Trump fans are furious after Jake Tapper posted a Bible verse about lying being a sin

[deminks]

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/trump-fans-are-furious-after-jake-tapper-posted-a-bible-verse-about-lying-being-a-sin/

Thursday morning, CNN’s Jake Tapper took it into his head to tweet a Bible verse about the sin of falsehood.

Tapper quoted the Book of Proverbs, Chapter 12 verse 22: “Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.”

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or the ever popular commandment: Thou shalt not bear false witness.

Heads are 'splodin.

[Lucinda]

1. Good for Tapper!

[TheMastersNemesis]

2. What Can You Expect From The Deplorable Racist Class.

[spanone]

3. so the good, devout christians don't read the bible?

[gratuitous]

6. Pretty canny of Tapper

I didn't think he had it in him. But the verse from Proverbs hits Trump's ersatz Christian supporters on several levels (even though from what I can tell, Tapper didn't even refer to Lord Littlehands). First, of course, is having the Bible quoted back to them, because they think they own and control the Bible in its entirety, and they are the sole interpreters. Second, the verse is pretty straightforward. There's not a lot of wiggle room or context that can be brought to bear to avoid its plain meaning. Third, the use of the word translated "abomination," which these people would like to use exclusively for knuckling the homosexuals.

Well played, Jake.

[MyOwnPeace]

17. Surely there's an............

"alternative truth" verse somewhere that has been missed by the non-believers!

[teamster633]

7. They don't read it, they wield it as a weapon...

...at least the parts they like.

[vlyons]

36. They worship Jehovah -

the Jealous God and the God of Vengence. But Jesus, the Prince of Peace, who came to bring peace on earth and good will towards men (and women) -- errr not so much.

[RainCaster]

92. No they dont- they worship DFT

[MontanaMama]

61. They read an alternative bible

written by alternative prophets.

[Angry Dragon]

4. They have not gotten that far into the Book

[Charles Bukowski]

28. They can't get past the imaginary verses where the persecution

of homosexuals is condoned.

[Angry Dragon]

32. they love that part

[JDC]

91. Or the part where god demands abortion

In the case if adultery.

[MANative]

5. My fundie SIL told me with a straight face a few months ago...

that "Lying is not a sin if it's done to further the Christian agenda." Not an ounce of regret from her/them.

[gratuitous]

8. Try this response

"Really? Can you show me where in the Bible it says that? Because my understanding is that the Bible (and Jesus) are pretty consistently against lying; to let your yes be yes and your no be no."

The "let your yes be yes" is from Matthew 5:37, the Sermon on the Mount, and is the basis for some Christians to decline to be sworn when giving testimony.

[Mariana]

10. It won't work.

These people have convinced themselves that some of the instructions in the Bible (i.e. the ones they don't want to follow) don't really apply to them.

[NewJeffCT]

26. Cafeteria Christianity

pick and choose what to follow

[Mariana]

75. To be fair, every Christian does that. nt.

[WinkyDink]

80. To be fair, nobody is a saint.

[Qutzupalotl]

31. I've heard that argument used against the Old Testament,

(i.e., Mosaic law as distinct from Christian teachings) in reference to things like washing hands before eating or laboring on the Sabbath. But by definition a Christian is obligated to follow the teachings of Jesus and correct him/herself when they deviate. To say that Jesus' teachings do not apply to them means they cannot call themselves Christian. It's worth pointing that out, although you can expect protestation.

[MANative]

11. Thanks, can't hurt to try!

The Ten Commandments' "Thou shall not bear false witness" wasn't good enough for her. I fear she's beyond reasoning in her "righteousness."

[gratuitous]

12. Act interested

You don't have to be confrontational, just evince a genuine interest. Literalists are usually very wrapped up in having a strong, unequivocal biblical basis for anything they have to say. Sometimes you can chip away at the edifice by introducing a little doubt or equivocation to them. For example, if they use the story of Joshua's spies as justification for lying, you can say, "Well, since we're not casing the Promised Land for invasion and settlement, I don't think that provides blanket justification for lying."

[MANative]

14. I know that part of the problem between her and me...

and why we don't "connect" about this topic, is that she knows I'm an atheist and uses that as a club to invalidate everything I say about anything connected to religion. It's really hard for me to make the arguments credibly (in her eyes) when I look at the bible as a collection of allegories and parables, while she looks at it as literal, exact history.

[gratuitous]

15. Undoubtedly true

You're giving up the home field advantage by asking her to cite chapter and verse (in this case, literally) where she bases her belief. For me, it would be enough to introduce some doubt in her confident worldview, a little shade of gray in what is for her supposed to be very black and white.

[vlyons]

44. I could make an argument that the compassion, patience, and forgiveness teachings of Jesus

were inspired by Mahayana Buddhism, which started to flourish around the 1st Century BCE thru the 1st Century CE. Alexander the Great placed Greek philosophers in the court of King Menander, who established a Greco-Buddhist Culture. Some think that Greco-Buddhist thought influenced the Greek stoics. All of this history and Greek philosophy would have been known to the Roman elite in Palestine. And certainly Greco-Buddhist thought and practice would have travelled throughout the silk road routes in the Levant. Buddhism is not so much a religion, as it is a practice. Mahayana Buddhism is distinct from the earlier Hinayana Buddhism, which emphasized moralty and ethics. While Mahayana Buddhism emphasized compassion and wisdom. I won't go into the wisdom bit, except to say that it is seeing reality as it truly exists, and not as the delusions that we hold so dearly.

