Trump's actions against the C.I.A indicate that it is posed to discover his criminal activity.

[skip fox]

Why is Trump so hostile to the intel community? Why is he constantly and vehemently attacking what will be one of his most important assets? And this morning we hear that he planning to restructure them? Why? Simply because the story of Russian hacking tarnishes his "victory"?

No!

It's because when the C.I.A. discovers something terrible about Trump, he can say their discoveries and revelations are the result of revenge.

It's likely as simple as that. "Kill" the messenger before he delivers the message.

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Thus did speculation visit me this morning.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

1. Please let this be true.

[Mr. Evil]

16. And please let there be indisputable video along with it. n/t

[democratisphere]

2. Agreed. I believe this to be absolutely true.

[Raster]

3. I believe Trump is a Russian asset...

...and I believe American Intelligence suspects as much.

[Pachamama]

7. If the CIA and Intel community know he is a Russian asset & compromised - they better act soon

As in next 14 days!!!!

Because the election is over... This isn't any longer about whether Intel agencies should follow the Hatch Act or any other rule to stay out of politics. This is now about doing their job and PROTECTING OUR NATION!!!!

So there are now 14 days left - and as this dangerous man calls democratic leadership names and makes a hero out of Assange and mocks the Intel community and will send them packing in 15 days making them irrelevant and leading our Nation into disaster, they better fucking fast act and act hard or else it's all over and irrelevant what they know no we are all screwed. And by all, I mean all.

[skip fox]

12. That's one of the reasons we should be hammering this daily. It's a matter of time.

And of saving our country.

[alfredo]

31. There are other less disruptive means.

They can use any intel they have to make him stop tweeting, drop his hostility to NATO, lower the hateful rhetoric toward Muslim, for we don't want a holy war against 1.6 billion Muslims, clear any public statements with staff, and stick to the script.

[Thinkingabout]

4. The CIA is very capable of uncovering Trump's activity. Trump is

Trying to divert attention from the fact the Russians help him in the election. He even bragged about WikiLeaks helping him. Trump is proving he is a puppet.

[Achilleaze]

5. Republican draft-dodger Comrade Casino plans to use the KGB as private "Intelligence Contractor"

Such a deal...

[no_hypocrisy]

6. But would the CIA expose Trump today and not wait until he takes office?

[Pachamama]

10. They have 14 days from this moment to act

Because on Day 15, January 20th, there is no more - they can pack their intelligence bags and head home because Comrade Trumpski is in charge and he is saying "You're FIRED" and they are completely irrelevant.

Now he just mocks them, marginalized them and then tells them to go fuck themselves and the Intel community looks stupid and as if they have nothing. And Trump gets away with it and laughs at them all.

[leftynyc]

8. Pres elect pussy grabber

knows it's just a matter of time before the hundreds of millions he owes to russian banks becomes public knowledge.

[skip fox]

9. I just heard David Frum (conservative editor at Atlantic) say somehing close to this on CNN.

He says what the C.I.A. has on Trump concerns his collusion with the Russian government in terms of hacking.

He wasn't specific, but we can imagine the possible points of involvement: directing their hacks (telling who to hack and when), directing them not to reveal the RNC hacks, negotiating the hack-material third-party transfer to Assange, then suggesting to Assange the best times of release of specific materials, etc.

Of course it could also have to do with criminal acitivities he's engaged while in business, perhaps in his dealings with Russian banks of Russian or its oligarchs.

[exboyfil]

29. David Frum would love a President Pence

everything is going according to plan.

[Chasstev365]

11. Hope the "Art of this Deal" will be exposed

Equally entertaining will be watching Republicans trying to defend it!

[Vinca]

13. Trump must be a treasure trove of criminal activity.

We might not get to see his tax returns, but the CIA sure as hell will.

[bdamomma]

37. I wouldn't mess around with the CIA

they will get tRump on some illegal activity.

[malaise]

14. He is the master of projection

and revenge

[annabanana]

15. 100% consistent with his modus operandi . . . He "cares" in direct proportion

to it's potential effect on HIM. About anything and everything . .

[GoCubsGo]

17. Exactly right.

In reporting the Russian hackings to to the public, the intelligence agencies exposed the fact that his presidency is illegitimate. Everyone knows it now (although his cult followers refuse to admit it.) Hence the gaslighting campaign to delegitimize them, along with their messengers, the media. This may all be about him being a narcissistic fuck, who can't deal with the notion that a majority of the country hates him. Or, he is in on it with the Russians, and doesn't want anyone to believe the CIA, et al., if and when that comes out. I suspect it's both.

[skip fox]

19. Yes. They are not mutually exclusive.

But the concentrated, obsessive anti Intel speech sees to suggest more that ego.

[GoCubsGo]

21. Also the fact that the bulk of his party is going along with it.

These ratfuckers have made me reconsider my opposition to firing squads.

