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Nick Sa(t)an reminds me of Donald Drumpf and I'm glad he lost. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 OP
Wow. You obviously know nothing... Whiskeytide Jan 2017 #1
I know he is an inveterate liar and a hypocrite. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #2
Ughhh. THIS again! First... Whiskeytide Jan 2017 #3
I see you never addressed his hypocrisy regarding LeBron James DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #4

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. I know he is an inveterate liar and a hypocrite.
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 12:08 PM
Jan 2017
Wow. You obviously know nothing...

... about Saban and the Alabama football program.



Seems DSB knows more about Ole Nick and the Alabama football program than you, ergo:



Nick S(a)tan's lie- When he was the head coach of the Miami Dolphins he said he wasn't interviewing for any other job. He was interviewing for another job and took the Bama job within days.

Nick S(a)tan' s hypocrisy- He criticized LeBron James for leaving the Cavaliers in the lurch and going to the Heat when he had left the Miami Dolphins in a lurch.

All this has been discussed endlessly in the press.

The vaunted Alabama football team was one of the last teams to integrate and Paul "Bear" Bryant never used his tremendous popularity to challenge George Wallace.

Go Clemson, baby.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
3. Ughhh. THIS again! First...
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 05:03 PM
Jan 2017

... Saban never really lied to anyone. He had not actually interviewed for the job, but there had been discussions between Mal Moore and Saban's people, and perhaps a direct telephone call or two. Did he carefully choose his words and perhaps do a little two step to keep the fact that he wanted to leave a secret? Sure. But that just hi-lights the difficulty presented for a coach who is still coaching a team with post season possibilities when the press won't stop asking about whether he's leaving. There is no good way to respond to those questions.

Do you know why he wanted to return to the college game? I do. Because he felt he could make a difference in the lives of these young college men (and by all accounts he certainly has at Alabama - the "process" is a life building thing, not just a gridiron thing) as opposed to the NFL stars who don't like to be told what to do - especially by a coach who, more often than not, makes less money than they do and has less job security. Saban DOES like to be the boss and do it his way - and the pro game is not set up for a coach like that. But doing it his way has spiked the graduation rate for players at Bama, and the testimonials of his players are enough to convince me that he is pretty damn popular within the program.

Do you have any idea how many charitable organizations he is involved with? Any idea? His wife too. It is off the charts. Google it. He travels the country on such things quite a bit. Much more so than most coaches. He does more for his players and those around him than any single person I know, let alone the coach at a major conference school. And he respects his wife - crediting her with every success he's ever had. Google and watch some of his speeches at charitable fundraising events. You will be impressed with his commitment, work ethic and decency.

As for integration, Alabama integrated in '71 - the 6th or 7th team in the SEC to do so. (Btw, Marion Reeves played his first game for Clemson in September 1971 - so if that's your reason for hating on Bama, you have to hate on Clemson too - otherwise you're as much a hypocrite as any coach, right?).

This was the South, and the political obstacles in the late 60's and early 70's far outweighed any academic institutions' clout. But a pretty good case can be made that Bear Bryant scheduled integrated USC for the epic Bama beatdown in 1970 as a statement against segregation - actually to break the color barrier at Alabama. And it worked.

http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2013/11/historic_1970_alabama-usc_foot.html

People love to hate Saban and Alabama. I get that. It's natural to want to tear down someone or something so successful. Bama fatigue and all. If I weren't a grad and lifelong fan, I would probably be sick of them too.

But educate yourself on what your bashing before you bash. Otherwise, you just look kind of petty, or worse.... like an Auburn fan.

Roll Damn Tide!






DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. I see you never addressed his hypocrisy regarding LeBron James
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 05:11 PM
Jan 2017

I see you never addressed his hypocrisy regarding LeBron James:


At a news conference at the Von Braun Center, Saban talked about many topics, including the upcoming season, but he did also discuss a share of off-field issues like leadership. Suddenly, the wave of LeBron talk hit Saban via a reporter who asked him about LeBron's decision to sign with the Miami Heat.

"The way (James) managed what he did just speaks volumes about who he is and whether he is a team guy - not because he left Cleveland, but the way he did. That's not the kind of trust and respect you'd like to have in a team organization."

This is coming from the same man who infamously left the Miami Dolphins back in 2006 after making countless public statements at press conferences saying he wasn't going to be the "Alabama coach." Later he bolted for Alabama, lying to the Dolphins and upsetting then-majority owner Wayne Huizenga.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/422121-defector-criticizes-defector-saban-rips-lebrons-decision


Sa(t)an left Miami for the same reason Spurrier left Washington. He couldn't cut the mustard in the NFL, not every college coach can be Jimmy Johnson.


Also, you never addressed my point about Bear Bryant neglecting to use his immense popularity to criticize George Wallace.


Clemson Tigers, NCAA Champions, baby.
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