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gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. The documentary films of mustard gas attacks from World War I
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jan 2017

Soldiers rushing into toxic clouds, suddenly clutching at their throats and dropping dead (the lucky ones) or writhing in intolerable pain (the unlucky), while our cruel overlords laugh and toast one another.

unblock

(52,253 posts)
3. more seriously, though, no. it will look remarkably like obamacare.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 03:15 PM
Jan 2017

the part they really hate is the medicare surtax on income beyond $200,000. that will go away.

the individual mandate will have to remain, but under a different name.

mathematically, a penalty for not buying insurance is the same as making everyone pay more taxes but having a rebate for those who do buy insurance.

so that's what they'll do, loudly cheer the end of the mandate, and loudly show off rebate checks to anyone who buys insurance, and quietly increase taxes elsewhere to balance it out.

mathematically, they've changed nothing, but the media and their supporters will eat it up as they always do.


then they'll talk about how it's all a "conservative, capitalist, market-based solution" and not a "government program" like that "socilist muslin" obama did and all that crap.

same program, different sales pitch. only real difference will be shifting the tax burden from the rich to the poor, not that the media will talk much about that....

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
4. The tax credit idea, based at first on age is a way to make insurance cost more
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 03:22 PM
Jan 2017

The credits are minimal so if you're not rich you'll have to take very poor insurance.

It will happen piecemeal so people can't get the steam up to organize and they'll use complexity against us

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Think you are right. They'll reshuffle deck a bit so it won't be referred to as Obamacare anymore.
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 03:34 PM
Jan 2017

Remember, all the critics right here kept saying Obamacare was the Republican plan all along.

I think rather than the Exchanges and subsidies, that might be able to accomplish the same thing with vouchers. I know we hate the word "vouchers," but what is the difference in telling people to go out and purchase insurance and we'll pay for it directly or we'll give you a check (electronic payment) that doesn't look like it's coming from government. I also think the Exchanges could probably be dispensed with without hurting ACA.

I know it's crazy, but I actually think if Democrats play it correctly, we might even see some improvements in ACA.

But, yes, it could all go to crap too in the rush to do something. But that is going to be hard for GOPers to explain to a lot of people.

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