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Osakagreg

(111 posts)
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 03:54 PM Jan 2017

Is America "Still" The Greatest Country In The World?

Is America "Still" The Greatest Country In The World? Has it ever been?

I think it certainly has been the greatest country in the world. But Trumps idea of "Great" seems to contradict world opinion as well as my own.

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Is America "Still" The Greatest Country In The World? (Original Post) Osakagreg Jan 2017 OP
what does that even mean, and why is it important? NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #1
++++++ gmta uppityperson Jan 2017 #4
. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #5
Not since January 20, 2017 at 11:59 EST Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #2
Define"great" and I don't understand why it would be a competition. uppityperson Jan 2017 #3
Not playing. Iggo Jan 2017 #6
not to hear trump talk...we're a third world nation spanone Jan 2017 #7
On January 20th the USA ceased to exist. We are living in the Corperation Of Trump now. Doreen Jan 2017 #8
I don't know why we are obsessed about it treestar Jan 2017 #9
Most powerful maybe loyalsister Jan 2017 #10
everything has change about our status MFM008 Jan 2017 #11
The US had merely 35 years of unilateral world dominance. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #12
America is among the greatest countries in the world. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #13
What's the metric? DavidDvorkin Jan 2017 #14

NRaleighLiberal

(60,019 posts)
1. what does that even mean, and why is it important?
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 03:56 PM
Jan 2017

Rabid nationalism only leads to misplaced narcissism...and trouble.

If people try to do no harm and be kind, things take care of themselves. But that will - could - never happen....too many individual agenda for too many reasons.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. I don't know why we are obsessed about it
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 04:10 PM
Jan 2017

Maybe people in any reasonable stable, happy country say that. If I were French, France would obviously be the "greatest country in the world."

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
10. Most powerful maybe
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 04:12 PM
Jan 2017

For example, our "greatest healthcare system" is very strong in the arena of technology, but the delivery is not designed to produce outcomes that maximize good health and quality of life. If profit for investors and executives makes the US great, that system is ideal because it produces profits in technology and minimizes insurance payouts.

The idea of the "American dream" is afallacy. It takes a lot of luck to achieve it, and you can easily handicap who have the better chances of getting there by circumstances of residency, family education levels, wealth, gender, skin color, and other dimensions which put people at a disadvantage.

So I think powerful, but not necessarily "great" in the ways most often advertised.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
11. everything has change about our status
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 04:43 PM
Jan 2017

except the weaponry.
Soon we will be just another vacation destination for wealthies....
brought to you by the maggot.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. The US had merely 35 years of unilateral world dominance.
Thu Jan 26, 2017, 04:47 PM
Jan 2017

The US had merely 35 years of unilateral world dominance (what I think most people refer to "when we were great!&quot . Compared to the rise and fall of many other great nation-states, our greatness wasn't really even that great when we realize unilateral dominance held by other nations for hundreds of years is the standard.

Yet during those 35 years, our "greatness" was critically predicated on exploitation of third world nations, preventing the expansion of second world nations, the ever-present mist of Jim Crow denying basic rights to a quarter of the nation, and a military far in excess of what was actually and practically needed.

So, no. Not really Great. Merely dominant. For only a tiny dot in history relative to many other dominant powers throughout history. Like Prussia or the Hanseatic League, the US will eventually be a simple footnote to the average, the under-educated and the complacent (as are most of us in the here and now) in its rise and dominance.

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