2&amt=10

brush

(53,797 posts)
62. God! Putin's girlfriend introduced Ivanka to her now husband. The whole family . . .
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:24 AM
Jan 2017

is in bed with the Russians.

This all smells like crazy. Russian tentacles are are protruding from everywhere.

Wonder who introduced trump to Melania?

Seems the Russians have been courting him with money and compliments to his ego for years.

Have we become a wholly owned subsidiary of Putin's Russia?

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