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Today:
Susie thinks we have no memories:
June 3, 2016:
Oct. 21, 2016:
She and her fellow SteinTrumpers spent the campaign encouraging the Bernie or Busters, telling them that Hillary, not Trump, was the one who needed defeated.
Those BoBs in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania who stayed home, allowing Der Trumpenfuhrer to win those states by less than one percent, were listening to this nonsense.
Voting third party is one thing, but actively minimizing the danger of a facist takeover of the US is morally unforgiveable.
And now, she wants to waltz in and attach herself to the women's march as if she's some champion of their issues and a member of progressive royalty.
Takes a hell of a lot of nerve.
You said you were fine with President Pussygrabber taking power. You wanted this. Big tent be damned, now get the hell out of the way while the rest of us fix it.
Generator
(7,770 posts)Where's her apology? Until then-fuck her.
George II
(67,782 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,301 posts)Why should I say "fuck you"? Fucking is good. If I want to wish ill on someone, I think we should say "Un-fuck you!"
Un-fuck you, Susan Sarandon.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Gothmog
(145,619 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)Screw her.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)While I'm glad some of them are realizing their mistake, it would have been nice if they had realized it before the election.
SunSeeker
(51,726 posts)Response to DanTex (Reply #3)
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DanTex
(20,709 posts)And they succeeded. So it reeks of hypocrisy for any of the to now go out and protest the very thing that they helped bring about.
Whatever mistakes the Clinton campaign made, they were just that: mistakes. Clinton and her team did everything they could to prevent Trump from becoming president. The Greens/BoBs did everything they could to ensure Trump became president.
Big difference.
Bengus81
(6,933 posts)skypilot
(8,854 posts)It is heartening and disheartening at the same time to see all these Trump voters finally realizing things about him that were obvious to so many others before the election.
lapucelle
(18,351 posts)and has no problem with the marginalized suffering in order to advance her agenda.
thucythucy
(8,087 posts)No skin off her nose if women's rights in the US and around the world are gutted.
delisen
(6,044 posts)I remember her atrocious in your face attack on Delores Huerta. Star-splaining to a woman of courage what she should think and do.
Susan is an entitled multimillionaire who wants to run the lives of other people. Might as well register as a Republican.
TeamPooka
(24,259 posts)Response to TeamPooka (Reply #8)
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ebbie15644
(1,216 posts)You will not co-opt this march for your own agenda. Go away your not wanted or needed
dionysus
(26,467 posts)ebbie15644
(1,216 posts)charlyvi
(6,537 posts)She has a habit of helping assholes become president, then raging about what assholes they are. All without the slightest hint of hypocrisy. THAT'S her agenda.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)It's easy for people like her to say the bullshit she says because she doesn't stand to lose anything.
JI7
(89,276 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Didn't she vote for Jill Stein?!?
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the United States, anything they feel they are somehow part of.
Sarandon's just wired that way. She would ignore The Rough Beast just installed at the head of our nation to be against any mainstream Democratic candidate if neither Hill nor Bernie existed, regardless of positions. If she were in a Scandinavian country, she'd be against the mainstream candidates there, regardless of positions. This is just how those given to extremist reactions are.
WE need to recognize it so we evaluate these attacks from the far left for what they are. Note that those on the far left cannot form a party Sarandon could be proud of because of intrinsic incompetence.
radical noodle
(8,013 posts)SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And swimming in her winter mansion's pool full of 100 dollar bills, no doubt.
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JI7
(89,276 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)The is the second damn time that Susan Sarandon decided to pick/root for the Green party over the Democratic Party . First it was Nader, then it was Stein. Maybe we shouldn't invite someone who has shown a willingness to rip up the coaliation twice now to disastrous effect back in the fold.
Also, "angry exclusion"? The losing side of the primary was given unheard of concessions when it came to shaping the party. If that's considered an angry exclusion by some, I'd hate to see what a real one is.
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SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)The Sanders coalition only had one thing in common with the Obama coalition. Millenials. It did not have the PoC or actual registered Democrats that pushed Obama over the finish line. Please go back to JPR.
