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lunatica

(53,410 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:36 PM Jan 2017

Trump is doing what all Dictators do to the leadership in the country

He's firing them. Getting rid of them. Leaving Embassies and agencies without their bosses to do anything. Who's going to have the authority to do anything now?

It's the non violent way of sending them to Siberia or out and out killing them. Stalin did it to all the leaders, all the intellectuals and to all the generals in the military. He also forced people who worked for him to turn in their spouses and families who he then sent to
Siberia.

And remember Sadam Hussein's famous video of him sitting at a desk on a stage with all the Iraqi leadership as his audience and him calling out names and his military police dragging them outside to shoot them? He did that.

Think of any dictator and you'll see that Trump is doing the Democratic version of his own purge.

Trump is just firing them because that's all he can do in this Democracy. If he could he'd probably shoot a few.

Because he can't possibly have enough friends to fill all the posts. He's just going to leave everything as leaderless as he can.

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global1

(25,253 posts)
1. Who's Advising Trump To Do These Things?.....
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:40 PM
Jan 2017

I'm sure on his own he didn't even know that he had ambassadors around the globe that he was responsible for. Somebody had to tell him that and give him advice on what to do with them. Is it Rence? Is it Pence? Is it Bannon? Is it his son-in-law? Is it his family?

Or has Trump been so influenced by that Hitler book he keeps at his bedside that he is doing this all on his own?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
2. He admires "strong leaders"
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jan 2017

It's no secret. I believe he wants to be a strong man leader like Saddam Hussein or Stalin, or any of the dozens in the last century.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
3. Trump, IMO, has read all of the play books and is installing a dictatorship. Far too many Americans
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jan 2017

do not think, expect or are not educated enough to think this could happen in America, but it can, and he's got enough willful idiots backing him.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. He's not stupid
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:47 PM
Jan 2017

Even as we like to say he is. He isn't. He's a psychopathic malignant narcissist just like all the dictators in history.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
6. He will be installing his own stooges
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jan 2017

They will be sycophants and promote the agendas of corporate oligarchs.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
7. When will he do that?
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:53 PM
Jan 2017

On his first day? Because that's the day everyone is being fired.

Is he going to fill all the Ambassador leadership in the world with his stooges? How many stooges does he have? Will it be his kids? Guiliani? Christie?

It doesn't matter who he appoints because they'll be his people. That's exactly what I was saying when I posted this thread.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
10. the speed rate of his new replacement appointments probably depends
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jan 2017

on how quickly potential stooges get their campaign contributions into his various super-pak coffers. Call it the "buy an embassy" program.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. Well since he's already announced the firings
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:01 PM
Jan 2017

Maybe his coffers are full.

I guess that's not as paranoid thinking as other stuff.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
14. I doubt seriously that he will ever perceive his coffers as "full enough"
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:07 PM
Jan 2017

He and his criminal cronies have an avaricious appetite for acquiring more and more wealth.

frogmarch

(12,154 posts)
8. Similarities to Hitler too
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:54 PM
Jan 2017
http://www.biography.com/people/adolf-hitler-9340144#synopsis

Excerpt:

With millions unemployed, the Great Depression in Germany provided a political opportunity for Hitler. Germans were ambivalent to the parliamentary republic and increasingly open to extremist options. In 1932, Hitler ran against 84-year-old Paul von Hindenburg for the presidency. Hitler came in second in both rounds of the election, garnering more than 36 percent of the vote in the final count. The results established Hitler as a strong force in German politics. Hindenburg reluctantly agreed to appoint Hitler as chancellor in order to promote political balance.

Hitler used his position as chancellor to form a de facto legal dictatorship. The Reichstag Fire Decree, announced after a suspicious fire at parliament, suspended basic rights and allowed detention without trial. Hitler also engineered the passage of the Enabling Act, which gave his cabinet full legislative powers for a period of four years and allowed for deviations from the constitution.

Having achieved full control over the legislative and executive branches of government, Hitler and his political allies embarked on a systematic suppression of the remaining political opposition. By the end of June, the other parties had been intimidated into disbanding. On July 14, 1933, Hitler's Nazi Party was declared the only legal political party in Germany. …

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. If we keep ignoring these similarities
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 05:57 PM
Jan 2017

We do so at our peril.

Already he has crossed the line into illegality, but because he's so brazen about it we just sit and blink in wide eyed astonishment. Meanwhile he charges forward.

Warpy

(111,275 posts)
11. He's also acting like a corporate CEO after a hostile takeover
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:00 PM
Jan 2017

OUT with anyone with loyalty to the old bosses, IN with all your own flunkies.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
13. the purge is on
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:03 PM
Jan 2017

And it's certainly not something that isn't done here. Your example is the perfect one to make people understand what's going on.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
15. No matter how many people he dismisses,
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jan 2017

there will still be left plenty of patriotic civil servants in lower-level jobs to leak info to real journalists about the scandals that will come Traitor Trump's appointees.

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
16. I believe there will be
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:24 PM
Jan 2017

some sort of rebellion against him. Everyone hates the jerk. There are a lot of Intelligence agencies who aren't stupid and they will do something, I also wouldn't mess with the CIA.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
17. All of the agenccies: EPA, FDA, SEC, FBI, LRB, Ed, etc
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 06:34 PM
Jan 2017

will have many many lower-lever workers, who will be left pissed and resentful at the stupidity and damage at the top. The office scuttlebut will not remain unknown.

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