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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:51 PM Jan 2017

The Dow is down nearly 200 points.

Maybe the reality of Drumpfian Economics is sinking in.

An economic downturn might wake up some of the Deplorables. On the other hand Drumpf might start a war like his buddy Putin did to distract them.

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The Dow is down nearly 200 points. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 OP
I really think we will be fighting WW3 in 3-6 months nt maryellen99 Jan 2017 #1
ironically, i see him as too much of a disaster for that to happen unblock Jan 2017 #6
I wouldn't give it that long.I'm going with three days. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2017 #33
Wwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee onecaliberal Jan 2017 #2
Lol. Prez-elect Trump's pressor did NOT reassure investors. Hortensis Jan 2017 #3
Traders disappointed in trump's presser performance calguy Jan 2017 #4
Mark Cuban said he would go to a one hundred percent hedge if he won. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #7
I have been short the USD v GDP, SEK, and EUR for 2 weeks Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #16
I guess the 2naSalit Jan 2017 #5
200 isn't even a blip....It's far less than 1%. Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #8
The serious money won't crash the market. Not at this point anyway. JNelson6563 Jan 2017 #10
Also, Trump & the GOP will blame it on the Affordable Care Act Orrex Jan 2017 #12
Far less than 1%? You might want to check your maths. Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #18
Down 104 from 19850 Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #19
You replied to a 200 point figure Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #20
Whatever...a 1% drop is pretty meaningless too. nt Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #21
I never said it was a big deal... Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #22
LOL! you're the one who went off on the math... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #23
I did "go off" just pointed out what I saw as an error Grey Lemercier Jan 2017 #24
Personally I'm going to everything I can to help the economy decline Fresh_Start Jan 2017 #9
The market is up 10% since the election Hamlette Jan 2017 #11
I'm not celebrating calguy Jan 2017 #14
What will we see first: Dow 21,000 or Dow 19,000? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #17
I'm thinking first we'll see Dow 15k...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #25
Well, to get to 15,000 the Dow would have to pass through 19,000. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #26
If the Dow really drops by 20% that would be catastrophic for the economy, investors, and Drumpf. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #30
Yep, pretty much... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #31
A 20% Dow drop wouldn't be a catastrophe ... HeartachesNhangovers Jan 2017 #35
It would likely usher in a recession which would be catastrophic for Trump in 2020 DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #36
After yesterday's so called Trump Presser, Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #13
Ooooh your post cilla4progress Jan 2017 #37
Doing as you. Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #38
DU Stock Market Watch DoBotherMe Jan 2017 #15
Down 104 @ 1:00. elleng Jan 2017 #27
It'll bounce up just so Donald can be given credit for the momentary upturn. rogue emissary Jan 2017 #28
I think it is just normal ups and downs JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #29
The so called tRump rally is losing steam. Joe941 Jan 2017 #32
He will start a war. On purpose. Disaster capitalism. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #34
Maybe they watched Groper Don the Con's malaise Jan 2017 #39
Should be down more after he dissed Big Pharma. There is an app now that will alert you when lunasun Jan 2017 #40

unblock

(52,253 posts)
6. ironically, i see him as too much of a disaster for that to happen
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:58 PM
Jan 2017

i think it's more likely that his constant picking on individual companies will piss off enough super-rich people to get him kicked out before he has time to embroil us in a major war.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
33. I wouldn't give it that long.I'm going with three days.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:16 PM
Jan 2017

I had been thinking of starting a thread along those lines. I've been thinking three days. I was going to go with four days, but I had been thinking that Monday the 23rd was a holiday. The holiday is on 01-16, so there's nothing on the calendar for 01-23 to get in the way.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Lol. Prez-elect Trump's pressor did NOT reassure investors.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jan 2017

Apparently too much quarreling with the press and refuting scandal and no economic details to hang happy dreams of future earnings on. A couple polls are showing confidence in Trump is already deflating across the board, not just in board rooms.

calguy

(5,315 posts)
4. Traders disappointed in trump's presser performance
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jan 2017

I knew it was just a matter of time. I took all my 401K money out 2 days ago and am trading everything short right now.
Market held up over the New Year because traders wanted to wait and take profits this year in anticipation of trump's lower tax rates promise. Good chance now the market goes down a LOT before it goes back up.

