This explains a SHITLOAD.

[yodermon]

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/8/1618369/-This-Image-Explains-The-ACA-Debate-I-Hear-Every-Day

[treestar]

1. LOL you have to be a special kind of dumb

To think Obama would have signed into law a new law about health care that the Republicans had come up with.

[ProfessorGAC]

34. I Was Thinking. . .

. . ."somebody tell me this is a gag." I guess that's overly optimistic.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

2. Wow!

*mindblown*

Wonder how many other people believe the same thing? Well, I guess that a lot of people in Kentucky honestly believed that Kynect had nothing to do with ACA when they elected Bevin either. A lot of Trump voters also didn't seem to take Trump very seriously during the campaign about his pledge to repeal PPACA.

[LiberalLovinLug]

81. That's why it was a stupid mistake

For Democrats, even Obama, to also call it Obamacare. They should have stubbornly stuck with tha Affordable Care Act

[mazzarro]

99. And also Democrats hardly campaigned to sell it as well...

[spanone]

3. Good God.

[lastlib]

23. Do. NOT. Let. This guy. Play. With. Subatomic Particles.......

...or Vote!

Holy Moley, what a stoopid Futhermucker.....!

[dixiegrrrrl]

39. And yet...he can legally get guns, and drive, perhaps hold a job, can vote

and can breed.
Just like his friends.

[NBachers]

48. And procreate from multiple relatives.

[Different Drummer]

67. And probably has done just that. n/t

[unblock]

4. "you dense motherfucker"

i'm sorry but







i really shouldn't laugh, this is very sad, really, but

[HughBeaumont]

12. Let me join in:

[Bettie]

5. I've heard people say pretty much the same thing

and every time, I wonder if they were dropped on their heads a lot as babies.

[barbtries]

45. really?

because i am really wanting to verify that this is genuine. sounds like it really might be. wow. wow

[Bettie]

47. This summer, neighbor and her cousin at the pool

They were talking about Obamacare and how we need to get rid of it, maybe use the ACA instead, because that is a good plan.

Oh, and to make it much, much scarier....one of them is an RN.

But, I live in a very red part of Iowa.

[barbtries]

49. omigawd.

were you able to set them straight?

[Bettie]

57. I tried, I really did

but I am pretty sure none of it got through.

Both of them were early Trump humpers.

[Ruby the Liberal]

83. In Kentucky, they were having trouble selling Kynect

until they rebranded it as a "state plan" and "not Obamacare"

Steve Beshear (Dem former Governor) has been repeatedly quoted as saying that he didn't like the deception, but they did what they had to do in order to get people enrolled.

Vox did a followup the week after the election throughout rural Kentucky and quoted one person after another who had no clue that their Kynect and Obamacare were the same thing.

[MindPilot]

6. That cannot be real...is it?

Even that middle school graduate whittling on the front porch in some flyover state whose vote counts 3 time more than mine can't be THAT stupid, can they?

[kcr]

19. It's the internet so you have to be skeptical. But this could easily be real.

As sad as that is.

[NewJeffCT]

25. Remember a few years back

the Daily Show had a segment about how people in Kentucky loved KYNECT, the Kentucky state version of the Affordable Care Act. However, these same people hated Obamacare.

[wordpix]

29. low info voters are a danger to society. Bring back mandatory civics class

Which should be required 4 yrs. of HS. At least some students will get it by HS graduation that they need to be informed before they spout off what their parents, good buds, or Faux news tells them.

[Cracklin Charlie]

37. I find this so very sad.

Something must be done to reach these people.

It's like hari kari by voting.

[Nay]

73. The problem is that RW nutter teachers will flock to civics classes to make sure

the kids get the "correct" information. That's what they've done in science classes so they can sneak in their crap about evolution.

[progressoid]

43. Yes, they can be that stupid. Remember these protesters before ACA?

[barbtries]

46. you're right.

this is probably real. loss for words.

[dixiegrrrrl]

106. I am wondering how those folks feel NOW about Trump loving Russia.

'Cause you know they think "Communist Russia" is a thing.