I'm not a Christian, but I know more about the real teachings of Jesus than many of these self-righteous fundamentalist yo-yos. It's really simple. Feed the poor, heal the sick, practice peace and love thy neighbor. Or to make it even more simple, practice the Goldden Rule. One doesn't need to believe in a God to practice the Golden Rule.

We as a country have lost our moral compass. It is my hope that this Trumpian episode will enable Americans to recognize that we are all of us connected, and that practicing the Golden Rule is ultimately in our own self interest.

[LittleGirl]

53. grab a copy

of the God Delusion. Helped me find ways of countering those cafeteria christians and use my own beliefs and words in defense.

[marybourg]

55. A study- which I'm not going to try to find now-

showed that atheists knew the bible much better than Christians.

[dalton99a]

20. That's why adultery is rampant among Bible thumpers.

[Angry Dragon]

34. ask her if Jesus lied to further the christian agenda

[vlyons]

48. ask her if Jesus lied when he taught us

to feed the poor and heal the sick?

[Angry Dragon]

50. that too

[WinkyDink]

78. Well, He wouldn't have, considering He was a Jew!

[Angry Dragon]

102. So in reality they are all Jews

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

51. They call it "Lying for the Lord"

I'm not positive, but I think that Romney followed that tenet himself.

[yellowcanine]

66. Otherwise known as "Lying for Jesus" The Young Earth Creationists are proud practitioners of this.

Anti-abortionists are pretty good at it also.

[classykaren]

74. Wow

[WinkyDink]

79. Best to remember the admonition: Don't argue religion or politics. At least, in a family.

[salin]

90. Where is the quote where Jesus says that? Is the question I would ask.

With the response, that until you can provide that quote - it doesn't seem to be a "Christ"ian tenet. Is the minister preaching that it is (lying is okay if it is promoting Christianity) more Christian than Christ?

[msongs]

9. using jesus against them is an excellent tactic. nt

[world wide wally]

30. You could do that all day if you wanted to

[hells]

13. The Bible is the most overrated book. Bigly. Sad!

[WinkyDink]

81. Your criteria being? Becasue I would've said the Qu'ran.

[hells]

88. I think you didn't get the sarcasm

[sarcasmo]

16. Republican Jesus cherry picks the bible.

[Initech]

18. Can we give Trump and his followers some small island to run and then we get America back?

Anyone for that fair exchange?

[bluescribbler]

24. Give them Alcatraz

Or Devil's Island.

[wryter2000]

59. Too close to Oakland!

I don't want them swimming across the bay to me.

[bdamomma]

27. or let him go to

Russia to be with his teenage prostitutes Vlad said they are best!!

[Initech]

29. I'd be all right with that!

[vlyons]

49. Send them to Galt's Gulch

[harun]

98. They would quickly deplete it of resources, make it unlivable and be back.

[Pisces]

19. Excellent

[The_Voice_of_Reason]

21. Thumbs Up for Tapper!

I applaud any American who calls Donald on any of his Coppola.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

22. YAY!

[florida08]

23. now the evangelicals

helped put him in office yet they are not going to hold him accountable..tough doo doo on a stick. Shows the hypocrisy they live by which is lying about their faith.

[keithbvadu2]

60. Like today's evangelical supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.

Like today's evangelical supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.

Evangelicals are easily able to spin their beliefs for political expediency.

The Donald who does not have to ask Jesus for forgiveness.

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

[bdamomma]

25. good

we know tRump doesn't read the bible.

another article from Democracy Now

https://www.democracynow.org/2016/8/10/donald_doesnt_know_anything_author_david

Here is the title:

"The Making of Donald Trump": David Cay Johnston on Trump's Ties to the Mob & Drug Traffickers

[Cryptoad]

33. Jesus said,,,,,

Anybody that does not embrace Truth has no God!

[Angry Dragon]

37. Just stop trying to confuse them

[DFW]

35. They'll only quote from the Book of Donald

Chapter 23, verse 10: "Yea, those who lie through their denticles and embrace the Turtle shall be granted Exemption from the Lord."

[ginnyinWI]

38. CNN has been set free!

Trump has dumped him and they no longer need to try to be fair and balanced. He will regret it.

[treestar]

39. The Bible says!

Funny how only parts of it are relevant to bottom draggers.

[Tikki]

40. I know nothing about how hypocracy fits into a Christian life, but it seems to...

be a leader among decisions made by repugs during their daily life.

Tikki

[kytngirl]

41. All Tapper did was post a Bible verse...

...and Trumpers go crazy. Not only did Tapper not mention anyone's name, he also didn't even refer to anybody, yet the Trumpers try to call him out on it. Know why? Because it goes without saying that today if anyone is talking about lying, they're talking about this new administration. Evangelicals have embraced Trump, the biggest fraud, liar, godless, cruel, vindictive, egotistical, sorry-ass man to ever grace the White House. How can you preach to people to try to live a Christ-like life and then support someone who is the exact opposite of Christ? I can't wrap my head around it.

