Coal Country Trump Voters Scared that Obamacare will be Taken Away

[JI7]

what a horrible situation these people are in. and as angry as i have been at them for voting for Trump it's still fucked up to take away their health care and other benefits from the problems caused working in this industry.

[Cha]

1. Contact your Congress People, miners!

[sheshe2]

9. I agree, Cha. Contact your Congress people.

I am so sorry we all will lose it. I am on it as well. Yet they voted for him.

Breaks my heart that they voted for 20 million to lose their healthcare, including themselves.

[Cha]

12. It's surreal, she.. we are living in Serling's and Orwell's world now..

Thanks Rod, Thanks George. They were just warning us, though..

[sheshe2]

19. Yeah well...

I might make the 10 months until Medicare kicks in. Yet they are inter connected. One falls the other will be hurting and so will we all. People that voted for trump voted at a minimum 20 million to die slow agonizing deaths.

LOL. I also read that the market will crash trying to take care of the uninsured that will inundate our ERs. I have nurses in my family they and the doctors said this will be devastating for all. The hospitals are in no way prepared to take care of the masses that are incoming. They to will fall.

[SharonAnn]

40. Hospitals already failing in East TN because of no medicaid expansion. Worse is coming.

[Jim Beard]

106. You will make it. I was around when Reagan changed Social Security.........

and they make the changes to the younger people. That way there isn't as much opposition. At that time, they had "Notch Babies" that were born in 4 years that they stair stepped down.

[ffr]

17. That's because they're self centered. I have no room in my heart for their plight.

Just as they voted against all of our best interests out of spite for us, democrats, average Americans and Americans of non-white heritage.

I'm suppose to jump in behind them, in defense of the care that they need, but it was their self centered stupidity and hatred of democrats and bigotry that I cannot forgive.

I hope they feel the pain, the severe pain that THEY helped cause for the rest of us. We went out of our way. We donated our time to get HRC elected for every American. I and others didn't do it for just ourselves, we sacrificed for a better America for everyone. We don't think in terms of I and me. Not for my needs only and screw everyone else! Elevate EVERYONE!

They were hoodwinked into falling for the same old election rhetoric. How stupid do you have to be to fall for it time and time again, over and over and over. NO!

They wronged the rest of us, deeply and for generations to come!!! They need to right the wrong that is the mess we're now in because of their self centered foolishness. They can kiss my a$$!!!

[sheshe2]

20. I just posted to Cha above...

Read that please.

Many people are going to die. We need to stop them. The GOP is unleashing a tsunami that will take us out. It will be out of control in a minute.

[ffr]

60. Many people are going to die, is very true. You, me and them. I'm covered by ACA too.

I'm not attacking your position, as much as I'm showing the cynical hypocrisy of the tRump voters in the video that are dependent on democratic social safety nets and yet they voted to gut them out of spite for the rest of us. Fuck them!

[sheshe2]

65. Agreed,ffr.

[MineralMan]

69. Yes. But part of the way to stop them is for people

to stop voting for the very people who will take their healthcare away. We can't vote for the coal miners in WV, PA and other places. They have to vote there. They did, but they voted for the very people who are now trying to kill them.

Democrats don't like coal mining. So, they shun the people who do that terrible job. We ignore people who work in industries we don't like, and they respond by voting against us. That's no surprise. We make bad jokes about people who live in West Virginia and other coal mining states. We don't care about them because they work in an industry that pollutes the environment.

We really need to change our message as Democrats. We don't explain things well to people. Then, we are surprised when they vote for Republicans.

Burning coal sucks. But that's the industry that feeds those people. We need an answer for them that makes sense.

[yardwork]

96. Hillary had an excellent plan that made sense.

Unfortunately, many people never heard of Hollary's plans because the media didn't cover it and too many voters believed the lies that dropped into their Facebook feeds.

I disagree that Democrats ignore working people. We ARE working people. It's difficult to refute the lies, though. And there were so many lies about Hillary.

She had a good plan to expand renewable energy - would have created a lot of green jobs.

[dionysus]

27. You want these vuys to die of vlack lung because they voted stupidly?

[maxrandb]

49. How the fuck else do you get through to them?

I mean...FUCK!!!

It's not like they were walking down the street one day, tripped, fell into a voting booth and accidentally hit their head on the Trump button!!!

We have fucking Republican unchallenged control all over this fucking country for one simple reason...REPUBLICANS AND THEIR VOTERS HAVE FACED NO FUCKING CONSEQUENCES. In fact, if you look at the number of political seats they've won, not only have they faced no fucking consequences... they've BEEN FUCKING REWARDED!!

Did they suffer any defeats or consequences for

- Racist Birther shit?

- Lock-Step Obstruction?

- 24/7 Hate-Radio broadcasts in 90% blue cities?

- Calling the First Lady an "Ape in heals"?

and the list could go on and on and on

Maybe when Cooter has to reach into his pocket to buy a bottle of Kilt Castle Scotch to stop his dads pain and suffering, he'll get a fucking clue.

It's cruel, heartless and wrong, but the Republicans have benefited from being cruel, heartless and wrong, so it must be "effective".

Perhaps what I despise most about Republicans is what they've turned me into, but I find it hard to have compassion for these Trump voters

[ffr]

62. You want me to die because of their stupidity? I'm covered by ACA too. They voted to take it away.

And they did this to all of us out of their hatred and bigotry towards a dignified half black man, our president.

They get what they deserve for lumping me in with their plight.

[MineralMan]

71. Nobody wants that. We did a poor job of helping them

understand the actual choices they had. Why? Because we hate coal. It pollutes. It's awful. Coal-mining, too is a horrible thing, and miners are dying because regulation and safety was ignored for so long.

We ignore coal mining country because we don't think burning coal is a good idea. So, we don't campaign there. We'd rather not deal with it. But, voters in coal country still have to survive, and for many of them, that means coal mining, in one way or another. Yes, we know that the coal mining industry has to go away. But, we deal with that by simply ignoring the people in areas where coal mining takes place during our election campaigns.

Yes, the coal mining area votes did a stupid thing by voting for Trump. But Democrats also did a stupid thing by not educating those same people about what we're doing to help them deal with the past and prepare for a coal-free future. We don't like coal, so we ignore those who depend on it for their lives.

We're stupid, too.

[dionysus]

72. Well, as you've seen, there's posts like yours, but also people who do, in fact,

seem to relish the idea of people suffering, out of spite or revenge or whatever.

I'm of the "let us not become that which we hate" mold ..

[MineralMan]

74. Like everything, it's complicated.

I'm not happy that coal miners voted against their own best interests. But, I'm also not happy that we didn't show them why they shouldn't do that. And we certainly didn't.

We fail often because we shun people who make their livings in industries we don't care for. Then, we're surprised when they vote for the other party. We need to learn from this and not do that any longer.

It's not just coal, either. It's all of the old industries that aren't good for the environment. We want those industries to go away, but don't have an alternative place of employment for all those workers and voters. We need to do better in our conversations with people in industries we dislike. Most people don't think beyond their next paycheck or the next six months.

We need to educate much better than we do.

[awoke_in_2003]

99. +1000. nt

[Charles Bukowski]

87. Lol @ trying to blame us for their terribly stupid choices. .

Are these fucking children we're dealing with? These are grown ass adults who preferred to lies of a con man to the truth by Hillary Clinton. Here's what she had to say on the subject... in West Virginia:



[QUOTE]Look, we have serious economic problems in many parts of our country. And Roland is absolutely right. Instead of dividing people the way Donald Trump does, let's reunite around policies that will bring jobs and opportunities to all these underserved poor communities.

So for example, I'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity using clean renewable energy as the key into coal country. Because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business, right?

And we're going to make it clear that we don't want to forget those people. Those people labored in those mines for generations, losing their health, often losing their lives to turn on our lights and power our factories.

Now we've got to move away from coal and all the other fossil fuels, but I don't want to move away from the people who did the best they could to produce the energy that we relied on.

So whether it's coal country or Indian country or poor urban areas, there is a lot of poverty in America. We have gone backwards. We were moving in the right direction. In the '90s, more people were lifted out of poverty than any time in recent history.

Because of the terrible economic policies of the Bush administration, President Obama was left with the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, and people fell back into poverty because they lost jobs, they lost homes, they lost opportunities, and hope.

So I am passionate about this, which is why I have put forward specific plans about how we incentivize more jobs, more investment in poor communities, and put people to work.[/QUOTE]



Please tell me how more clearly she could have made her position known so these halfwits could understand?

[MineralMan]

88. I'm not laughing. You go right ahead.

[Dorian Gray]

31. People vote for a myriad of reasons

and it's complicated. But to wish them pain and death for their vote is the utmost pettiness. This is ugly.

Do we want to work to save healthcare, make it better for everybody? Or do we want people to die to make a point?

[Bettie]

41. There is a world of difference

between wishing them pain and death and saying "well, this IS what you voted for".

When their health care is taken away, Dems will have no control over it and will not vote for it, but these voters will still blame us for their plight.

So, why should we have sympathy for the willfully blind?

Why should we have sympathy for those who will castigate us "liberals" for something that we did not do?

No one wishes them pain or death, but some of us do wish for them to actually see what they chose.

For all of us, it would be best if Republicans did not destroy our safety net. But let's be real: it's going to happen and these are the voters who chose that. They will lose as much as people who did not vote for it.

[LonePirate]

44. Exactly! I have no sympathy for the problems they inflicted upon themselves.

My sympathy is reserved for all of the good people who voted for Democrats and who will be facing life and death situations once the ACA is repealed.

[Ligyron]

56. What was it they said at that RW town hall meeting a few years back?

"Let them die!" was it not?

yeah...

[hibbing]

80. Yes!

That was a moment of clarity that made me sick to my stomach.


I give up.

Peace

[RKP5637]

54. The way I look at it we are ALL losing something and they unleashed this on us with their

refusal to listen. No, I do not wish pain and suffering on them, but I do point out that many will endure pain and suffering who did sensibly vote for Hillary and the democratic agenda. So, now millions will suffer, and that is just the beginning.

[Dorian Gray]

68. There are voters who chose that, sure

and many of those voters are worried that they will no longer be insured for black lung, something that affects coal miners.

It's short sighted, of course, to vote against their needs.

Insurance prices, even on the ACA index, have increased, and a lot of those voters may barely be able to afford the increasing costs. The ACA didn't do enough. It's a start. And republicans talking about repealing it and replacing it with something better are FULL OF SHIT unless they are going to ensure that all people who suffer any condition are covered by medical care.

That doesn't mean that those suffering such horrible illnesses and consequences from their years of hard and thankless work shouldn't be given sympathy. In many of those counties, there is a sense of loss and hopelessness. Joblessness is at an all time high. People need to pay for their own insurance unless they are covered by Medicaid. It's complicated. And throwing their suffering and fears out is WHAT LED THEM TO VOTE FOR THE REPUBLICANS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

We should be championing these people and their needs.

Christ, is that really so freaking hard to see?

[Bettie]

70. What led them to vote for Republicans in the first place is

simple.

Racism.

And that orange creature tweaked their sense of superiority...they could vote against that (well, you know what they like to call him) and his (same name) family in the WHITE House and against an uppity woman at the same time!

They could vote for all the brown people to be removed from THEIR country.

These are not good or decent people we're talking about. These are people who saw overt racism (among other things) and said "YES! That's what I want!".

[JustAnotherGen]

84. Exactly

When their health care is taken away, Dems will have no control over it and will not vote for it, but these voters will still blame us for their plight.


They will blame the Democratic Party - regardless of our lack of power to stop the repeal.

They don't understand that ONE man or woman can't stop the entire house and Senate. They will pick a scapegoat hand picked by Fox. That person will be a Democratic Party member. And that is who will get the blame.

I'm a little different than MineralMan (upthread) where he says we didn't reach them.

I say - they can't be reached. We need to replace these voters with making sure every single person who will be harmed the next few years is registered and votes Democratic.

After that and we have some wins - we can help them. But not until then.

[Bettie]

89. You're right, the key isn't reaching the hard-core Republicans

who have a negative view of everything we stand for, even though, if you drill down, they believe in most of it too.

The key is reaching the larger group of people who don't vote for whatever reason.

The key is making sure every voter we register knows the rules of their state (ID, etc.).

Then, we can help them, while they kick and scream about it. We can help them and they will hate us for it.

I'm betting if you talk to any of the guys complaining about losing their coverage, they hate Obama and Democrats and even the ACA which gives them the coverage they fear losing.

They (the Reflexive Republican) hate social security...but they feel they personally are deserving, more so than those "others".

They hate medicare/medicaid, but they know that they personally are deserving of it, much more so than "others".

Same with SNAP. They are deserving, not like all those others who are not.

So, eventually, maybe we'll be able to move the pendulum back toward helping people rather than purposefully harming them and they will hate us for that too.

Meanwhile, while Ryan/McConnell rip their lives to tiny pieces, they will blame us for what their own actions have wrought.

[Dorian Gray]

97. I don't know....

the three states that were very important in this election: West Virginia, Michigan and Wisconsin have all been reached in the past. I think that we need for every american. Even ones we are angry with right now.

Is it a betrayal? Yes. It feels like they made a huge mistake and they're cutting off noses to spite their face. I'm sure there was a lot of racism involved, but there is also A LOT OF RESENTMENT. And primarily because we act as though we are so much smarter and above the people from the states who voted for Trump.

I think he (Trump) is an idiot. I also think a lot of people voted for a lot of complicated reasons. I'm shocked to find out that people who I didn't think were political did vote for Trump. I'm upset about all of this. I live in NYC, and I'm surrounded by like minded people who are quick to brush off Trump voters as ignorant rubes. But they all can't be. And what are we not doing for people that they would choose HIM over Hillary and the Democratic Party? We really need to figure this out.

The election of Trump is the death of the conservative Republican party. It just is. I don't want it to be the death of the Democratic Party, as well.

[LanternWaste]

55. It's odd you call them self-centered followed immediately by a self-centered qualifier.

It's odd you call them self-centered followed immediately by a self-centered qualifier. I understand we often hold others to a higher standard we hold ourselves to, regardless of the little smoochies our ass may desire...

[Grey Lemercier]

2. Too fucking bad, they voted for it, fuck 'em, elections have

consequences, WV voted SEVENTY PERCENT for Shitgibbon. I am an utter atheist but....Reap what you sow.

[Dorian Gray]

32. Seriously?

And there are the thirty percent who didn't vote for him. They'll reap what the rest sowed, as well. We should be making society better for everybody. If we wish pain and horror on those who think differently than us, we will never convince them that our way of thinking and governing is better.

[Grey Lemercier]

33. they voted for a racist, misogynistic POS who enables horrid fundie xian bible bangers and white

power scum etc. to try and erase us women, PoC and LGBTQ.

I have ZERO fucks to give about them.

[maxrandb]

51. Let them pray to JAY-SUS

I'll go to the pulmonary specialist

[Charles Bukowski]

3. I'll save my sympathies for scared Clinton voters.

These clowns can take their #MAGA hats and shove them up their ass.

[lame54]

48. I just read Ham on Rye...

It was great

Now I'm gonna re-read Post Office

[HassleCat]

4. Everything will be fine!

Your employer, the coal company, will be so grateful you elected Trump that he will give you comprehensive health care for life.

[madokie]

5. I feel sorry for the people whose hate for hillary

was so strong that they shot themselves in the feet, so to say, by voting for tRump. In a way I say you reap what you sow but that is a tad too harsh for the way I feel about my fellow humans. After all we are all in this together.

Actually I blame the worthless press and the likes of AM hate radio and faux noise. Those three are the cusp of our problems today

[LenaBaby61]

8. After all, we are all in this together.

Not really. They were there ONLY in it for themselves.

They voted against their OWN best interest without even listening to what their president was saying.

tRumputin never really said what he'd repeal and replace Obamacare WITH. Just said something "fantastic." The thuglicans never really said either, and in fact I believe they'll repeal it and replace it LATER. MUCH later with nothing or very little.

At some point, these low-info voters have to take responsibility for their own actions, and for the bad choices they made. I only hate that the rest of us with functioning brains will be suffering behind their dumb mistake of voting for tRumputin out of pure ignorance, hatred, racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia or whatever it WAS that made them run to vote in their dumb president who will take away their "goodies" that most don't want others to have. I DO however feel for those in the red states who made the right decision in voting for Hillary who knew what time it was.

for the dummies though.

[sheshe2]

14. No sorry can not fully agree with you.

They did not just shoot themselves in the foot. They shot 20 million people a mortal wound as well. They are going to die. Any tinkering with ACA will cause its collapse and may take Medicare with it.

No I will not forgive their stupidity and hate.

[Amimnoch]

21. Can't really lay this one on the press.

Trump, and his deplorable party's plans for the ACA wasn't some secret that the press didn't cover. Their plans were VERY clear, VERY covered, and repeated often. It was right out there on AM hate radio as well that the ACA, and anything "Obama" was in the crosshairs.

For any person who voted for Trump, and will suffer under his policies, I have absolutely zero fucks to give.

For any person who voted for a third party candidate, and will suffer under Trumps policies, I have absolutely zero fucks to give.

For any person who decided to not vote out of protest due to Clinton winning the primary... zero fucks.

For every person who "got it", and in the general election voted for Clinton, I cry for the suffering we will endure.

There are just too many people that will suffer as a result of the Trump voters/third party voters/non voters actions for me to waste my time caring about those who helped make this happen.

[JustAnotherGen]

25. ITA

I also have to add - they only want their special snowflake addition to ACA from last April to remain. They never mention other people in their "protests". So since they are only out for themselves . . .

[bettyellen]

90. JAG - what is the addition from last April? Thanks!!

[ProfessorGAC]

45. Not Only Did They Shoot Themselves In the Feet, Madokie. . .

. . .but they took dead aim. So focused were they are non-issues like an email server, a subject about which most of those voters have no understanding, that they took dead aim and fired. Then, they said "ready" Ooops.

[RBInMaine]

95. Feeling sorry for them is the problem. They fucked THEMSELVES. Period!! No mercy!

[Hekate]

6. But Trump said he'd bring the coal jobs back! So their sons can get black lung too!

What could possibly go wrong? And that awful untrustworthy crooked Hillary said those jobs were disappearing just because the coal's running out!

Aaaaaaaaagh.

[world wide wally]

7. WTF did they expect?

Oh, I remember.... Something terrific.

[Ohioblue22]

28. somethimg terrific bah-leave me

[msongs]

10. oh look, november's enemies are now our friends coming up in 2018. things change nt

[lame54]

50. Kansas re elected Brownback...

So don't count on a change of heart

They may be losing something they need but that doesn't mean they will put the blame where it rightfully goes

[Bucky]

11. But they're safe from Hillary's emails

and also America is now great again

[Paladin]

42. +1000. Thank you. (nt)

[Solly Mack]

13. It is sad, but at the same time I still want to shake these people

and ask them what the fuck they were thinking.


At some point you have to take responsibility for the things you choose to believe. When you scoff at facts and mock science, when you attack intelligence and choose comforting, self-affirming lies, you are encouraging your own oppression. You are inviting people like Trump and Ryan to victimize you.

We have a president-elect that doesn't know how a bill becomes a law elected by people who have no clue how government is supposed to work.

If you don't even understand how government works, how can you vote responsibly?

You can blame the lack of education or upbringing, but there comes a time when you have to pick up a book instead of listening to Fox News or your friends on Facebook.

There is no shame in admitting ignorance. The only shame comes from refusing to do anything about it.

[susanna]

18. This is one of the best posts I have ever read. n/t

[Solly Mack]

93. Thank you

You're too kind.

[susanna]

104. I'm not as kind as I would like, but thank you for thinking so ;)

I have been that ignorant person you spoke of. And you are so very right - only each person can change that by becoming more discerning and aware.

It was just something I needed to see right now, and am going to move forward and use your wise words (paraphrased, of course). You did everyone a service by posting it. So says me.

[maxrandb]

52. Well, since they are the "Party of Personal Responsibility"

I'm sure they will take "responsibility" for their vote.

They would intend deny healthcare to their fellow Americans so that they could die a painful and horrible death while also bankrupting themselves, so I fully expect them to dig deep into their pockets to pay for their own healthcare.

Something tell me though that they believe that only they are "hard-working 'Muricans", and that health care would only be taken away from the gays, liberals, minorities and Muslims, not from God-Fearing people like them...I mean, afterall, they are the "salt of the earth", the rest of us are just "takers".

[Solly Mack]

64. I read an earlier article on the same subject, fear of losing the black lung provision

and the attitude was, it's not like we're begging for hand-outs, but only getting what we are entitled to...

and I thought the same thing - that implied in that message is the thinking that other people in need are begging and asking for hand-outs and this coal miner needed to distinguish himself, if only in his own mind, from those he saw as lazy or undeserving or wanting something for free.

All his life he was taught and later spouted to his own children, that needing help was a bad thing, so when he needs help, it's not because he is begging or expecting it, but because it is owed to him. And he is owed, but what he is owed is the same thing as everyone else - fair treatment, a livable wage, decent housing, a solid education, and actual health care, as well as help when needed.

So yeah, there is the underlining belief that they are the real Americans, the true hard-working Americans who deserve whatever they can get while others are feeding off the system.

I doubt they will take responsibility for their vote. They've invested their entire lives in certain beliefs and to adopt new ones at this stage would be a blow to their very being. They need to believe they are different or somehow special, otherwise they are like the very people they despise.

Never mind that how they see other people is based on warped thinking steeped in bigotry and false premises.

Corporations have screwed him (and everybody else) with profits over people. Government siding with corporations on profits over people have screwed him (and everybody else) but the single mother needing assistance has not screwed him - but it's her he will heap the most scorn on. Her, and those he sees as like her.

It's still sad, even when it pisses me off. That people can't see how they are instruments, tools, in their own oppression.

[JustAnotherGen]

82. This is perfect

Great analysis of the mindset that got them to this place.

[Solly Mack]

92. At the end of the day I still want to smack them.

If the only people they hurt were themselves, that would be one thing. But they have made the choice to hurt others, even though most of them will not see it that way, and that makes it hard to feel sorry for them.

[yardwork]

98. Elegant post. Thanks.

[Solly Mack]

100. I am still baffled by it all.

What seems so obvious to me is, obviously, not obvious. They can't see how they are harming themselves.

I've argued with people over the years about voting against their own interests only to be told I don't get it. Maybe I don't...probably never will.

[yardwork]

101. Your assessment doesn't condescend.

You point out that people choose to remain ignorant, even when they have plenty of opportunities to obtain facts, to consider other sources, to show discretion and discernment. Instead, they choose the easy, emotional way.

For all the posts here claiming that Democrats neglect or overlook or fail to reach out to Republican voters, your post actually reminds us of the concept of personal responsibility.

[Solly Mack]

103. Republicans talk about personal responsibility when they want to excuse

letting children go hungry. I think personal responsibility involves learning why children shouldn't go hungry.

Why that entire premise (lazy poor, bad parents so punish them and their children) is flawed.

Now, the GOP know this but don't care. Though I'm not sure all the GOP know this - as they seem to be electing more and more people who are willfully ignorant (their former base has become elected officials). Either way, both groups of republicans serve each other. The greedy and the willfully ignorant.

John Boehner got burned by the same base he cultivated after they became elected officials themselves. Even he wasn't crazy enough for them. He spent years appealing to their baser natures to get their vote, and then they decided they could do better.

You feed ignorance you get more ignorance. You feed it long enough and ignorance becomes the norm.

And now we have Trump/Pence.