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Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)NNadir
(33,561 posts)philly_bob
(2,419 posts)Denial that their behavior may have had a part in 2016 election defeat. CHECK.
Familiar territory...
NNadir
(33,561 posts)I have no apology for this low opinion, and I can't help it there were some people so filled with hate as to state that "Trump's not that bad."
Trump is a racist pig, and anyone with an ounce of sense could see that. Clearly there are people in this country who lack an ounce of sense, but I have some sense of satisfaction that there were 2.5 million more people who had sense than assholes who lack sense.
That an artifact of a 200 year old constitution placed in it to protect slavery and slaveholders has allowed similar minded racists to seize the government of the United States is not a function of the fact that I refused to kiss Susan Sarandon's ass or the asses of like minded people.
Susan Sarandon being an ass is not my fault either, but I'm not kissing her or any other ass because Trump's seized the government.
Weakling cry babies - including but not limited to Trump voters - whining that we deserve this because we didn't kiss their ignorant asses get zero respect from me.
A great tragedy is under way, and if there are people who think it's taking place because we didn't kiss their asses, well unlike the rest of us, they deserve what they're going to get.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend.
Cary
(11,746 posts)No one is attacking her personally to deflect from her "argument." She stabbed us in the back.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)radical noodle
(8,013 posts)She excluded herself... in favor of Trump winning. I do not trust her nor will I ever.
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)On the contrary, most of us were BEGGING them to reconsider voting for Stein, but that weren't having it.
Susan Sarandon types deserves every ounce of criticism they get. They helped create the fiasco we all witnessed yesterday.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Cha
(297,731 posts)advocated voting for stein and saying trump would be better.
As she sits on her $50 million while the poor in the country will go hungry.. and all kinds of horrible things will happen.. and the Planet will suffer from a climate change denier in the WH.
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)Sarandon has poor judgement. She gave up both Bush and Trump
LisaM
(27,840 posts)Without that little maneuver, I think we'd see a different makeup in Congress right now, not to mention the president.
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)It is a pain
LisaM
(27,840 posts)But what he did with the Supreme Court led, I think, to Trump. Not to mention the dark money that came in from Citizens United.
Cha
(297,731 posts)People with $$$$$ aren't selfish and ignorantly, willfully obtuse like she is.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)Yes, pseudo revolutionaries and rebels forever a thorn in the side of reformers who toil in the fields.
#NoTimeForThem
yardwork
(61,712 posts)I'm sick to death of privileged narcissistic twits who are nothing but useful tools for the right wing.
thucythucy
(8,087 posts)The German Communists in 1932 spent their time and energy denouncing Social Democrats as "Social Fascists" all the while voting with the Nazis in the Reichstag to stop any progressive reforms, and urging workers to reject the SPD as their enemy.
Those who ignore history etc. etc.
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)It seem personnal to her the way she trashes her.To compare Mrs.Clinton to Trump is pure nuts.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)First Nader. Now Stein. Sarandon has shown a willingness to try and rip about the coalition in the face of Bush and Trump. Let's not give her another chance in 2020/2024. Dead to me. Dead to the Party.
LyndaG
(683 posts)Pretty sure most of Trump's policies won't hurt her a bit.
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)She isn't capable of bearing children anymore, and she isn't a minority. A Trump presidency will have no effect on her.
God how I loathe her.
NNadir
(33,561 posts)aikoaiko
(34,184 posts)oasis
(49,410 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)I challenge you to some kickboxin!
<--kickboxin'
JHan
(10,173 posts)if that makes me a snob .. I'll take it.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)And Delores didn't insult Bernie or deride him, even with her misgivings about his vote against immigration reform. She was on the same page as him and respected him, however the Sarandons of this world would have none of that.
Sienna86
(2,150 posts)Thanks Susan.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)when she was minimizing the dangers of Trump.
This all just a game to her.
She loves the idea of playacting as a noble activist, and, as a one percenter, doesn't have to worry about the consequences when her idiotic purity tests elect a fascist.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)that runs her mouth off and ultimately provides indirect support for drumpf.
still_one
(92,422 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,241 posts)yardwork
(61,712 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,343 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)This is ridiculous. XD
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elmac
(4,642 posts)everyone, including me, didn't think sniffles had a chance. Chalked her talk up to a status quo protest. She later backtracked her comments. We didn't know at the time that the FBI, puttin and sniffles were in bed doing the nasty.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)As late as October.
She owns this.
Cha
(297,731 posts)And, Thank you for this thread, AH!
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Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)She openly preferred and advocated for Donald "Grab Them by the Pussy" Trump being elected over the Democratic nominee.
If criticizing her is over the line, you might as well remove every thread going after republicans.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Voters bug the shit out of me.
So did she advocate voting for trump, or jill stein?
She doesn't sound like a trump supporter to me, just a spoiled rich woman who bought into the naderite way, which is bad enough.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)BainsBane
(53,072 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,368 posts)so there is no problem whatsoever about reminding everyone of that.
See, when you support a side in the primaries, you're still supporting a Democrat, and so you deserve protection on a Democratic side. When you say the Republican is better than the Democratic candidate, you've supported the misogynistic arsehole whom the protest is aimed at, and you deserve the brickbats.
You're not 'poking DU in the conscience'. You're waving your finger around in the air without connecting with anything solid at all.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)Cha
(297,731 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)What a horrible person.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)She better know we remember
LakeArenal
(28,847 posts)You make Sarandon relevant by this stuff. Let her shoot off. She has the right. Just quit commenting on it.
Sarandon didn't help her lose. HILLARY CLINTON WON THE POPULAR VOTE.
Susan Sarandon is equal to the white men who are upset of losing their relevance. Women can see through her or not. She is just not important enough for folks to keep carrying this angst.
Now she will feel the need to comment on her detractors and this stupid side issue keeps on going. Focus on the future.
betsuni
(25,653 posts)Thx, Saranwrap, for helping protect us from Democrats.
Cha
(297,731 posts)Cha
(297,731 posts)be pointed out? Why do we have to roll over and shut up?
dionysus
(26,467 posts)actress says? She's not at the height of her celebrity anymore, besides, who bases their vote on what a celebrity thinks?
I think you grant her way too much influence here, no matter how annoying green voters are...
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)Turncoat status and she is one of the reasons we have a crazy man in the WH with the nuclear codes.
Chevy
(1,063 posts)Jack Pine Jack offs have lost a few idiots lately and are showing up at the funniest of places
7962
(11,841 posts)larry budwell
(50 posts)She is not worth my time. Just ask Tim.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)would rather surrender control of the Supreme Court to the GOP for at least a generation, have the nuclear codes given to an emotionally-unstable president, have a president elected who will likely enact cuts to social benefits for the working class, doesn't respect women/non-Whites/etc., believes climate change is fake, whose agenda and rhetoric are the the antithesis to what the Left stands for than to have a president who is the Democratic Party's most progressive nominee in history. Hmm....
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dionysus
(26,467 posts)have. To. Be. Fucking. Kidding. Me, if you think she's the most progressive candidate in history.
She'd have done fine in office, but your assertion in ridiculous.
Yoy forgot about FDR, and many, many others.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)than the policies he ended up implementing. He was forced to act by a tide of people's movements. Even so, he continued to preside over Jim Crow and implemented the New Deal in overtly discriminatory ways. He also faced a situation of 25% unemployment rather than 4.7%. Ignoring historical context is not a valid approach to understanding past presidencies.
Now I'm well aware that progressivism has come o be defined in ways that pertain only to the white male population, but th rest of us do think about our own lives and rights. To repeatedly ignore the majority in evoking mythological historical heroes is unacceptable. I understand the jackholes do it because they are overt in their determination to return the Democratic Party back to its Jim Crow days, but I don't believe you share that goal. I therefore expect more if you.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)yardwork
(61,712 posts)I think that Hillary would have been a very progressive president. We'll never know.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Sarandon is just as much a narcissist as Trump.
Cha
(297,731 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,812 posts)Now piss off.
IronLionZion
(45,541 posts)about how the 2 parties are bad for America and we need more parties.
it was disgusting
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)That makes them fascists. Fascism is as fascism does.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)Do you have a link to where she said she was fine with trump? Otherwise i'm guessing you're just mad she was against hillary.