[NastyRiffraff]

87. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's real

I know it's anecdotal, but I've heard the same shit from a couple of people. Educated people, except maybe from Liberty U. I thought they were kidding and started laughing. They were pissed. Tried to set them straight, but I guess they were too angry to listen, plus I was trying to talk through my guffaws.

[Else You Are Mad]

7. I am certain that the vast majority...

of republican voters likewise believe that the ACA and Obamacare are two different things. There is a reason the right dubbed the ACA "Obamacare" and this is part of it. The other part is the racists cannot stand 'being forced' to buy insurance from something named after a black man.

[hedda_foil]

52. I'm with you that a significant plurality of the Obamacare haters don't know it's the ACA

I think Obama made a mistake by accepting the nickname.

[yardwork]

69. What possible difference could it have made if he had protested?

I'm sorry to jump on your post, but I'm tired of hearing "Obama made a mistake not explaining better..." when there is a ton of evidence that many people don't listen, can't learn, don't want to know the truth.

[mazzarro]

100. I think that fighting back and refusing the renaming

Is much taken by the average Joe as indication of the parties to stand for their principle. And in the successfull branding of ACA the reThugs were probably seen as the once more determined.

[yardwork]

101. This seems to be the latest right wing talking point.

It's bullshit.

[0rganism]

59. and when the GOP repeals "Obamacare"...

... they'll have their goons on Fox and Breitbart blame Democrats for gutting the ACA.

[Else You Are Mad]

60. Without a doubt.

I wouldn't doubt that the far right will blame Obama for repealing Obamacare.

[RedWedge]

8. I'm wondering if this is for real.

Consistently excellent spelling and grammar (except for a couple places) and a lack of all-caps in every comment.

[JHan]

10. lol lol lol lol lol

[wordpix]

30. difficulty knowing if it's real or not is appropos re: current state of national stupidity

just sayin

[RedWedge]

31. If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

[Different Drummer]

68. Good point. That does raise suspicion. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

98. That was my thought, too.

People that clueless usually have a bit more trouble with things like spelling, paragraph construction and sentence structure.

[lostnfound]

9. This has to be urban myth, right?

Is it fake?

[wordpix]

32. note date and time - Sunday, 10 am - and no one there hardly---I call fake

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. LMAO! His insurance is through the ACA, not Obamacare, so stop saying that.

The ACA is what they had to come up with after Obamacare crashed as bad as it did..... He'll be just fine.

[LonePirate]

13. Not surprising at all. There are millions who think the ACA and Obamacare are two different bills.

Except for possibly their bigotry, nothing surpasses the stupidity of the typical right winger nowadays.

[ProfessorPlum]

14. You know he's not the only one who thinks the ACA and Obamacare are two different things

how f*cked we are.

[FailureToCommunicate]

15. Maybe he'd like it better if it was called what we call it here in Massachusettes: "RomneyCare"

[Fast Walker 52]

16. seriously, we're all going to die because people are so brainwashed and clueless

[NCTraveler]

17. Mind. Fucking. Blown. nt.

[barbtries]

18. omigawd is that for real?

that is so funny, and so fucking sad.

[salin]

21. My reaction as well.

geeez

[KG]

97. a salin sighting!

hi, salin!

[salin]

104. Hi KG

I'm still poking around.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

20. Oh I LOVE this!!!!

Oh yaaaaaassssssssssss!

[Moral Compass]

22. Can't possibly be for real!

This can't be a real conversation. Borowitz or The Onion.

[LostinRed]

24. Wow I never knew ppl thought this

Is their s fake news story saying they're two different laws or are they just dumb

[skypilot]

26. Jimmy Kimmel...

...shined a light on this a while back. Sad, funny and scary all at the same time.

[progressoid]

40. I have a hard time finding the humor in this anymore.

These people just decided our election.

[skypilot]

50. I hear you.

My "sad, funny and scary" comment was a description of how I felt about it back when I first saw it, which was well before the election. I didn't rewatch the video after I posted it. I just remembered the segment when I saw this thread. I'm sure the humor of it will have been drained for me as well.