It's ignorance - all the way down.

[McCamy Taylor]

15. I really think they thought he was only gonna take the ACA away from Black folks.

Silly proletariat. Their corporate masters do not distinguish between their peons on the basis of their skin color. They despise all members of the working class.

[JustAnotherGen]

23. +10000 n/t

[Hoyt]

26. If you've ever been to an area like that, you know that is exactly right.

[Ohioblue22]

29. they thought "i'll be ok cause im white" then were surprised

and upset ro find they are getting the same treatment

[Tatiana]

16. They need to lose these benefits. It is the only way they will learn their lesson.

Unfortunately, their stupidity, racism, and general selfishness will cause others harm too.

But pain and suffering is pretty much the only language these Trump voters will understand.

[flying-skeleton]

22. ZERO

Sorry but I have 0 ... exactly ZERO sympathy for those that voted for the imbecile to be president !!

[JustAnotherGen]

24. Oh well

[lindysalsagal]

30. It's not like he didn't run on it. They knew this would happen.

HRC made it clear she would fight for their healthcare.

[democratisphere]

34. The "reality" drumpf campaign is ending

and now his voters are going to get the real world consequences for their vote, right between the eyes.They have been had by the conman.

[bowens43]

35. I feel bad for those who didnt vote for trump

but for those that did , fuck them. They get what they deserve.

[get the red out]

36. I guess they had better get to Church

and pray about it. I'm pretty sure their Churches play some role in who they vote for. Of course it may just be God's will..................................

The men of my family were coal miners, strong union Democrats too. They weren't brainwashed idiots.

[Starry Messenger]

37. I'm on Covered CA.

I'll start feeling sorry when the heartfelt news stories start coming out about people like me who voted Hillary, but are now facing an uncertain future because of coal miners who seemingly can use the internet to order Trump hats but can't research what the man actually said.

I had a biopsy last month, which had a benign result. They recommended a follow up exam next year, only there might not be a next year for me of health coverage. This is literally my only access.

[SammyWinstonJack]

38. Probably thought they were special and would be able to keep their health care

while those they didn't deem worthy, would lose theirs.

[MoonRiver]

39. ...

[MFM008]

43. When you buy

A shit sandwich why are they surprised it tastes just like that?

[hatrack]

46. Boo-hoo. They want to commit suicide, fine.

They want to take the rest of us with them when they go, fuck that, and fuck them.

[edhopper]

47. Same people

who can't see why voting for their State government kept them from the Medicaid expansion.

[Paladin]

53. "Democratic" Senator Manchin (W.Va.) refuses to meet with Obama on preserving the ACA.

Until these coal miners develop enough sense to vote in their own self-interest, I say to hell with any outreach efforts to them. Let them come crawling back to us.

[avebury]

57. No sympathy here.

Actions have consequences. Coal country Trump voters may find out the hard way that their votes may very well end up killing them because their votes will most likel bring back the concept of death panels and Grandma/Grandpa won't be the only victims this time. I reserve my sympathy for those who didn't vote for this nightmare but will end up being dragged down by the idiots.

And look at the Democratic Senator from coal country who is refusing to meet with Obama to help find a way to save Obamacare.

[riversedge]

58. Dem Senator Wont Attend Obama Meeting to Save Obamacare: I Just Cant, In Good Conscience -

Dem Senator Wont Attend Obama Meeting to Save Obamacare: I Just Cant, In Good Conscience - http://demu.gr/10028430050

[Phoenix61]

83. Good conscience?

Seriously? He has no conscience. What a POS.

[RKP5637]

59. They voted to have their healthcare taken away. Now, that might happen and they are upset. This is

so F'ed up words pale to describe it. Not only likely will they suffer, but they have dragged millions down with them. The R's said over and over and over again a main goal was to destroy Obamacare, and they voted for it and rejoiced. I don't want to see them suffer, not do I want to see others. There needs to be a solution for their Idiocracy, but the republicans have nothing to offer them.

[librechik]

61. I wish I could say something nice and sympathetic n/t

[exboyfil]

63. We have at least three externalities that are not included in

the cost of doing business in using coal.

