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Freedomofspeech

(4,225 posts)
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 11:37 PM Jan 2017

I have lost all my joy.

This first week has even been worse than I imagined. He must be very proud to turn those poor refugees away...he is the most crazy, disgusting, evil bastard I have ever seen. I really don't know how I can live through this.

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I have lost all my joy. (Original Post) Freedomofspeech Jan 2017 OP
There is always joy. madaboutharry Jan 2017 #1
I so wish that I could feel as you do. Freedomofspeech Jan 2017 #3
I have to work at it. madaboutharry Jan 2017 #4
I am learning to compartmentalize. Joy is essential to all of us. NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #2
What is helping me is knowing that history will see this clearly. He is solidifying his legacy TrekLuver Jan 2017 #5
I'm with you on that. Foo Fighter Jan 2017 #9
History is written by the victor. briv1016 Jan 2017 #15
The forces of regression never win the war Chitown Kev Jan 2017 #17
This. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2017 #37
With climate change and nuclear war looming, I don't think we have that kind of time. briv1016 Jan 2017 #39
So true. I often tell conservatives treestar Jan 2017 #45
Check in with your local and State Democratic Parties. Blue_true Jan 2017 #6
Noooooo! Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #7
I love how you put that - this is the xray showing us the cancer adigal Jan 2017 #18
We have to do this bdamomma Jan 2017 #20
Yes, and we need to do this for our own sake Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #28
I'm with you, Phoenix... TomJulie Jan 2017 #31
We have always been involved with our local democrats... Freedomofspeech Jan 2017 #8
As the wall doesnt get built snd they lose their Obamacare adigal Jan 2017 #19
I know it is Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #30
We call our liberal friends our fellow travelers, too. Freedomofspeech Jan 2017 #40
We'll kick his ass to hell flamingdem Jan 2017 #10
Oh I am sure we will bdamomma Jan 2017 #21
That shitgibbon will never rob me of my joy. cwydro Jan 2017 #11
Depression is anger turned inwards. Don't apcalc Jan 2017 #12
Yes! Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #22
I'm having anxiety attacks - and I live in Canada! GliderGuider Jan 2017 #13
Yea, I know what you mean bdamomma Jan 2017 #24
I'm getting money from a trust soon and am still depressed and anxious mvd Jan 2017 #14
It has been a very difficult week. mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #16
Oh I like your post. bdamomma Jan 2017 #27
I'm glad it helped. mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #32
You are right and I am so trying. Freedomofspeech Jan 2017 #41
How can i keep from singing? struggle4progress Jan 2017 #23
I understand where your are coming from. It has been hard for me too. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #25
Republican Jesus on steroids. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #26
No. You can't allow that. There is always joy to behold. Solly Mack Jan 2017 #29
I know AlexSFCA Jan 2017 #33
All I can add is that Trump will die. world wide wally Jan 2017 #34
Your post got to me. Chiquitita Jan 2017 #35
Live through it with us. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #36
If there is a march, rally, or demonstration in your area, go. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2017 #38
Thank you all for your kind words. Freedomofspeech Jan 2017 #42
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #43
George Bush was stupid... Freedomofspeech Jan 2017 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #47
good heart? irisblue Jan 2017 #48
I warned everyone I met that we had to stop Trump...but... Demsrule86 Jan 2017 #46
But you will... Stellar Jan 2017 #49
I feel the same butdiduvote Jan 2017 #50

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
1. There is always joy.
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 11:41 PM
Jan 2017

Life is impermanent. It is always changing. Believe that things will change and that we all deserve happiness and joy while we work to bring that change.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
2. I am learning to compartmentalize. Joy is essential to all of us.
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 11:43 PM
Jan 2017

I am going to channel my anger into some sort of action (right now, on a week vacation - and aside from my peeks at the news each day, it is pretty joyful!)

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
5. What is helping me is knowing that history will see this clearly. He is solidifying his legacy
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 11:44 PM
Jan 2017

alright and it's been rotten since he announced his "candidacy". History is going to eviscerate him. I'm also using humor (which I always do) to get through. Alcohol etc..might also not be a bad idea either...LOL.

Foo Fighter

(743 posts)
9. I'm with you on that.
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 11:53 PM
Jan 2017

Humor can get you through dark times.

Alcohol can too. I don't think my liver will survive four years of Trump, though. The Bush years were pretty hard on it.

Maybe I'll use that when I contact my Senators and Rep. Impeach now! