Love how MSNBC changed their description of Trump dossier summary to "Unverified"

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Fine distinction, but sounds so much better than "Unsubstantiated."

Unverified - simply, accuracy not confirmed

Unsubstantiated - same as unverified, with a hint that information is questionable, spurious, groundless

All I know is that you don't go to Russia or to Trump to verify anything.

I also think an innocent man would have first and foremost been outraged about the accusation itself. "I NEVER would have done something like this. ever ! " would come before " I am so mad this has been leaked."

[BlueCaliDem]

1. Putin's puppet just yells, "FAKE NEWS!!" But everyone knows where there's smoke, there's

usually fire.

It's how they hanged the HRC campaign in the final weeks by reporting that Comey had come out and said that they're "reopening" the case when they'd never closed it and he said NO SUCH THING. Even though he tried to walk it back four or five days later, the damage had already been done, as we've seen with plenty of anti-Hillary "DUers" here as they all repeated that same LIE.

So what's good sauce for the gander, is good for the goose.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Yes - and it was actually 9 days before he took it back - a lifetime in politics - especially during

the period so close to the election when everyone is paying attention.

I live where I am surrounded by Republicans. And, to me, what got themcompletely convinced and off the fence about voting for Hillary was more about the potential ties to Anthony Weiner that Comey threw out there. That is what disgusted them. I know, Huma of course not responsible for his actions, absolutely. I know she is the most loyal friend and confident to Hillary. But, IMHO, it was a reality that her relationship with Huma (and thus her husband), gave fuel to the anti-Hillary fire at that point.

FAKE NEWS same as CROOKED HILLARY. Brainwash tactic, repeated over and over again, takes root.

[sarcasmo]

2. MSNBC is Fox 2. There is no news outlet with the stones to stand up to the Dictator.

[wordpix]

6. good try but MSNBC has good people - of course,

they have to put the other side on, too, same as CNN or any decent news outlet.

What they need are more anchors and reporters who will PRESS Peeotus, R's and DINOs and confront them with facts.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. Think MSNBC's problem is that they can't get the people on anymore to press them. CNN still can.

[wordpix]

11. Chris M, Lawrence, Chris H, Rachel, Joy R., Tamron H.

tehy all press. Some of the field reporters don't but Kasie Hunt, Steve Kornacki and Ari Melbar are great on finance/legal/statistical/campaign research. This is a really good group.

[MoonRiver]

3. surprise, surprise

NOT

[CincyDem]

4. Yep- this is exactly what they did when frothing about Comey's "new evidence" letter...

...right ?

[wordpix]

5. another defense he hasn't used is, "Ask anyone who knows me, this is out of my character"

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. Right. Or what about how it could hurt his wife? I tell you, if the whole thing is

made up, it was certainly creative thinking. It is a proven fact that:

1) Obama's were there in 2009 - stayed at the Ritz Carlton.
2) And, it is a proven fact that Trump was there in 2013, and stayed at the same hotel.
3) And, it was between those two years, April 2011, that Obama openly mocked Trump about birther jazz at the Correspondent's dinner. And, now that we know Trump better, it is impossible to think he wouldn't seek revenge over that.

Thus, if fake, someone had to put this together and think "Hmmm, what could we make up about this scenario?"

[octoberlib]

10. There's been a lot of hostility

from people like Chris Matthews to the dossier. A couple nights ago , Matthews had some guy on there that said the whole dossier had been debunked with no follow up questions from Matthews.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Chris is strange. I have noticed what you say. He completely allows someone to spew garbage. It

is almost like he is being told to do it. Or he is distracted and not listening. But, then, he will show what he really feels with others who are on our side. It's curious.

I do know one bandwagon he's on - the thought that anyone - even Trumpsky - can be hurt by unverified information.