If she really said she was fine with trump, then shes a fool.
pnwmom
(108,996 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:46 AM - Edit history (3)
For example, she said that Hillary didn't support the $15 minimum wage and that she still supported the TPP.
And she said this (after Comey's letter bomb, when Hillary's poll numbers had started to plunge):
Now that Trump is self-destructing, I feel even those in swing states have the opportunity to vote their conscience.
http://www.jill2016.com/sarandon
And here's what she said in June:
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/282143-susan-sarandon-clinton-more-dangerous-than-trump
Actress Susan Sarandon says Hillary Clintons foreign policy makes her a greater national security risk than Donald Trump, adding that it's "inevitable" the White House hopeful will be indicted.
I believe in a way shes more dangerous, except theyre both talking to Henry Kissinger apparently lately, Sarandon told The Young Turks on Thursday.
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/03/susan_sarandon_hillary_clinton_more_dangerous_than_donald_trump/
But this is what were fed. Hes so dangerous. Hes so dangerous,' Sarandon said, shrugging off Trumps most controversial rhetoric as too implausible to be considered a serious threat.
Seriously I am not worried about a wall being built, he is not going to get rid of every Muslim in this country but seriously, I dont know what his policy is. I do know what her policies are, I do know who she is taking money from, and I do know that she is no transparent, and I do know that nobody calls her on it
Cha
(297,731 posts)Poor People, Gays, Minorities, Sick People, the Climate Crisis, SCOTUS.. all get kicked around by the gd gop and blotus.
"For example, she said that Hillary didn't support the $15 minimum wage and that she still supported the TPP.
And she said this (after Comey's letter bomb, when Hillary's poll numbers had started to plunge):"
Now that Trump is self-destructing, I feel even those in swing states have the opportunity to vote their conscience.
http://www.jill2016.com/sarandon
Mahalo for the proof, pnwmom
betsuni
(25,653 posts)therefore you're wrong and just mad because you have a Hillary Clinton poster you kiss every night and probably jealous of Sarandon too" or something like that.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)Her reputation is gone and probably so is her career.
I just didn't understand why she hated Hillary so much. She just kept saying "Wallstreet, Wallstreet. "
So.? Hillary was representing MY at the time. Wallstreet was part of that. It was her job.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I hope she gets blow-back on twitter.
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)putting this behind us now. It doesn't help if we fight amongst ourselves. Make no mistake Susan Sarandon is a Progressive who's dues are paid up in full. She is entitled to be wrong pre-election because we must stand together now.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)This is the result she advocated for., and Trump is the man she wanted as president. I don't give a shit what she calls herself. She chose fascism and racism over democracy. That is who she is. Trump is president because of people like her, and she owns every last death that results. She was explicit in saying she wanted Trump to be president so as more people would suffer and thereby, she claimed, lead to a revolution. She said that while sitting in one of her 6 multimillion dollar homes, generating tens of millions from exploiting labor global South. She is an ally to Trump and the GOP, and she actively and deliberately works to worsen the suffering of the poor.
Fascism is as fascism does.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)She said something that many hard left people thought was true including my wife. We disagree with them yes. We voice our disagreement with them, yes. But they remain our allies.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)Did not Believe Stein would be elected. Your claim is obviously absurd. The purpose of backing Stein was to get Trump elected, and she said several times she preferred Trump. If you consider your allies Sarandon, Conway, Spicer, and the rest of the right-wing propaganda machine,, that is your business, but you don't speak for me or the other millions of people Sarandon wants to suffer more.
She chose fascism. That she did so in order to make America worse rather than out of a difference of opinion as to what makes the country and economy better makes her among the very worst.
She also made misogyny a key focus of her opposition to Clinton, not content to insult only the Democratic nominee but also the tens of millions of women who supported Clinton. She may well be an ally of those who share her contempt for women, but she is not mine.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)battle again shall we.
This is a ridiculous waste of time. You want to hate then turn your hate towards Trump as his sophacants.