[CrispyQ]

76. Yeah, the funny has worn off.

After the election I was morose for days. Then the Biden/Obama tweet memes came out & I was able to smile & laugh for the first time in days. I still look for things to make me laugh, but this type of video isn't funny anymore.

[forgotmylogin]

27. So they were TOTALLY fine that Obamacare was getting the boot...

since they had their ACA to fall back on!

[IronLionZion]

28. What if they got rid of Obamacare, kept the PPACA

and called it Trumpcare! Then what?

Trump has said good things about single payer before. It would be hilarious if he tries to give us single payer as an alternative since it is the pro-business plan that would lower costs for job creators the most.

[wordpix]

35. Jared and Invanka will figure it out, don't worry

sounds good to me, your idea that is

[anarch]

58. hell, maybe we can have full-on nationalized healthcare...

if we just let the megalomaniac put his name on all the hospitals.

[CrispyQ]

78. I believe that Obama came out today & said that would be terrific -

if they renamed it Trumpcare & improved on it - he'd be cool with that. That's how he rolls. Not like the goddamned human mess that is about to move into the White House.

[cyclonefence]

33. Finally this is getting some traction

I've been posting A LOT over in the poor hardworking miners thread that this belief that Obamacare and ACA are two different things is widespread and surely lost us votes. And the Republicans didn't even have to lie; all they had to do was avoid using the term Affordable Care Act.

How the HELL did Democratic operatives not realize this was going on? Hillary could have made this a major point in the debates, saying over and over that they are the same thing. Somebody really shit in the pudding on this one.

[yodermon]

36. Obama himself has commented on this phenomenon. I think he was specifically referring

to Kentucky. I'll look for a link.
on edit:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/obama-huffington-post_n_3984889.html

“There’s a story that came out of Kentucky where some folks were signing people up at a county fair somewhere, and some guy goes up and he starts looking at the rates and decides he’s going to sign up,” Obama said. “And he turns to his friend and said, ‘This is a great deal. This is a lot better than Obamacare.’”

[Ruby the Liberal]

84. She probably didn't think that people were that blitheringly stupid

[Lucinda]

38. Lord...I wish we knew who this was..,.would love to see how they are reacting now...

[HAB911]

41. Now that's some funny shit right there, I don't care where you are from........n/t

[hadEnuf]

42. I believe that this exchange may be real.

If a person relies solely on right wing media for their information, they are not going to know their ass from their elbow about much.

This case may be extreme, but it fits the RW media brainwashing result they are pushing for.

[Xipe Totec]

44. First, they destroyed the education system

Then they destroyed the free press.

So they can do this.

[flamingdem]

51. Yes, I actually do feel sorry for them

because they cannot analyze information and are so, so lost in lies

[IronLionZion]

53. Oh I know an insurance broker who hated Obamacare vehemently

until it improved her sales tremendously. She voted Trump but is very worried about repeal.



And yes, many red-leaning American believe all their improved benefits and access and new state marketplace and new urgent care centers came about in spite of Obamacare, which is socialism or Obammunism.

No joke, a clogged sewer pipe was blamed on Obama, because he forces us to use low flow toilets. Trump will save us from green destruction.

And remember coal rollers exist. Red America is a completely different planet to many of us who live in liberal cities.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

54. On the one hand, it's like when you hear about elderly people who sent money to

the Nigerian Prince or some other scam and you feel sorry for them, even if you cannot understand how they could possibly be so stupid. And, the RW propaganda machine is far more sophisticated than the usual scammers.

But, at least falling for phishing scams basically hurts just them and their families. This kind of idiocy hurts millions! Take some responsibility and get out of the bubble, you RW stooges!

[Initech]

55. Obamacare*IS* the ACA, you fucking dumbasses!!!!!

And the republicans created it! Obama wanted a real, full single payer system which the republicans kept whittling down to what we have now. This is their creation. They own it! And they'll destroy what they did give us!