1. AGW
2. Degradation of local environment
3. Health of miners

[eleny]

66. Hey, but you're getting back at Obama, the black guy. It's all good, right?

And the rallies were so much fun! Remember how you felt yelling "Lock her up, lock her up!". Jeering at Dem protesters and maybe even being close enough to give them a shove was such a high.

You have priorities. Now you get to live with them.

No apologies from me about my words. Their Obama hate/Trump love will now let the Republicans screw with my Medicare. They can go to hell.

[MineralMan]

67. Then they should have voted for Hillary Clinton.

This is not new information. Their union leaders should have informed them of the facts. Elections have consequences. They can thank Democrats for trying to protect their health and healthcare. The way to do that is to vote for them.

The heyday of coal mining is over. And in its heyday, conditions were such that many miners died in the mines and from black lung, due to poor regulation and lousy safety laws. That industry will not return in any way that will employ all the miners it used to. It simply won't.

Trump's not going to get jobs back for coal miners. He's not going to safeguard the future healthcare for coal miners. He doesn't give a good goddamn about coal mines or coal miners.

The party that has tried to help is the Democratic Party. If you voted against those who have been trying to help, you made a mistake, people in coal mining areas. I'm sorry you did that. I don't understand why you did that.

We did a terrible job of explaining that in coal country. We ignored those people because we don't like the idea of burning coal. So, we let them be influenced by the Republicans, despite that party's lack of concern for them.

[lpbk2713]

73. "Saaay ... Faux Snooze didn't tell us about that."

Not before the election.

[forjusticethunders]

75. The GOP has suckered White voters

They think all that small government bootstraps shit is directed at THOSE PEOPLE and they'll get herrenvolk democracy like the good old days where THOSE PEOPLE knew their place.

They're in for a rude awakening, the GOP extreme right really does want you to die quickly so their donors can make more money, whether you're black or white.

[0rganism]

76. what's the matter? just buy some insurance across state lines, right?

the Free Market will solve ALL their problems
right?

[DFW]

77. No mercy

If they voted for Trump, whether or not they knew what they were doing, they deserve the full consequences of that vote, period. If that means suffering for lack of coverage to treat diseases that Obamacare would have covered and Ryan-scare will not, I say: so be it. Claiming ignorance after the election is not an option. Voting in the election is where you exercise your option. Everyone casting a vote has a personal responsibility to find out what those options are. May their next of kin vote more wisely next time, even as I realize that they probably won't

My deepest sympathies, on the other hand, are reserved for those who voted for Hillary and will STILL suffer the consequences of her "defeat."

[50 Shades Of Blue]

78. Cuing up...

My tiniest violins orchestra.

[Blue_Tires]

79. Deal... They knew damn well what they were voting for

and they knew damn well what they were celebrating.

[TeamPooka]

81. Suckers get what they wanted and I'm supposed to feel sorry for them?

No.

[C_U_L8R]

85. Yeah elections have consequences.

So does ignorance. The folks could have helped
themselves by not falling for rightwing bullshit.
At least they should know who to blame
(Hint, the mirror is over there)

[Snackshack]

86. Sad...

To see this story but I can't help but be very frustrated by it...

Republicans have tried to repeal Obamacare over 50 times since it passed. What did these people think republicans were going to do if they were voted into the majority in both chambers and voted into the executive?

The man says he heard Trump say "I'll bring coal jobs back" so that is why he voted for trump...did he not once stop to think about what republicans had tried to repeal over and over and over?


As for the second lady in the video... around the 3m12sec mark is very telling...I was feeling sympathy for her until that.

[PlanetBev]

91. You voted for him, WV

Enjoy your shit taco.

[roamer65]

94. Oh well.

Elections have consequences.

[Thinkingabout]

102. This is sad, Trump went into these areas promising everything and will end up taking

everything. He will not be able to continue the demand for coal, at least Hillary offered retraining. She also wanted to continue the ACA and perhaps improving it.

[Jamaal510]

105. ...

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