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)and the several elections before that as well as the ones to come. She always takes aim at the Democratic Party. The point you don't understand is that alliances form through actions, not empty platitudes.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)preconceptions....
yardwork
(61,712 posts)Susan Sarandon advocated for Trump over Clinton. Sarandon urged us progressives to fight among themselves. Sarandon helped Trump win by weakening our side.
It's time for Democrats to stand united and tell the divisive ones that we are no longer listening to their bad ideas.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Unfortunately our radical leftists are scorched earth zealots.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)can't we start to put the wounds of that horrible election behind us now and fight together?
yardwork
(61,712 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)We had better stop attacking other progressives whatever there history and concentrate on the task at hand. Just say'n
BainsBane
(53,072 posts)Is to ensure Democrats lose. That has always been her goal. She hasn't wavered. That she has convinced your her preference for a white nationalist, authoritarian govt makes her "progressive" is your problem.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)just say'n
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)A useful tool for Comrade Trump and his criminal party.
How many times does filthy rich Suzy get a pass for stabbing the poor and working class in the back?
Kingmec
(2 posts)She's a crazy one
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)If she had attended, she should have bee removed with force. She is not on the right side. She is not part of this movement.
The faux Communist can now enjoy her Trump tax cuts and decry affluence from her Beverly Hills Mansion.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)I will NEVER watch any movie or show that POS is in ever again.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)YOU and the rest of your ilk are responsible for this monster that is infringing on my rights!! That is why I stood in the rain yesterday! That is why, as tired as I am, I am going to have to roll up my sleeves now and work with Naral and PP to make sure that our reproductive rights aren't going to be demolished...To ensure that my daughter and her daughter and future generations have rights to their reproductive health. I fucking HATE people like Susan Satandon. So let me just end my rant on this quote from Madonna from yesterday: FUCK YOU!!!!
yardwork
(61,712 posts)JCanete
(5,272 posts)I remember where she said that Clinton on foreign policy, had demonstrable baggage and that Trump was an unknown on that front.
as to the rest, she didn't have any illusions that Trump was going to be a bad President, or whether or not, should he get elected, we were going to need to fight him...her suggestion that there might be a more mobilized and awake citizenry if we get something as horrific as Trump has been spot-on...
whether that is what our nation needs most is what's in question, but at least stick to the facts what what she said and meant.
JHan
(10,173 posts)"her suggestion that there might be a more mobilized and awake citizenry if we get something as horrific as Trump has been spot-on... "
A more mobilized and awake citizenry is a citizenry with power. The change Susan claims to care about can only happen with elected officials voting* to implement what citizens want. A look at California shows what happens when Democrats control government yet Susan attacked the Democrats didn't she? She has no concept of game theory because she doesn't understand civics yet she became a thing last year because she's Susan Sarandon.
She's fallen for anti-establishment arguments which are designed to make us lose faith in Government and destroy it - that is not the Democratic way, we believe in better government by improving/refining and reforming what ails it.... Susan made the argument about personalities, instead of policies. Her criticisms of Hillary were unfounded, antagonistic and clueless.
Mobilization means nothing if we don't have majorities in congress, mobilization amounts to little if we don't have a democratic president to sign legislation that is at the heart of the democratic agenda.
Susan fails to understand all this, which is why she should not be taken seriously............ about anything having to do with politics.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Won't ever forget how that bitch harassed Dolores Huerta in Nevada either.
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)Does anyone remember this line of BS from Sarandon http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/29/politics/susan-sarandon-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/
Sarandon, a Bernie Sanders' surrogate, says Donald Trump would be more likely to usher in "the revolution" than Hillary Clinton.
"I think Bernie would probably encourage people (to support Clinton) because he doesn't have any ego in this thing. But I think a lot of people are, 'Sorry, I just can't bring myself to do that,' " Sarandon said of voting for Clinton in the general election. "I don't know. I'm going to see what happens."
An incredulous Hayes asked Sarandon if that meant she would vote for Trump.
"Some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately, if he gets in. Then things will really, you know, explode," Sarandon said, referring to the political "revolution" Sanders preaches about on the trail.
Hayes clarified that Sarandon was referring to the Marxist concept of revolution, in that Trump would create such a split in America that the upheaval would result in dramatic change.
Sarandon prefered Trump over Clinton which is both sick and sad