[WestCoastDem42]

56. Typical wingnut voter

This is what a typical low information right wing voter would do and say. Unbelievable! Almost too good a story to be true.

[oasis]

61. Dems should implement a national register of deaths which occur

as a result of ACA repeal.

[CousinIT]

62. The U-nited States of STUPID. n/t

[matt819]

63. It's like the idiots in Kentucky

a few years back that Obamacare should just stay the fuck away from their Kynect (do I have that right?).

Small problem, of course. The Kynect was made available via, you guessed it, Obamacare.

And then there are the idiots who said they just didn't believe trump and the Christian extremists when they said they would abolish Obama care.

So, as the meme goes, trump supporters also lost the election - they just don't know it yet.

BTW, I'm sure there are smart people in Kentucky - it's just that this story is one I remember.

[AwakeAtLast]

64. "I'm gonna be fine"

This is every Trump voter. Every. One.

[renate]

82. yes, exactly

Smug complacency and "I got mine, you go die" in four words.

[AJT]

65. That's the evil plan

How ingenious. Constanly demonize something called Obamacare, nener use ACA, then repeal the evil Obamacare and when the rubes Trump voters lose their healthcare, say that the Democrats got rid of the ACA as revenge for the Republicans repealing Obamacare. Seriously, I think that's what will happen and Fox, Right-wing radio, Breitbart, etc will back that up. Since Trumpsters only listen to right-wing news that is what they will believe.

[yardwork]

71. It reminds me of when the Republicans shut down the government and

People said that Obama shut the national parks and monuments "to get revenge."

I guess we now know that there has been a mass disinformation campaign and millions believe every word.

[CrispyQ]

80. You nailed their narrative!

And it will work!

Welcome to DU!

[orangecrush]

66. It would be funny

If it wasn't true.

[YOHABLO]

70. We've got kids graduating with shit for brains in this country.

They will believe anything they're told.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

74. It's not just young people!

Here's a couple stories of my former co-workers that I recently shared here. They were not young!

I assure you that these are TRUE stories! I just hope that the people described are among the dumbest 1% in the country or something.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=59214

I worked at a factory where an immigrant from Russia (she was an Ahiskan Turk) was preparing for her citizenship test. I looked through the booklet and said, "Wow, these questions are easy!"

A Vietnamese-American in the area overheard me and said, "I guarantee with you... those stupid women over there don't know answers!" I replied, "They wouldn't know there's 50 stars on the flag or that the stars represent the 50 states? C'mon!" He answered, "Mudda fugga, I work with them before. You ask them at break!" (He often used "mudda fugga" to start his sentences, by the way.)

The three white women in question were about 45 to 60 years of age, and their typical work consisted of cleaning parts and packaging them.

Long story short, they did NOT seem to know anything! I eventually asked, "Okay, who was the first President of the United States? You know that one, right?" Nope! "He's on the one dollar bill! Who is that?" One of them replied, "We're not in school anymore!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8450585

A Vietnamese-American co-worker was asked by other co-workers how he arrived in this country. He started to mention part of his travel on a boat and someone interjected, "Oh! I think I saw that on TV years ago! Were you one of those boat people who kept showing up in Florida?" He silently stared at her for a moment and then changed gears. "I mostly swim here! I swim across Pacific ocean! I'm number one, world-class swimmer!" Several people asked him if that's what he really did! He looked over at me, shook his head and smirked.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

72. I'm not too surprised, given some of my really dumb co-workers.

[CrispyQ]

75. I've encountered two people who didn't realize that the ACA is Obamacare is the ACA.

[grantcart]

77. One out of 3 people in Kentucky don't understand the diffeence.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/205829-poll-kentucky-likes-its-health-exchange-but-not-obamacare

[grantcart]

79. I talked with two persons of color, one AA and one naturalized hispanic

that were Trump supporters. When I pointed out that he is clearly bigoted they said they didn't think so.

When I pointed out that his persistent practice of trying to claim that President Obama was born in Africa could only be motivated by racial bias they disagreed saying that they thought he might have been born there.

