If Gen. Mike Flynn or Paul Manafort was charged with treason . . . What then?

[skip fox]

What would happen if either one was charged with treason for colluding with the enemy, such as suggesting certain Russian hacking operations, negotiating a third party transfer of hacked information to Wikileaks. etc.

Would either "roll over" on Trump because the charge is so serious? Or would Trump pardon him before he was made to testify against him?

I've got questions, this morning, and my questions have got questions.

[kimbutgar]

1. Who's going to charge them Sessions Ag office or the rethug congress?

Neither the fix is I. And we are f'ed. Just seeing the rethug trying to shut down the ethics office but sneaking in we can't review what they do tells me we are in for a turbulent stomach retching ride in the next 8 years.

[shraby]

2. Seems they'd have to be convicted of colluding before they could be pardoned.

Also a person has to serve a certain amount of a sentence before they can be pardoned I think.

[HoneyBadger]

3. Like Nixon was convicted and did time?

nope

[guillaumeb]

4. Nixon actually resigned to avoid impeachment.

No conviction on his record. Unfortunate.

[HoneyBadger]

6. He was pardoned anyway

[guillaumeb]

9. Part of the deal that allowed Ford to preside as President.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

5. Pardoned by Emperor Trump.

Perhaps pre-emptively.

[HoneyBadger]

7. Pardon is interesting

Can you pardon everyone in federal prison currently? Sure. Can you pardon unnamed people for a named crime? Like anyone that committed murder on Christmas? Nope. Can you pardon a named person for all past crime? Yes. For all future crime? Probably not.

[skip fox]

8. I'M not really a novelist, though I wrote on classified as such,

but it's the fiction writer in me that likes to imagine a multitude of scenarios, and with Trump andhis victory it seems almost impossible not to iagine the wildest of rides for the next four years or more.

gasp

[onenote]

10. It would mean the constitutional standard for treason has been revised?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2674244

[Calista241]

11. They can't be charged or convicted of treason

A state of war has to exist, a legal state of war. The Constitution is crystal clear on this.

As congress has yet to declare war on anyone since WW2, they can't be charged with treason.

[skip fox]

12. Is this the case?

What about the Rosenbergs?

There was only a cold war.

[Calista241]

13. THe Rosenberg were not charged with treason.

They were tried, convicted, and executed for conspiracy to commit espionage.

[skip fox]

15. Why is it even a question, then, for Snowdon?

http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2013/06/treason-charges-for-snowdon-would-be-rare-challenging/

[Calista241]

16. Snowden has been charged with 2 counts of espionage, and 1 count of theft of gov't property.

On June 14, 2013, United States federal prosecutors filed a criminal complaint against Snowden, charging him with theft of government property, and two counts of violating the Espionage Act through unauthorized communication of national defense information and "willful communication of classified communications intelligence information to an unauthorized person.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

A reporter or a politician saying "charge XYZ with treason" does not a successful prosecution make.

[coco22]

14. What about Boris Eps..

The surrogate I watched him throughout the campaign he cam from Russia as a teen.