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Bernie Sanders Announces His Anti-Trump Agenda On 'Rachel Maddow' & It's Pretty RevolutionaryNOOR AL-SIBAI
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In his first interview in 2017, Sanders expounded upon the new Democratic plan to hold a series of rallies across the country on Jan. 15 to oppose the Republican Party's plans to swiftly repeal the Affordable Care Act within the next year without offering a viable alternative. If followed through with, the move has the potential to leave tens of millions uninsured. In signature Sanders style, the Vermont senator not only offered a glimpse into his wealth of policy knowledge on the Republican budget and Trump's agenda, but also offered the kinds of actionable solutions that inspired so many to support him in his presidential bid.
During his time with Maddow, Sanders notes that the Jan. 15 rallies will be the first time in the party's history that they sponsored such grassroots events outside of the election cycle. To say that Sanders changed the party is an understatement this bold organizational move might just be the push the party needs to tap into the millennial support base that propelled Sanders to his success as a candidate.
Link to Bernie Sanders' press release
Link to Joint Letter to Congressional Democrats
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retrowire
(10,345 posts)What will the rallies do?
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)Many of the Trump supporters have no idea what is going on. Trump famously said that unlike the other Republicans, he would not cut SS, Medicaid, and Medicare. He plans on signing the heartless bills doing just that. Paul Ryan and Mitch McTurtle have these bills ready to go.
We must draw attention and get some blowback to make the Republicans think twice about voting for this shit!
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)Rallies bring awareness and generate energy around an issue. They let the PTB know people are paying attention and are not just going to lay down and take the abuses of having their healthcare and retirement taken away. Millionaires and billionaires stole our government. They aren't going to just be nice and give it back. We have to TAKE IT back. Rallies are a part of that.
Another part of it is knowing who your reps are and calling, writing, emailing them REGULARLY (daily/weekly)- Republicans and Dems, as well as Pelosi, Schumer, Warren, and Sanders. It takes one minute to call an office and state a position on an issue. The staffers are almost always pleasant and they do take tallies of public sentiment - esp if you're a constituent.
All of us have to be MORE POLITICALLY ACTIVE THAN EVER BEFORE.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)The election's over and the barbarians are in charge. Rallies are what we have, they are a strength of Sanders, and if we have any enthusiasm left for saving lives, this is our chance.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... /sarcsm
potone
(1,701 posts)I haven't seen you posting much since the election at either site. I hope you haven't fallen into despair. We are all still reeling from this election, but actions like the rallies that Bernie is advocating will put the Republicans on notice that they are being watched, and will serve to help educate his voters about what is in store for this country if the Republicans get their way.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Just angrily observant of everything now.
I keep to myself unless I feel I've really gotta speak.
And I abandoned JPR because of the partial acceptance of Trump I had seen there. I've got no tolerance for it.
potone
(1,701 posts)I also am astounded at the ready acceptance of anything that Putin or the Russian media say as the truth that some people there have. it is hard to find an internet home that one is comfortable in.
I'm glad you are doing as well as any of are after this appalling election. I have never seen anything like it.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 4, 2017, 01:54 PM - Edit history (1)
he drew large crowds by speaking against as an alternative to the policies of the Democratic Party.
I doubt he can attract the same crowds while supporting the policies of the Democratic Party.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)aintitfunny
(1,421 posts)Just curious, and seeking details.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)CousinIT
(9,247 posts)He did delineate differences between himself and Clinton - to be expected in a primary.
But maybe I missed something.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Bradical79
(4,490 posts)demmiblue
(36,865 posts)God lawd, it is almost humorous at this point.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Just sit home and watch the playoffs...
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)... not Democratic Party policies?
If I recall correctly he campaigned on a platform of standing up for the middle and lower classes, making the billionaire class pay their share, a more pacifistic world agenda, taking Obamacare to the next level by Medicare for all, tertiary education paid for through taxes, infrastructure improvements paid by taxes.... This is a left wing Democratic Party agenda.
We have a government that is effectively GW Bush... On steroids. The plus side is that Donal Drumpf isn't stupid. The minuses make GWB look like a Harvard constitutional law scholar in comparison.
Also remember the media isn't on our side.
Organized rallies are in my opinion a good way forward when you don't have the political power to make and pass laws.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)He won't draw the same crowds of millennials while supporting Democrats.
woodsprite
(11,916 posts)Perhaps some of what he said went against DLC-type policies, and I consider that perfectly acceptable. IMO even Roosevelt would have spoken against some of the wishy-washy ways of the DLC. Wish my Senators and Reps weren't so deep into the DLC (Carper, Coons, Carney (new DE governor, replaced yesterday by Lisa Blundt-Rochester)).
kickitup
(355 posts)My state of Kentucky is in the process of passing 3 restrictive abortion bills. PP and the ACLU are having a Day of Action in Frankfort tomorrow and he and his friends are going. They were all Bernie supporters in the primary.
George II
(67,782 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Not all of them will rally with Democrats.
George II
(67,782 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)...that's what a political party is about.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)I think Sanders' supporters need to do the same with respect to Sander's. A new era has dawned requiring youth and vigor IMO.