Buy the election, Sell the inauguration.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. Mark Cuban said he would go to a one hundred percent hedge if he won.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:59 PM
Jan 2017

Drumpf's economy with his stupid one offs will not outperforms Obama's economy.

Where do you see unemployment, GDP growth, and inflation on 1/20/18?

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
5. I guess the
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jan 2017

Russians aren't going to be buying today, probably think they are punishing us for exposing the scam.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
8. 200 isn't even a blip....It's far less than 1%.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:02 PM
Jan 2017

Not that I don't expect a downturn, I do. One problem, of course, is that most of the red states won't feel the effect of a downturn for a couple of years. Much like how they mis-read the Bush Recession, they don't understand how the blue states get hurt first and worst, and they don't care.

Get back to me when it drops 2000 in one day.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
10. The serious money won't crash the market. Not at this point anyway.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:12 PM
Jan 2017

They certainly don't want to tip off the little people.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
12. Also, Trump & the GOP will blame it on the Affordable Care Act
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:18 PM
Jan 2017

Breitbart "news" will happily catapult the propaganda, and then the "real" media--having lost access to the Whitehouse press room--will obediently parrot the official story in hope of re-ingratiating themselves to Trump.

Thus it will become true.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
9. Personally I'm going to everything I can to help the economy decline
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:09 PM
Jan 2017

I think thats the only disaster which will dislodge Trump.
So I'm austerity until Trump is gone gone gone.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
11. The market is up 10% since the election
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:18 PM
Jan 2017

I think everyone expected it to fall.

Today is a blip. Don't be celebrating. And remember, many of your fellow dems have our retirement/life savings in the market. Won't hit republicans any harder.

calguy

(5,315 posts)
14. I'm not celebrating
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jan 2017

I'm a day trader and I see the market as being topped out. I'm just trading what I see.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
31. Yep, pretty much...
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:09 PM
Jan 2017

I'm thinking too many folks were disappointed that the Great Recession of '08 didn't go full on Depression and they are working to make sure we get a real crash. But this time there may not be a bailout.

35. A 20% Dow drop wouldn't be a catastrophe ...
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:40 PM
Jan 2017

A 20% drop is generally considered a "bear market". A "crash" is a 50% drop. 20% drops have happened 12 times since the end of WWII and a 20% drop NOW would only erase 2 years of gains and leave us WAY higher than the peaks before the Tech bubble and Real Estate bubble burst.

If you are only mentally prepared to deal with a 20% drop, you are setting yourself up for a panic because an occasional 20% drop isn't only possible, it's inevitable.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
36. It would likely usher in a recession which would be catastrophic for Trump in 2020
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:42 PM
Jan 2017

It would likely usher in a recession which would be catastrophic for Trump in 2020 and the GOP in the 2018 mid terms.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. After yesterday's so called Trump Presser,
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 01:20 PM
Jan 2017

hunch says,the Consumer is heading to the side lines. The Uruinator scared the crap out the country and today we are seeing the fallout.

All these talking heads on Wall Street are getting their words shoved up their collective butts. How is that Trump trade working for you.

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
37. Ooooh your post
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:43 PM
Jan 2017

makes me feel good!

I've switched a bit of my tiny portfolio to cash (money market). Ride this disaster out.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
34. He will start a war. On purpose. Disaster capitalism.
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 02:17 PM
Jan 2017

We, the opposition, need some strong leadership. Someone needs to organize the resistance!

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
40. Should be down more after he dissed Big Pharma. There is an app now that will alert you when
Thu Jan 12, 2017, 04:31 PM
Jan 2017

he speaks negatively about your added industries of investment so you can get out if it will go down . I thought all the pharma talk at the pisser yesterday would swing the market Health care with this repeal is under stress also
It's like that twi light zone episode with the kid . All hoping he doesn't attack them next . Wall Street will probably react more now after 1/20
Then officially he is in charge and unstable and the market could reflect it

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