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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis story doesn't pass my sniff test
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141655895The players involved bring to mind undercover police disruptors at a protest march.
It could be false flag propaganda or an elaborate ruse for a gofundme campaign.
I'll wait for further details, but right now I'm not buying it.
spooky3
(34,457 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)demmiblue
(36,864 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)And it was on video.
What's there not to believe? The police actually arrested people.
Why did they do it? No idea, they look and sound like young idiots, which is likely the reason.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Stupidity + Evil
dagnuguy
(20 posts)in this world. Spend some time with a cop asking them about the evil people they deal with. In 16 years on the job there have been a few true evil people I have dealt with. We are at some level still just cavemen. Luckily most of us have evolved in our thinking.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)Please delete. It makes this place look bad.
SlimJimmy
(3,180 posts)It was on tape and four people have been arrested.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)Dig into their family members bank accounts, debts, ect...and you'll find mystery money and paid off debts.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)This is the stuff that makes democrats look obtuse and stupid.
Sometimes people perpetuate crimes that don't feed the narrative we'd like. They deserve full punishment.
This type of speculation is worthy of Alex Jones.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Sorry. Life isn't always convenient for your politics.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)sarisataka
(18,663 posts)the story is true as presented?
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Why else broadcast it?
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)didn't broadcast it. The perpetrators did.
Why broadcast it? To show people what badass shitheads they are.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)My thinking is Trump is doing too much talking about the federal government having to take over. Martial law declared?
Bonx
(2,053 posts)Intriguing.
I tried to post the image, but look at his 2nd tweet of this year
Bonx
(2,053 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I'm just saying it fits what he wants people thinking well. Maybe this is their reaction to his threat? Yes it is bad, but I'm looking at the big picture as a whole and it is strange.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)bc four assholes were successfully arrested and charged in this case?
Right. ::eye roll::
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Are you saying that you think they all sacrificed themselves to help Trump to justify declaring martial law?
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)But maybe they also got paid. Idk.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I'm questioning the motivations.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)with absolutely no reason to think so.
Sometimes people are simply criminal shithead idiots.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I broke a rule against posting conspiracy theories by posting my thought on the connection between Trumps tweet 2 days ago about the fed having to step in with Chicago and this attack being too convenient.
I won't discuss "conspiracy theories" again, even though it seems like a lot of them float around.
Dr. Strange
(25,921 posts)They've been charged with hate crimes and are going to be facing some serious prison time. If any money changed hands, we're going to be hearing about it during the trial.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)I mean, obviously the four assholes were supremely stupid in their video-taping and live-streaming it on FB. But there are immensely stupid people in the world. They were also using substances on the video, which goes to show they weren't operating at full capacity SMARTS.
These people are punks who got carried away. But in getting carried away they did something despicable. They were arrested for their actions. I hope they throw themselves on the mercy of the courts, but they deserve full punishment for this.
They took a boy with SPECIAL NEEDS and pulled this shit on him. That poor kid. He's going to be affected by this for the rest of his life.
xor
(1,204 posts)What kind of proof or evidence do you need?
I understand being skeptical when stories first break, because you never know for sure what will happen. However, the police held a conference after investigating it and they arrested the people behind the video.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)as well. It is despicable and it has a real victim if it is accurate. You are essentially, with no real information, attacking the victim as a fraud.
You say you are waiting for more details, but only after you mention police "disrupters" , a gofundme rush (ie fraud) on the part of the alleged victim and you use the claim of it being a "false flag"operation. If there is one phrase I think I would prefer NEVER to hear, without smoking gun proof (and no Alex Jones would not count). That phrase REEKS of conspiracy theory claims.
I think the elevated hate generated in the election on the right may have produced an equally terrible elevated hate among some populations targeted by the Trump haters. My biggest concern is that Trump might further incite both sides - and even if he did have the vision to see where that goes and how it will destroy his Presidency, I wonder if he has the skills needed to tamp down the anger on even his own side.
Ask yourself this - Have you ever seen the WINNING side still so angry AFTER they won?
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Oneironaut
(5,504 posts)There's a pervasive idea on the internet that, if a story disrupts my narrative, it cannot possibly be true. It must be the work of the enemy!
It's beyond ridiculous.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Last edited Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)
for why this is real.
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romanic
(2,841 posts)Stupid evil people do stupid evil shit on social media. There was a story of some crazy chick and her friend chasing down a girl they had beef with on Snapchat. Last year a dude straight up got shot on FB Live from someone he had beef with.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)this story ranks just about dead last.
Sorry.
Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)There might be something wrong with your nose.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)Throd 2.0
(62 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)The parents drop their special needs child off at McDonald's on Christmas Eve. He doesn't come home for Christmas and he's missing for days before they file a missing persons report.
Details are now coming out that the kidnap victim and one of the perps went to school together.
I think there's more to this tale than what we know from today's news reports.
sarisataka
(18,663 posts)"What we have seen as surfacing, I think, are a lot of problems that have been there a long time," Obama told Chicago's WBBM-TV Ch. 2 in a prearranged interview in Washington. "Whether it's tensions between police and communities, (or) hate crimes of the despicable sort that has just now recently surfaced on Facebook."
or is the President being duped by an elaborate ruse?
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)Yes, I'm still sniffing
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/01/police_beating_of_mentally_dis.html
sarisataka
(18,663 posts)everyone is, essentially, a paid actor to make the black community look bad? Or were only the perpetrators paid and the victim was innocent and unaware? O,r most deviously, the victim is the actor who enticed the four into the assault?
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)xor
(1,204 posts)and that there isn't a larger conspiracy at play? Like, what exactly are you looking for? Would a confession by the suspects be enough?