[Pachamama]

44. Or in the case of GOP& Comrade Trumpski - circular firing squads

[CentralMass]

33. A link to an article on Narcissistic Injury..

http://www.decision-making-confidence.com/narcissistic-injury.html
"
Narcissistic Injury Explained

Narcissistic injury is the term used for any threat to a narcissist's outsized ego or self-esteem.

Remember that those with narcissistic personality disorder have a distorted sense of their own self importance and consider themselves superior to others as well as entitled to whatever they want.

They live in a fantasy world where they consider they have great success and/or power, intelligence and beauty. They believe they are unique and deserving of special attention. They require praise, admiration and attention to boost this ego and inflated image of themselves.



Perceptions

Anything that they perceive as a threat to this 'false-self' or to their sense of dominance, is considered narcissistic injury. The word 'perceived' is important because it means that the threat may not be real, for example, it may not be perceived as a challenge by normal people.

A 'real' threat may be something such as a person pointing out one of their lies, or challenging their dominance, or saying that the narcissists needs should come second to their own.

Things that a narcissist might consider injurious include such things as when someone makes a simple remark about the color of the narcissist's clothes not being the best for them, or that something of the narcissist could be better, or when someone disagrees with their opinion.

Ordinarily, these things are part and parcel of everyday conversations and people decide if they want to pay attention to them and take it as advice, or not!

Sometimes it's the not saying something that causes the injury. When the narcissist does something, they often expect compliments and praise, no matter how small the thing. Normal people may consider that no comment is necessary, and so they say nothing.

For the narcissist, however, not receiving the praise or compliment may be perceived as an insult, a criticism of what they have done, and they respond to it as such."
How dare you!

Narcissists respond to narcissistic injury as if it's a serious criticism, a total rejection, a definite threat to their very existence.

The response is swift, intense and very often out of proportion. It is called narcissistic rage and can vary from totally ignoring the source to verbal and physical violence. You can read more about narcissistic rage here..

http://www.decision-making-confidence.com/narcissistic-rage.html

The response is often to belittle the source, rather than dealing with the content of the criticism or disagreement. The resulting attack can be brutal.

If you inflict an injury on a malignant narcissist, be prepared for consequences!:"

More at the link

[gordianot]

18. Trump knows the Goverment agencies know.

By Government agencies probably multiple nationalities. We are at the stage whatcha gonna do about it? I expect him to have a serious and almost sudden health decline.

[machoneman]

20. Let's take s short trip back in time.

The USA under President Obama did take actions against Russian oligarchs, Russian banks and other Russian financial institutions after they invaded Crimea. Now, by his own admissions, Trump was dealing with all these actors before and at the time.

The sanctions Obama imposed were likely violated by Trump and his associates since they had to do so to keep his empire afloat with cash. Now regardless of other issues, if he did business of any kind in violation of the USA's sanctions, this fact alone could or should do him in.

The real question then is:do the Republicans have the balls to join with Democrats and the intelligence community to impeach Trump for high crimes and misdemeanors?

[gordianot]

23. A new Cold War is a MIC dream.

I think it comes down to is Trump as mad as he projects. None of this happened in a vacuum, it does appear the Russians over stepped some boundaries. Trump has always appeared to be trash that has been kept around because he is useful. How else do you remain after all those bankruptcies? I hope he has become a liability scheduled for removal.

[Botany]

22. It was a coup and the players in it committed treason

The Russian were hacking into some of the state's voter data bases
and the the Trump team, the Russians, and Sec. of States who ran
"cross check" used that information to flip various elections including
the Presidential race.

Trump has cheated, lied, and conned his whole adult life and he does
not want his work with the Russians to steal the election exposed.

[ananda]

24. Why I think nothing is going to happen.

The intelligence agencies already know everything there is to know
about Trump, and they have the proof of his treason and criminality.

For reasons beyond my comprehension, they are holding onto it.

Since they haven't already acted on it or released it, then it seems
pretty clear to me that they never will.

[Grammy23]

25. For some time I have felt like the Intelligence agencies have uncovered

something earth shattering about Trump. Something so big that it would effectively stop his Presidency before it begins. Look at the way Trump has behaved since Election Day and in fact, through his campaign. He has been on a non-stop quest to make a mockery of our media sources. He has called them liars and untrustworthy. He needed to do that in order to undermine our confidence in the people who would be reporting anything "discovered" along the way about Trump and anyone associated with him.

Now he is using the same undermining tactics against our intelligence agencies, because I believe they have uncovered the truth about Trump. They know about his connections to Russia, his financial ties and the relationship he has with Putin. There is no other logical reason for Trump to behave the way he has acted. The truth is, they have TOO MUCH information and proof of what they know, so Trump is simply trying to blunt any power they have to out him.

