'no one is questioning the results of the election'

[spanone]

i'm really tired of hearing this...

the truth is that the russian hacking COULD have changed the election....we'll just never know.

[Chasstev365]

1. I feel your frustration

Why the Democrats aren't raising hell is beyond me. How many times are they going to put up with the stealing of elections by Republicans?

[Laurian]

2. I questioned the results on election night!

All I could think was, "No! Something evil has happened. This is not right." I kept expecting a correction of the reporting.

I still believe that the election was rigged and I'm dumbfounded that we are told to accept the "results" no matter how they came about.

[TheMastersNemesis]

5. No Question The Election Was Stolen. The 4 Blue States Flipping Like They Did Not Possible.

The fact that the last 4 swing states flipped like they did with just enough votes after the polls showed big leads for Hillary is just plain bullshit. The odds of that happening JUST like it did was as probably as winning the big lottery. Yet no one really questioned it seriously in the MSM. They portrayed it as a miracle win. Again bullshit. And there were thousands of uncounted ballots that were NOT reported. They stole 5 or 6 critical states outright.

Colorado is a mail in state and has NO voter suppression and Hillary won on the poll margin.

[roamer65]

7. You are right.

[rock]

18. Agreed

When you're right, you're right!

[2naSalit]

19. Precisely.

[Ace Rothstein]

21. Not sure I agree.

All of the states in the Great Lakes area outside of Illinois saw a big swing towards Trump. It wasn't only the swing states.

[yallerdawg]

29. There were an awful lot of Sander's supporters...

in those Rust Belt states who did exactly what they said they would do, especially after the Comey letter the week before the election.

Russian/Republican/rightwing propaganda contributed, and the votes of a relative handful made the difference.

[triron]

31. A statistical analysis done

by Ron Baiman, Ph. D. found 24 of 28 states where exit polls were done trended
toward Trump in the actual vote count. This would happen about once in over 52000 years. Also every single swing state trended toward Trump in this way.

[BlueCaliDem]

3. Correction! No one IN THE MEDIA is questioning the election. And they really should!

Now media are trying to kill the 'questioning' of tRump's legitimacy by hammering home that Russian hacking had no influence on voters. Where the fuck are their brains?? OF COURSE Russian hacking and Wikileaks propagandizing influenced the election results! Only a gullible American (and there are still FAR TOO many) would believe this past election was 'legit'.

[spanone]

4. i just heard a democratic rep. say this on m$nbc...not the media

i also heard it throughout the hearing this morning

[Grammy23]

8. Yes, me, too. And it made my blood boil.

Is this a "show" so we who believe something terrible happened to sway the election (when so many were expecting Clinton to win handily and DID in the popular vote) will be satisfied that it was investigated?? Are we supposed to accept their quick notation that the election results were not impacted? Then WHAT, pray tell, was their goal? Please explain. It isn't going to be that easy to make us move along since there is "nothing to see here".

[BlueCaliDem]

9. It's because the media have pushed this narrative from day 1. And Democrats aren't exactly

courageous officials who'll challenge that notion especially since the media have pushed and pushed to have Hillary promise to abide by the election results (and did a tiny nudge with tRump, who then refused to answer, and they let him slide) - something that gets my blood boiling.

[JHan]

30. They were complicit spreading propaganda and took the view that all the leaks were newsworthy..

Much of the reporting on the leaks was just plain irresponsible. M$M now desperately trying to absolve culpability.

[HassleCat]

6. True, but not for the right reasons

We're not seriously questioning the election because we might find our elections are subject to the same sorts of manipulation we criticize in other countries. Our faces would be red if we found out El Salvador runs cleaner elections than we do. And that looks entirely possible. We just don't want to know about it.

[brooklynite]

10. Correct: nobody -IS- challenging the outcome of the election....

...other than some opinionated bloggers.

No candidate is challenging it.

No Party leader is challenging it.

No campaign manager is challenging it.

And they are DEFINITELY not claiming that "hacking" meant "hacking voting machines".

No evidence it happened. No allegation that it happened by people with the experience to know.

[spanone]

11. we'll never know.

[brooklynite]

12. ...in the absence of "knowing", I'll stick to my opinion that it didn't happen...

...just like, in the absence of evidence of a deity, I'll stick to my opinion that it doesn't exist.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[spanone]

25. your prerogative

[Amaryllis]

14. Nothing to see here...move along.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

17. +a brazillion. nt

[loyalsister]

20. Thank you!!

It's the legal stuff we should focus on. Yes Russia and Comey very well could have influenced the election. But, the leaks and Comey's announcement, while reprehensible and damaging, were not illegal. Assange's hacking is another story.
Gerrymandering is also legal in most states.
Thus, civil and legally institutionalized barriers to voting have been the most influential and easily manipulated by republicans. Playing dirtier in elections will only make us more vulnerable to things like Russian leaks as it will be more and more acceptable to winners.

We have to clean up our act regarding the election process and what is legal and civilly accepted.

[3catwoman3]

13. Oh, yes we are.

And will continue to do so.

[bigbrother05]

15. Voters overwhelmingly wanted ACA repealed

Listing GOP lies/spin?

[uponit7771]

16. I am !! James COMEY !!!

[TheFrenchRazor]

22. i hear you... kicking. nt

[ConnorMarc]

23. What are you questioning exactly?

Trump won, and he won because more people in the states outside of California voted for him. That is a fact.

Michael Moore had it right, and he was screaming for people to listen to him, they didn't. They heard him, but they didn't listen.

He was warning us about the reality of Trump winning for months...MONTHS!

No one took him seriously.

Who in here honestly thought Trump would win or even had a chance of winning? I know I didn't.

We all ignored the hacking story, because we felt it didn't matter because Hillary would still win.

Obama didn't address it, he should have.

The DNC didn't make a big stink of it, they should have.

The content of the hacks sure didn't help, and I'm certain that's why the above two didn't make a stink of it, because they wanted to sweep it under the rug. We all KNOW that Hillary and her camp wanted it swept away.

That's where it went wrong.

You can't now act like you don't know why or act confused, it's done.

We live amongst a nation of crazy, scared and quite prejudiced if not outright racist white people who preferred Trump's bigotry over the Democrat's promises and rhetoric of so-called unity.

If we don't take serious stock of what happened, be TRUTHFUL and HONEST about it, it's going to repeat and/or only get worse for us as Democrats.

Sentiments like this thread isn't the way forward.

Check out Michael Moore for a better way to move forward.

*rant over, drops mic*

[malaise]

24. Whenever exit polls suddenly go wrong

I smell a rat

[AirmensMom]

26. Damn right!

I AM questioning the results of the sham election.

[ffr]

27. Ask yourself this

If the Kremlin had helped Bill Clinton win his second term in 1996 and he won by the slimmest of margins, just 77,000 votes in three states, what would be all over the news headlines and how would all the republicans you know look upon you?

Imagine that! That is where we should be at. This should be 24/7 hair-on-fire news and any person siding with the Kremlin should be viewed as aiding and abetting an adversary to the United States of America.

[Va Lefty]

28. Don't expect MSM to do anything but talk about the orderly transfer of power being sacrosanct

[MFM008]

32. I am

The MSM falling all over to legitimize bloat bag.