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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou CAN travel into the Czech Republic without getting your passport stamped.
All you have to do is enter it from another EU country.
Why does this matter?
Because Priebus and others are pretending that because DT's lawyer, Michael Cohen, has a passport with no stamps for the Czech Republic, that proves he didn't travel to Prague for a meeting described in the "dossier" about the Russians.
But people can and do travel within the European union without getting passports stamped.
ON EDIT: I just found a report from YAHOO NEWS explaining this. The reporter got Michael Cohen to show him pages in his passport via FaceTime video. Cohen seemed to think his lack of stamps proved he hadn't been in Prague. But the reporter was able to determine that he HAD been traveling in the Schengen Zone during that time -- so he could have visited Prague without getting stamped.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-attorney-michael-cohen-i-have-no-russian-kremlin-connections-071908867.html
The document published by BuzzFeed included a claim that Cohen met with Kremlin representatives in Prague last August. Cohen told Yahoo News he was in New York and California throughout that month. He used FaceTime video chat to show his passport. It appeared to show stamps dated from 2009 until late 2016 from visits to France, Hong Kong, Macau, Scotland, Anguilla, St. Maarten, St. Barts, Georgia, Kazakhstan and Turkey. The trips to Georgia and Kazakhstan all seemed to be dated from 2010 to 2012. Cohen promised to allow Yahoo News to examine the document at Trumps press conference on Wednesday.
While Cohens passport didnt seem to contain stamps from the Czech Republic, he wouldnt necessarily need to have one if he visited the country. The Czech Republic is part of the Schengen Area, a group of 26 European countries that have a border agreement. Visitors must present a passport when they first enter the area, but they do not necessarily need to show the document when they travel between countries within the zone. Based on the passport pages he showed to Yahoo News, Cohen made multiple visits to Schengen countries, from which he could have traveled on to the Czech Republic, including a trip to Paris last year.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)You just drive across the border. Or take the train. I've done it several times.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)who is taking advantage of people's lack of knowledge about this.
You would think the media would know.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)It was said that its very easy to do.
meadowlander
(4,399 posts)I crossed the border into the Czech Republic six times and don't have any stamps except the one I requested.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Just saying...
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)One time I flew in on Christmas morning early and there wasn't even anyone at the Foreign Arrival Desk. I didn't even get it stamped.
politicat
(9,808 posts)It's the first rule of Spycraft Kindergarten: who is our best friend? Plausible deniability!
Proving he was there may be difficult, if he was smart enough to follow a Le Carré novel. Used cash, didn't use cards, can obfuscate the dates of where and when he was. Cohen has incentive to lie and obfuscate, and he's not going to tell the press anything -- he's a lawyer, and knows his rights.
He's one paragraph in 35 pages. He's a fairly easy lift, all things considered, but there are multiple easy lifts in that document. All intel has potential shaky places because it relies on gossip and sources who may not have complete information. Don't let the "if one thing is wrong, it's all trash" noise become a distraction. There is already a lot in there that is confirmed, and most legal cases are at least as much circumstantial evidence as factual evidence.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)even when I linked to Wikipedia.
politicat
(9,808 posts)One person... :eyeroll:
We know paid trolls exist, and we know some people fall for it. Concern and doubt trolls are at least as effective as the other types. Don't doubt your own brain. That's the demoralization that they want.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/go/schengen-fact-sheet.html
2naSalit
(86,649 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)I was able to travel pretty freely in European countrires and never had my passport stamped, except upon landing on a direct flight from North America. Other than that "interrogation" (Why are you here? That seems like a good reason, enjoy your visit." All I ever did was hold up my passport and walk through.
That was 1984, though, and is just my experience. Things are probably way different now.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)That was before the fall of the Iron Curtain.
Dorian Gray
(13,496 posts)states that he took a trip to Paris last year.
Does it have the exact dates? And do those dates match up within the timeframe of the alleged meet up? BC this could be it.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)precise down to an exact date.
The fact that they are pretending that the passport's lack of stamps is meaningful tells me they have something to hide.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)And I traveled from country to country without even being stopped at the border.
Anyone who's been to Europe could have seen right through that RNC PR BS.
FDT.