He had to know that once the story broke about the Russian hacking there would be an investigation into what the Russians did and HOW they did it. So he has waged a war on the media and the intelligence agencies to try to minimize the damage to him.

I would like to think that the Senate hearings that began a few minutes ago would save us from the presidency of the monster who managed to steal the office even as we watched in stunned disbelief. However, I have lost my faith in our leaders to protect us from this kind of interference and criminal manipulation of our electoral process. I will be watching this unfold but sadly, do not have any confidence that Trump will be stopped before Inauguration Day. I hope I am wrong.

[66 dmhlt]

26. "Lots of people are saying ..."

[azureblue]

27. Trump knows

that the Russian hacking story will expose direct links back to him. But what Trump is most afraid of is exposing how much money he has borrowed from Russia. That is why he won't show his tax returns, why he doesn't want to divest himself from his business interests, and why he starts a tirade of distractions every time the spotlight swings that way.

He knows his goose will be cooked if that comes to light. It will result in him losing the presidency, an IRS investigation, and losing his backers who will call in their notes to be paid in full. This will bankrupt Trump, because he is not rich - his whole empire is a house of cards, a facade, and his reliance on Russian and Chinese loans has made him very vulnerable...

[HopeAgain]

28. Obama is not being kept in the dark...

He's still the acting president and I can't imagine he doesn't know what is going on. If there were some kind of smoking gun, they would have acted on it by now so it doesn't get buried in the new administration.

I like the speculation, but I'm afraid all we have are a bunch of fuzzy inferences that will not concern the Federal Government come inauguration day... Probably a better chance that the aliens from Xenon will decide to interfere and beam him off to the work camp prison on their second moon.

[bdamomma]

40. I think President Obama

is on this HE is still President.

[skip fox]

30. Here's what Tim Kaine said an hour or so ago (CNN):

"There is something very unusual -- indeed, even sort of suspicious -- about the degree to which he casually kicks aside the intelligence community when he won't even go to the briefings again and again and takes the Assange/Vladimir Putin line on this important question" about whether Russian was behind the election-related hacks,

[Pachamama]

45. Unusual and suspicious indeed...

He doth protesteth too much...

[ALBliberal]

32. Doesn't the CIA have access to his tax returns? Nt

[Pachamama]

46. I assume the CIA would have access to his colonoscopy if they wanted it

And found Putin there...

[TubbersUK]

34. Trump's latest Tweets on the subject

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
The dishonest media likes saying that I am in Agreement with Julian Assange - wrong. I simply state what he states, it is for the people....

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago
to make up their own minds as to the truth. The media lies to make it look like I am against "Intelligence" when in fact I am a big fan!

Backtracking?

[bdamomma]

39. you know I

hope trump head explodes because he is a freaking liar. I am trying not to use expletives, but its very hard not to use when typing about this jerk.

[TubbersUK]

35. Interesting news from Reuters

U.S. intelligence agencies obtained what they considered to be conclusive evidence after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday.

U.S. officials had concluded months earlier that Russian intelligence agencies had directed the hacking, but had been less certain that they could prove Russia also had controlled the release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-idUSKBN14P04P?il=0

[Eyeball_Kid]

36. Do the Dems have the balls to out Trump as a Russian asset?

The evidence is quite likely there for all to see. The intelligence services know exactly what's going on. They must also know what motivated Comey to get involved in media manipulation. Comey's announcements were not unrelated to Russian hacking and manipulating the election. Someone has dirt on Comey and blackmailed him: either you push the email issue or your head will be on a platter.

[yellowcanine]

41. My money is on Giuliani being in the thick of it all.

Giuliani was the intermediary between the Russians and Trump and he put the pressure on Comey with the help of FBI agents in the NY office.

[KittyWampus]

38. Dear SkipFox, thanks for posting this. It may possibly be so... I know you aren't a CT'er

and we both seem to be wondering same thing. As well as many others.

I guess we'll see.

Trump casting as much shade as possible before some damning Hard Evidence is out in some form or other.

[Wounded Bear]

42. I think they already have shit on him...

Think about it. Even if the CIA follows its mandate to not investigate Americans, in their intel gathering around the world Trump's name has to have come up in numerous deals all over the world. Trump can hide that shit as a civilian because his holdings are all family owned and not the traditional public corporate organization.

But, does anyone think that any major business deal that goes down in Russia, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Turkey, etc ad nauseum is not on the CIA's radar? NSA? Hell, he has even probed the Cubans for a deal.

I suspect Trump might exit his next intel "briefing" a few shades closer to yellow than orange. There has to be shit he doesn't want released that the intel community can use to go Sword of Damocles on him.

[moondust]

43. Possible.

NSA may have intercepts related to his business dealings in those countries and perhaps his visits abroad if he was considered suspicious.