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)We need to work with and support them. Casting them off as "too old' will only hurt us.
This is not the time to be ageist and stand by and allow our healthcare and retirement to be stolen in order to pay for tax cuts for the rich.
There's just too much at stake here.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Beartracks
(12,816 posts)When she's back in the fray, THEN CousinIT could include her on the list.
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George II
(67,782 posts)There are 48 Democratic Senators (including 2 independents) and about 200 Democratic Representatives.
From the looks of things around here there is only one.
CousinIT
(9,247 posts)We can't afford to be ageist and cast off the only Dems we have to be our voice in gov't. Sure others will come onto the scene - younger, etc. But we got what we got right now and have to work w/ that.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Your ageist post has nothing to do what he said.
He is talking numbers not age. We have 48 DEMOCRATIC SENATORS, yet on DU we only have one. Only one Senator. One is the loneliest number.
George II (19,016 posts)
28. Yes, we need to work with and support THEM - ALL of them....
There are 48 Democratic Senators (including 2 independents) and about 200 Democratic Representatives.
From the looks of things around here there is only one.
You said what I have been thinking all along.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)as part of the resistance movement against Trumpism?
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Hillary, Sanders and Pelosi and allow fresh blood to establish themselves on a national basis.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)You need experience, and youth does not give you that.
You may be smart, but we need those who "have seen the elephant."
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Senate and the House until 2020. We must prepare for 2020 IMO.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)There are midterm elections in 2018. If Donal Drumpf proves to be unpopular, and if the Repukes do damage to health care without fixing it satisfactorily, and we keep up the momentum on the left and get out the vote we can take back the House. Unsure about the Senate because more safe Repuke seats are up next time and some Democrats in Red States are up for reelection.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)breath on that hope. PS.: The Republicans might vote to repeal the ACA before 2018 but it won't take effect until after 2018. Neither the House or Senate will flip to the Dems in 2018 IMO. 2020 is a census year. Therefore, we must not only be well positioned in the federal legislature but the state legislatures as well if we wish to reverse the fraudulent effects of Republican gerrymandering after the 2020 census.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)LakeArenal
(28,823 posts)At least Bernie isn't hiding away somewhere.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)all the oxygen. We need to strengthen our bench.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Nancy Pelosi is Minority Leader - if she's not out there pushing our issues, she's not doing her job.
And is it only women of a certain age that are "sucking up all the oxygen?" If you mean jumping into the spotlight - that's certainly what Bernie is doing.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Doesn't sound like value to me.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Medicare ? Point being, there are many in the Party in their 40's and 50's who have the requisite experience. We need to build our bench for the future. The time is quickly coming when Hillary, Bill, Pelosi and Sander's will represent our past. That is all I'm saying.
Vilis Veritas
(2,405 posts)Bernie has credibility, popularity, networks, experience, incredible stamina, incredible ability to stay on message and he is still active in the Senate (at least as far as I know).
I am ready to help him in whatever way I can.
If you can't name some young one (you said there were many) with a plan and agenda that has popularity and experience and who has a plan in place for fighting the incoming disaster then please just acknowledge the fact that we need to start fighting on DAY 1.
However, I agree with your sentiment about 2020, the party needs to be putting the Young One out there and whose coattails better to ride than the current active Senator Sanders, Warren, Pelosi...I could see them doing these rallies together and the old guard building up this Young One, preparing for the endorsement in 2019.
Hell, Warren could be that Young One and I would and was all over the Warren bandwagon for a long time so it would be very easy for me to get behind that brilliant woman.
Peace
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)So, no, that was not "all you were saying," any more than I said experience = medicare eligible....
If people are still up for leading - and by leading, I mean in Senate or in Dem leadership positions - then their experience and well honed gut instinct should not be thrown away because someone thinks there's not enough "oxygen" left in the room for them.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,743 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)to begin to develop their national identities.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I see to recall that Bernie supporters were OUTRAGED by all the support and highlighting that Hillary got from the party, because it just wasn't fair to Bernie.
And just who will be doing this "highlighting?" The people you claim are "sucking up all the oxygen" like our minority leaders - who was elected by those people who are currently doing the work of governing. Including those on your list.
I feel like you are simply tired of seeing certain people in leadership, and are rationalizing why you think that they should not be there.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)If we lose, there may not BE a 2020..
Get to work, like a vigorous youth.
I am, and I am 73.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)particular issue or they don't. Developing a strong nationally recognized bench for the future is what I was referring to.
Vilis Veritas
(2,405 posts)F that...I am going to start fighting, writing, calling, protesting right now. And if Bernie is leading some National effort to help me fight then HELL YEA!
But I do agree with developing that bench and I think that is why Warren was in the list...maybe? Or is Senator Warren to old?
Peace.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)state house and many other political bodies that shape my life right now, and provide the "highlighting" of political talent.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Perhaps you need to referesh your memory with respect to the OP.
dhill926
(16,347 posts)I don't give a flying fuck how old somebody is....just get shit done and resist the nightmare that lies ahead. All dems should be eager to enlist...
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)in the party.
