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edhopper

(33,589 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 11:57 AM Jan 2017

We must embrace the anger this time

Last edited Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:31 PM - Edit history (1)

After 2008, Obama and the Dems looked away from the great anger out there, mainly directed toward Wall Street and the Banks. They allowed the Right to funnel it into things like the Tea Party and redirect it towards Obama. The result was the 2010 defeat.
Learn from history, there is a lot of anger out there at what Trump and the Repugs are doing. The majority did not vote for him or the Repukes, and they are angry about what is going on. Be smart this time and embrace it and direct it politically against these assholes, if you don't the Right will.

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We must embrace the anger this time (Original Post) edhopper Jan 2017 OP
Well Said, Ed. pdxflyboy Jan 2017 #1
Thanks edhopper Jan 2017 #2
The "Recovery" never actually reached the places where we used to make things either. mackdaddy Jan 2017 #3
Back in 2009 edhopper Jan 2017 #4
Embrace but CONTROL, and DIRECT the anger positively. Hortensis Jan 2017 #5
With all due respect edhopper Jan 2017 #6
Well, Trump supporters who like displays of anger instead Hortensis Jan 2017 #7
Obama wasn't cool about it edhopper Jan 2017 #8
Oh, goodness. FDR had a unified center working with him. Hortensis Jan 2017 #10
people were hurting after edhopper Jan 2017 #11
Been that way since 2000. Never went away. Rex Jan 2017 #9

edhopper

(33,589 posts)
2. Thanks
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:26 PM
Jan 2017

thought I'd get more comments, but at least people are reading it.

If we ignore this, we will pay a price, again.

mackdaddy

(1,527 posts)
3. The "Recovery" never actually reached the places where we used to make things either.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:35 PM
Jan 2017

The "rust belt" or interior of the country never got much of the recovery felt in the coastal areas with the banking, and research centers of the "service" economy. Tens of thousands of FACTORIES were moved over seas in the last couple of decades. The people who used to be able to make a good living in these factories, were not at best left with minimum wage jobs and told to "re-train" for some other non-existent jobs.
Fox News, and Rush, and all of the other RW media were excellent at blaming "nObama" and deflecting from the Oligarchs and their Republican political servants. Obama was a black, muslin without a birth certificate you know. And "Killary" was a failed SOS, and wanted to kill babies, Was sick and about to drop dead in her tracks, or killed all of bill's girlfriends, and created ISIS. I really heard this crap from people here in the rural SE Ohio.

But there really are few jobs here that pay a living wage, and we have a terrible opiate problem with so many idle hands here. And yet there are some in the cities doing extremely well and telling these people how much better things are. The people in power did not fix their problems.

Trump then comes along telling these people exactly what they want to hear in simplistic terms and his message is literally covered 24/7 for over a year. This is what so many in the Democratic party seemed to miss. Long term pain causes anger, and they voted for the next "hope and Change", the orange one.

As stupid and Narcissistic as Trump and his gang are, they saw this and were able to manipulate these desperate angry people to take the office.

edhopper

(33,589 posts)
4. Back in 2009
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:50 PM
Jan 2017

Obama culd have gone after the Bankers. He had the chance to be FDR and bring us a new New Deal.
Instead it was bygones be bygones and reach across the isle while they spit on him and grabbed the anger.
Not loudly blaming the Repuke was a big error.
We can't make that mistake again.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Embrace but CONTROL, and DIRECT the anger positively.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:53 PM
Jan 2017

Obama and Michelle are very angry, models to copy once they are free of his current duties.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Well, Trump supporters who like displays of anger instead
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jan 2017

of cool discipline will at least be fortunate in that.

edhopper

(33,589 posts)
8. Obama wasn't cool about it
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:05 PM
Jan 2017

he ignored it and allowed the Right to co-opt it.

This is how you deal with it.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Oh, goodness. FDR had a unified center working with him.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:37 PM
Jan 2017

A great depression that hurt the affluent middle class, not just the lower ones, did wonderful things to empower liberal and moderate conservatives to make important progressive changes.

Note the absence of most of those farther left--both angry populists and angry anti-capitalists. FDR was very much part of the elite establishment and not at all their kind of revolutionary. He bitterly disappointed the radical left with his doomed-to-fail fixes to what they saw as a system corrupt to its core.

So it would be a mistake imagine THEY were cheering this stuff; the counterparts of those on the left who despise Obama and Democrats in this era for being weak "knew" FDR for a phony hypocrite, a member of organized money who lied to the people every week.

Being able to read the records of those who were there and of intelligent analysts who had the advantage of also being able to evaluate from the future is a wonderful thing.

edhopper

(33,589 posts)
11. people were hurting after
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 03:01 PM
Jan 2017

the 2008 collapse. And embracing the anger, rather than ignoring it and letting the Tea Party become the symbol of it lost us the Congress in 2010.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
9. Been that way since 2000. Never went away.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 02:06 PM
Jan 2017

Good luck, some peoples paychecks demand we keep repeating the same mistakes.

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