The republicans want to repeal the ACA, but don't know what to do about a replacement. Simple

[still_one]

MEDICARE FOR ALL

The system is already in place.

Millions of healthy people would be added to enrollment roster which will keep the system cost effective, actually strengthen Medicare, and more than counter balance those that have more need of care.

For Social Security, simply raise the CAP.

[BeyondGeography]

1. But that's a liberal idea

They want everyone to own their own health care, except for the gold-plated government-paid care they'll receive for the rest of their precious lives.

[stopbush]

2. Were that it were that simple.

For instance, you say that "miilions of healthy people would be added to the enrollment roster." Excuse me? Those millions are already paying into Medicare. They just haven't reached the age where they can avail themselves of Medicare. At present, the funds collected from 100% of workers generates enough cash to support 19% of the population receiving Medicare. The only way to collect enough money to support 100% of the population on Medicare would be to raise everyone's current contribution by at least 400%.

And you haven't accounted for the fact that Medicare recipients today are the elderly who have limited life spans. If the average person lives to be 80, you're talking about funding the program for 15 years of post-65 life. How much more money would be needed to fund a program that covers people from age 18 until death? I don't know, but covering people for 45 years more than the average Medicare patient is now covered would bring significant expenses.

Agree that the fix for SS is to lift or eliminate the cap.

[WinkyDink]

4. Ahem. See: "Budget, Pentagon." Priorities ("Promote the General Welfare") are what we make them.

[stopbush]

8. You make my point.

Thank you.

[still_one]

7. We all pay into medicare, but when you reach 65, you also pay for B

in the form of premiums. Supplemental and Part D are additional, if so chosen

Depending on your income, the Part B is required, and the premium is around 100/month

Part A is already paid up, but most of the costs come from Part B, Supplemental, and Part D

Part B covers :

Medically necessary services: Services or supplies that are needed to diagnose or treat your medical condition and that meet accepted standards of medical practice.
Preventive services: Health care to prevent illness (like the flu) or detect it at an early stage, when treatment is most likely to work best

Part A covers inpatient care at a hospital, skilled nursing facility, and in certain limited circumstances at home.

[stopbush]

9. Yes. Doesn't change at all the challenges I outlined in my post.

[still_one]

11. I think what I am saying is still viable, even using your argument. Most people are

healthy, and those younger even more so. The vast majority of the younger populace would never use Part A. Also, as long as someone is working, they will still be paying into Medicare and Social Security

For people to get full coverage they will still need to pay for Part B, Supplemental, and Part D, unless they elect some sort of advantage plan.

I also don't buy that premiums will go up 400%. More healthy people will be in the pool, and use less of there service.

Bottom line though, it is a moot issue, because it won't happen, but theoretically I think it is very doable

[stopbush]

12. Healthy people have babies. Lots of them. Seniors do not.

Young people engage in many activities that invite accidental injury, etc.

Putting everyone into Medicare is no panacea. It is doable, of course, but we need to be realistic about the costs and liabilities involved. It would not be as simple as just signing up everyone into the program.

[Qutzupalotl]

13. Keep in mind the savings from eliminating private health insurance premiums.

Yes, costs of administering Medicare will go up, but overall per-person costs will be lower because private health insurance will not suck profits from the equation. Taxes will need to go up accordingly, which is why this will have to be implemented by a responsible party that does not have a knee-jerk doctrinaire response to raising taxes — so we'll have to wait. But the former premiums minus the additional tax should come out to a net positive for most people. We would no longer be paying for golden parachutes for healthcare CEOs, for instance.

[WinkyDink]

3. No, no, no. The REAL deal is this: REPUBLICANS PLAN NO REPLACEMENT. All of the rest is

theatre.

[still_one]

5. smoke and mirrors

[HassleCat]

6. Just say no.

Don't get sick. If you think the germs are after you, pray to Jesus.

[ProfessorGAC]

10. Idiot Woman On CSPAN Today. . .

. . .says she tired of democrats saying the republicans have no plan and insists they have a plan and we aren't paying attention.

However, the reason why i think they have no plan is that REPUBLICAN CONGRESSPEOPLE SAID THEY DON'T HAVE A PLAN YET!

This is how delusional their base of support has become. Blaming dems for saying there is not plan but the dems are simply repeating what the repubs said.

What an idiot.