And the only reason that many of his fans are even considering a woman as old as Elizabeth Warren - even after vilifying her for supporting Hillary - is that Bernie has blessed her with his approval.
Any other woman older than 50, particularly of color, seems to be dismissed out of hand. And the minute Hillary got pneumonia, Bernie fans were demanding she step down and let "vigorous" Bernie (who I believe knew he had melanoma back in July) step in.
I think that if someone is still going strong, we should absolutely have them in party leadership.
The presidency may be another situation, as that is a major stressor. I did have concerns about Hillary's age, but felt she was much healthier than Bernie, as women are usually healthier than men of the same age at that point.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)That cut on his cheek at the Convention that so many Sanders supporters said was "evidence" that the DNC "roughed him up" was likely a biopsy.
Going public with a health problem that serious at that time would certainly have been more of a problem for Bernie than rumors that he was assaulted by DNC thugs.
I have my doubts that he is as healthy as many believe.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...where are they? Maybe we should have them partner with Sanders since he's out there keeping the issues out front and engaging the public?
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)dominate that spotlight. It takes years to develop nationally recognized leading figures.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...but I think the pressure needs to not be for the existing people to step down but to work with the people who will eventually come up behind them. Bernie, having a platform and ability to connect with large groups of people, is in a good position to do this rather than an unknown at this point.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Perhaps it's a job that isn't about "highlighting," it's a job that requires a deep understanding of congress.
Perhaps it's not a learn on the job position, such as one to be given to someone that the boss would like to groom for other things.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)who has never done the work she does.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)by default. Pelosi has had her opportunity and shouldn't have cracked her whip in seeking re-election as minority leader IMO. Tim Ryan would have served as a breath of fresh air.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)There are reasons, even if Trust Buster doesn't understand them. It involves the very different weight that the president has as opposed to a single member of congress.
Again - if Tim Ryan had the confidence of his peers, then he would have been elected by his peers. Perhaps what is a 'breath of fresh air" to some is "not ready yet for this position" to those who work there.
Perhaps if you were to hold office in Congress, you would be in a position to judge.
Until then, the actual people who do the work get to make that decision, instead of those who might think that experience is a handicap.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Corey Booker, Al Franken, Elizabeth Warren, Don Beyers.....
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What are the specific policy changes that youth, and only youth can supply which mid- to older-age is unable to, and on what objective measure is that based?
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Neither the Clinton's, Sanders or Pelosi represent the next generation of leadership I never claimed that Democrats in their 40's or 50's are the only Democrats that can affect policy change.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Her era is over.
George II
(67,782 posts)Tanuki
(14,919 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)RussBLib
(9,020 posts)perhaps not everyone peruses every single post as closely as you do
George II
(67,782 posts).......I guess it'snot a good thing to "peruse" the home page of this site?
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George II
(67,782 posts)And "Hillary and Bill" are carrying on an age old tradition of ex-Presidents and their spouses attending the Inauguration at noon. They're not going to the Inaugural ball.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Hillary because she isn't planning rallies around the country.
Yes they are going to the inauguration.. It has everything to do with Hillary's grace, dignity, and strength,
She has every reason to hold her head high.. & I think it will piss off the insecure dump that she is there distracting from him being the center of everyone's universe.
Hillary is fearless and I'm glad the Clintons will be there for President Obama, too.
George II
(67,782 posts)...Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leaders in Congress, who have called for the rallies.
Funny how those two get shoved into the background all the time.
Cha
(297,323 posts)Congress.
Not by me they're not getting shoved away.. everyone deserves mention.. thank you, George.. I had no idea.
Me.
(35,454 posts)is blinding
pangaia
(24,324 posts)still_one
(92,239 posts)the outcome, unless those rallies get enough coverage, and they also motivate people to call their representative and senators. Otherwise, it will be just preaching to the choir.
The can also destroy the ACA informally through the process of budget reconciliation as I understand it
The fact that every Democrat running for Senate in a swing state lost to the establishment, republican, incumbent, puts us in a very precarious situation.
Don't get me wrong, we need to fight this every inch of the way, but those folks who decided not to vote or vote third party, have pretty much set the course for the next two years, and most likely the next four years
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)IntraPolitico
(51 posts)Our Revolution wasn't really what it expected it to be. One can only hope this really creates a change.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)this IS a step in that direction, ESPECIALLY for the Democratic Party. And it's a step in the direction of being an "opposition" party rather than a "compromise" party. Also note that this is coming from the left of the Democratic Party and not the party in general. The party as a whole will not easily let go of their support for the Reaganite, neo-liberal agenda and, to be fair, neither will many of the Republican globalists. This sets up a pretty interesting Congressional dynamic IMO.
But it's a start at getting people involved and out in the streets where REAL change has to begin.
PDittie
(8,322 posts)portlander23
(2,078 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)We can no longer afford to be less ruthless than our enemies... The game has been changed forever now...
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Folks better hope he vetos a bill the slams SS or Medicare -- it would save folks here the moral anguish or having to "back" trump on something. And SS may not be the only issue.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Keeps dissing Dems instead of embracing the reality of the Russian hacking and interference. Does he not believe the Intelligence Agencies like Trump? I mean, seriously, wtf?