[lillypaddle]

42. Sorry, I think you can make a point about lying

without quoting the bible. Not good for the press to use religious text to prove a point. UGH!

[hatrack]

101. If it pisses off Trumpanzees, works for me

.

[Stainless]

43. However,

Holy books and their words are very often used by their believers as a cudgel to beat others with.

[meow2u3]

45. Conservative Christians seem to think they have a monopoly on the Christian faith

They also seem to have an unwritten rule that only they can quote Scripture. Moderates and liberals are not allowed to use Jesus against them, especially to point out their false religion and hypocrisy.
To which I say, SCREW THAT!!! Jesus didn't die and leave evangelical hypocrites in charge!!

[workinclasszero]

46. The religious reich are apostates and heretics

You know, REPUBLICAN........................................................................................."christians".

Heres a Bible verse for them and their false christian hero BLOTUS Trump:

John 8:44 For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.

[Beacool]

47. Like all Christian fanatics, as opposed to the average Christian, they are hypocrites.

Trump is the least religious person to be president in a long time. His only god is himself. These people are dolts who believed in a congenital liar.

[RKP5637]

52. Excellent!!! n/t

[DesertRat]

54. k&r

[MFM008]

56. bait bait bait

[Peacetrain]

57. Resistance is Patriotic and Christian... a 6 point call to action

https://sojo.net/articles/resistance-patriotic-and-christian

[Initech]

62. Only if their side does it.

If our side dares try to advance any cause, they fly off the rails.

[forjusticethunders]

103. Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.

[wryter2000]

58. I love this, but

Why is a journalist posting scripture? I ask this as a devout Episcopalian.

I guess I should just be glad that they're finally using the L word--lie. And I am.

[kytngirl]

64. Here's my spin

I think he did it because he knew that the only people who would take issue with it or protest it are the Trumpers. In a way he's pointing out the hypocrisy. How can any Christian get upset when God's word is quoted verbatim?

Speaking of journalist shouldn't quote scripture...they shouldn't if it is somehow tied n with their job. However, Jake Tapper is also a private citizen. He didn't use CNN as a bandwagon but his personal twitter account.

[wryter2000]

104. Okay

I don't have a real problem with it.

[elmac]

63. time to start burning bibles

if the fascists own the book.

[LeftishBrit]

65. So they think telling lies is a Good Thing?

[SummerSnow]

67. Why are they so upset, I thought they were "Christians"?

[blueseas]

68. Thank you MR. Tapper!

I appreciate this.

[muntrv]

69. Another reminder that trumpistas are not Christians.

[WinkyDink]

82. Given that neither are his daughter, SIL Jared, and his grandchildren, so?

[BigBearJohn]

70. LMAO it's also been said that the truth hurts

[TNNurse]

71. So he did not mention Trump

Why do they think this is about him? Is it because they know he lies and they do not care??

[LisaM]

72. Trump fans are always furious.

In other news, water is wet.

[classykaren]

73. How about the one is Psalms. God will bring to ruin those ruining the earth.

[KPN]

76. Good. Let them "splode!"

That is our purpose now -- pushing back, helping them explode.

[WinkyDink]

77. That isn't part of "Prosperity Christianity."

[barbtries]

83. that's so funny.

but they're all so christian aren't they?!

trump's cult of personality is full of unstable, stupid people.

[Amimnoch]

84. Telling.

You just tweet about lying, and they instantly get defensive.

[Thomthom5300]

85. seems simple enough to me

How can that be an issue?
I also have always wondered WHO Jesus would bomb? Another simple answer.

[townie]

86. Clearly they are hypocrites

.

[Maraya1969]

87. Well fuck me for being a nobody. I have been doing this to politicians and other big mouthed

"Christians" for a while now. I've tweeted bible verses to Paula White, Trump's spiritual adviser who gave a prayer with a practiced smile on her mouth that made me want to punch her. I've tweeted bible verses to Franklin Graham and others and I've use that one you are talking about.

It actually goes like this, in full;


Proverbs 6:16-19King James Version (KJV)

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.


It was meant to be shown to hypocrites.

[Cha]

89. And, the truth shall set you free, MFs

[Mike Niendorff]

93. Also : "Thou shalt not steal."

Shout it from the rooftops to the "take their oil" crowd.


MDN

[tavalon]

94. I'm beginning to have very positive feelings about Tapper

[HopeAgain]

95. They wanted Obama to us the term "radical Islam"

we need to use the term "radical Christian," and keep pointing out how they corrupt the principles of the Bible.

[Kahuna7]

96. I gave that sandy character on that tweet thread a lesson on Christianity...

Not the first time I had to shut her down. I posted a jpeg of the Seven Deadly Sins, and reminded her that trump is guilty of all seven.

[annabanana]

97. truth hurts don't it?

[AllaN01Bear]

99. so good they HIDE BEHIND IT.

[left-of-center2012]

100. Trump might respond with something from 'Two Corinthians' n/t