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Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:34 PM Jan 2017

Calls mount to challenge congressional ratification of electoral college vote Friday Jan 6

Call your congress critters and ask them to object to ratification of the Electoral College vote on Friday!

At Least 50 Trump Electors Were Illegitimately Seated as Electoral College Members
More evidence surfaces as calls mount to challenge congressional ratification of Electoral College vote.

By Steven Rosenfeld / AlterNet
January 4, 2017

"More than 50 Electoral College members who voted for Donald Trump were ineligible to serve as presisential electors because they did not live in the congressional district they represented or they held elective office in states legally barring dual officeholders.

That stunning finding is among the conclusions of an extensive 1,000-plus page legal briefing prepared by a bipartisan nationwide legal team for members of Congress who are being urged to object to certifying the 2016 Electoral College results on Friday.

“We have reason to believe that there are at least 50 electoral votes that were not regularly given or not lawfully certified (16 Congressional District violations and 34 Dual Office-Holder violations,” the executive summary of their “Electoral Vote Objection Packet” said. “The number could be over a hundred. We urge you to prepare written objections for January 6.”

A joint congressional session is scheduled to ratify the 2016 Electoral College vote on Friday. While there has been calls to challenge that certification, including one women-led effortsaying Trump would not have won without suppressing Black and Brown voters, the analysis that scores of Trump electors were improperly seated—and the additional finding that most states won by Trump improperly filed their Electoral College “Certificates of Vote” with Congress—is unprecedented.

“The compiling of the laws and evidence in this Electoral Vote Objection Package was completed by a national team of roughly 15 pro bono attorneys, law students, and legal assistants who represent no client or entity,” their summary said. “We are non-partisan—Democrat, Republican, and Independent. We live in different parts of the country, urban and rural, Red states and Blue states.”

It remains to be seen if Trump’s Electoral College certification will be challenged. The Electoral College’s results have only been challenged twice since 1877. The most recent was in 2005, when an objection to Ohio’s Electoral College votes was filed by Rep. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, D-OH, and Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-CA. While that effort did not stop President George W. Bush's reelection, it did force both chambers of Congress to each debate for two hours before the Electoral College vote was ratified. Tubbs-Jones and Boxer used the podium to rail against GOP efforts to suppress the vote and disqualify ballots—typically in communities of color."

More: http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/least-50-trump-electors-were-illegitimately-seated-electoral-college-members

We did this in 2005. If one senator and one rep challenges the results of the electoral college vote, congress adjourns to their respective houses and debates for two hours and C-span one and two cover it, and it gets a lot of media attention. Please call your congress people and ask them to object to the Electoral College vote on Friday!

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Calls mount to challenge congressional ratification of electoral college vote Friday Jan 6 (Original Post) Amaryllis Jan 2017 OP
That could mean he doesn't have enough legitimate votes to be president without a direct vote from Tiggeroshii Jan 2017 #1
Technically, Congress could choose between Trump, Clinton, Powell or Ron Paul. TrollBuster9090 Jan 2017 #6
I thought Bernie got votes in WA and HI. KamaAina Jan 2017 #8
No, Hawaii only Jim Lane Jan 2017 #11
No, the House would choose among Clinton, Powell, and Trump Jim Lane Jan 2017 #9
GOP Congress will do nothing about this but.......... Takket Jan 2017 #2
This is the First of Many Roadsigns Ccarmona Jan 2017 #3
Another distracting fantasy... brooklynite Jan 2017 #4
Republicans could vote NOT to certify the electoral vote, and no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #5
Interesting how ProudLib72 Jan 2017 #7
Not gonna happen. Nt dionysus Jan 2017 #10
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
1. That could mean he doesn't have enough legitimate votes to be president without a direct vote from
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:41 PM
Jan 2017

congress

potentially

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
6. Technically, Congress could choose between Trump, Clinton, Powell or Ron Paul.
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 12:35 AM
Jan 2017

Since those were the four people who got votes in the original Electoral College vote. At this point, there might be a significant push to draft Colin Powell. Either way, yes, it would annoy the hell out of the Orangeman.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. No, Hawaii only
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:00 AM
Jan 2017

According to this summary, one Hawaii elector voted for Bernie. Washington State's faithless electors ended up being faithless even to Bernie: "Four Clinton electors in Washington did not vote for Clinton (three votes went to Colin Powell, and one to Faith Spotted Eagle)." There's a link to a New York Times article that I haven't read. Maybe the Powell voters were hoping that enough electors from Trump states would also desert, and that Powell, unlike Bernie, would have a chance of being accepted by the House as a compromise candidate.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
9. No, the House would choose among Clinton, Powell, and Trump
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 06:54 AM
Jan 2017

If no one has an Electoral College majority, the House chooses the President among the top three finishers. Powell came in third, with three votes.

The Senate chooses the Vice President from between the top two finishers, so Elizabeth Warren's third-place finish (two votes) wouldn't matter. It would have to be Kaine or Pence.

Takket

(21,577 posts)
2. GOP Congress will do nothing about this but..........
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:47 PM
Jan 2017

it will annoy the heck out of Trump, so let's do it!

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
3. This is the First of Many Roadsigns
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 10:52 PM
Jan 2017

The Dems in Congress will be coming upon to prove if they can be counted on to Resist. Or...will it be totally up to We the People.

no_hypocrisy

(46,122 posts)
5. Republicans could vote NOT to certify the electoral vote, and
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 11:07 PM
Jan 2017

three minutes later, they could also nominate and vote for Donald Trump to be president.

Wishful thinking.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
7. Interesting how
Thu Jan 5, 2017, 01:12 AM
Jan 2017

this is a major news story that absolutely none of the mainstream media want to cover. I'm betting they sit on it until after the 6th when nothing can be done.

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