When I asked them how a white college girl living in Hawaii got to Kenya at the same time she was attending college and no one knew about it they stunned me with their response, "his mother was white?".

Had similar conversations with dozens of ignorant white folks. We have a large segment of the voting public who could not correctly answer the kinds of questions I had to know when I was in the third grade about the current President. It is all very depressing.

[hunter]

86. Let me guess... Evangelicals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism

Their preachers told them that Trump is the Chosen One, and that's how they voted.

But other religions are not immune.

My parents used to live in a very Republican part of California. We'd go to Mass there occasionally when visiting and every time it was a diatribe against abortion, or gay marriage, and every other right wing talk radio meme of the week. Some of the older people were still complaining about Vatican II, and they'd kneel for communion, even a few who weren't even born then. I'm sure they hate Pope Francis, I'm sure they hate Hillary Clinton, and I'm sure they make Black and Hispanic visitors feel very uncomfortable.

We went to Mass enough times to know it was always like that. Plus, the priest was an asshole when my great uncle passed away. He did the bare minimum, going through the motions, and all but said he thought my great uncle was burning in hell so we shouldn't be like him.

But we had a nice wake. My great uncle had many friends and I'm sure he made the world a better place... which is more than I can say about that church.

I'm the worst heretic you know... I got that from my mom. She'd met a venal, chain smoking, hard drinking, and worst of all, leering priest when she was young and innocent and seventeen and she never got over it. Which is how she ended up with the Jehovah's Witnesses, until she declared war on them too. My own late teen and early adulthood religious experiences were the David Lynch version of "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" that left me bleeding on the road after I jumped out of my girlfriend's moving car in Berkeley. I'm totally PTSD about it, and it's tripped me up a few times since, once when my wife and I were driving on the same street, and we were arguing about some stupid thing, and it all flooded back, and I jumped out of the car again, but not when it was moving, mostly because I was driving. And then again, another time...

[Flatpicker]

85. This life

hurts my brain.

[tiredtoo]

88. Not that it makes a difference but

I had a similar debate with a lady on Facebook. she unfriended me. probably a good thing.

[C Moon]

89. That is PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!

[MontanaMama]

90. It's not funny anymore.

Ignorance of the issues and unwillingness to learn will kill many of us and quite possibly contribute to the overthrow of our country.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

92. No, it's not.

Beyond affecting our elections and possibly leading us to ultimate destruction, willful ignorance is emotionally distressing!

[Tatiana]

91. True. Take a look at Kentucky.

Many ignorant people there don't realize that their Kynect is the Medicaid expansion form of Obamacare. They think they'll be just fine if ACA is repealed.

[Missn-Hitch]

93. Water is wet. No, it's not.

Get used to it.

[OldYallow]

94. Inbreeding Works

Cantcha tell?

[Amimnoch]

95. It's our only consolation prize.

That people like this are going to suffer along with us.

The stupid... it hurts.

[ImBushed]

96. Not a Surprise

Prior to the election I got into an argument with a neighbor/Trump supporter. I concluded the exchange with my chin on my chest in awe by the unadulterated ignorance and stupidity I witnessed from someone whom I thought had a brain!

[hells]

102. These people

believe alex jones and infowars, i.e. they think that Obama is a muslim who is also leading a pedophile ring and Hillary is murdering people and is a lizard in disguise. What do you really expect ?

[Javaman]

103. I wouldn't have blacked out that stupid bastards name. I would let the whole world know just how

colossally fucking stupid he is.

we have to stop being polite.

[EarthFirst]

105. Yikes! nt

[Javaman]

107. want to stop this stupidity by the right wing?

start a massive information campaign to let the morons of this nation understand that the ADA is the same exact fucking thing as Obamacare.

[Blue_Tires]

108. So why hide names? These people deserve to be outed and scorned

[ffr]

109. *** Sigh ***

https://twitter.com/HelenKennedy/status/818522209283178498



https://twitter.com/charles_gaba/status/818542339287318528