About that "My Pillow" guy.. now in hot water

[annabanana]

for defrauding his customers .. and settling a lawsuit about health claims for his pillow...

I noticed that his appearance on TV, defending his "buy on get one" prices.. He does not have that big honking Cross around his neck... Either that or he's tucked it discreetly under his shirt.

If a businessman is waving a cross around.. check your wallet.

[malaise]

1. If someone boasts too much about their 'holiness'

lock up your silver

[Achilleaze]

2. It's truly sad how the Republicans have perverted the symbols of Christianity

...and how the Republicans have given the faith such a wretched reputation.

[annabanana]

4. I agree.

I've found some solace here:

http://epfnational.org/ (Episcopal Peace Fellowship)

[Equinox Moon]

3. Yes, he does have a big silver cross displayed around his neck

in the commercial.

His business is going to have a toilet year.

[Warren DeMontague]

5. Yeah, 10% of your monthly nut for a package of hot air is a pretty good scam, too.

So it's not just "businessmen" waving crosses around that should warrant Wallet-guarding. Just sayin'

[Vinca]

6. If you're going to be a huckster, you must have a large cross around your neck.

It's like attracting flies into a trap. A "certain segment" of the population will fall for anything.

[oasis]

7. With numerous awards from the National Sleep Foundation what

possibly could go wrong?

[Warren DeMontague]

8. DIRTY PILLOWS

[LWolf]

9. My pillow?

Mild ridiculousness compared to the one I saw yesterday: "Miracle Water." Yes. I saw this on my teevee.

[ProfessorGAC]

10. Maybe Someone Can Help Me Here

I read the post here yesterday about it and i'm not clear on what the fraud is. The BOGOF thing being the actual price, so if he overcharges most of the time, then puts on a buy one get one sale then it's ok?

Why is packaging it as 2 pillows for one price any different than not being able to buy just one "D" battery?

It just seems like a very obtuse point of law.

Or, did i miss something there is more to this regarding that company committing fraud?

(BTW: Yeah, the cross thing isn't popular with me either, but i don't care much about that, since he's not claiming jeebus wants you to buy his pillows.)

[annabanana]

11. the thing is

you can go into Bed Bath & Beyond any day and buy one of the pillows for significantly less than the "two for" price he advertises.

(on edit: I didn't post this yesterday)

[ProfessorGAC]

14. Thanks Anna

I did not know the BB&B sold them at a lower price. Still, if the choice is out there, i'm not finding anything in my business law references (a couple book from my MBA days) that makes this situation as fraud.

I must be missing something.

[Bettie]

12. I avoid businesses that have their little

"This is a Christian Run Business" signs or the Jesus fish in the ad or window.

Generally means that they will rip you off, in my experience.

[madokie]

13. A little off topic but here goes

Several years back I was in the market to buy a new ford f150, so I was making all the dealerships looking for what I wanted and talking to the salesmen. I finally come to a place where they had exactly what I wanted on their lot so I start talking deal with the salesman. He kept telling me and at one point pushing a bill of sale to me showing that they were only making 125 bucks on the sale. I know and you all know that dealers don't sell vehicles at such a close margin. At some point in our conversation I mention that it was obvious the invoice he was showing me was a form that the dealership had printed off putting in numbers that supported his contention that they were selling me this truck at such a good deal. Remember I've been to several dealers in the past month or so so I had a pretty good idea of what the truck sells for. I mention to him that that invoice he keeps referring back to really didn't mean anything to me as I explained to the man that I've already talked to several dealers and the prices were all over the board. I said that this invoice is something that is basically pulled out of his arse, numbers wise. He gets all beside himself and goes to telling me he is a Christian so why would he lie to me. I get up head for the door as in life I've found that when a person tries to use their belief in their God they were well on the way of giving me a good fu*king. by the time I got back to my f150 to leave I thought I was going to have to fight this so called Christian idiot to get out of there. I hope my response to his pulling his christian card out to sell me a truck opened his eyes to not try that option again. But who knows.

Another place I told them that I was going to pay cash for the down payment but the guy noticed I had a pretty good looking older f150 and inquired about if I wanted to trade it in. so I ask how much trade in he would give me and he said 2500 bucks, the truck was worth about that. But he said we'd have to start with new numbers so I say new numbers you just gave me the numbers based on my giving you a 2500 dollar down payment in cash. Oh he says we can't work from those numbers if you're going to trade this one in and I said why not and he hemmed and hawed and finally said something to the effect that they couldn't actually give me the 2500 buck credit for my old truck. So I say ok run the new numbers and come to find out they/he was only going to give me 500 bucks for my old truck but show on the invoice that they were giving me 2500 by jacking up the price of the truck I was to buy. I laughed said have a good day and walked out with him following me all the way to my truck and standing there looking at me bewildered realizing that he'd just fucked up and lost a sale. My plan was to give my old truck to my 16 year old Step son and thats what I did once I made a deal and bought the truck I still have today. This was back in '98 and i have 170,000 miles on that f150 and still drive it

The moral of the story is don't pull the religious card out on me when we're talking money or trades.

Peace
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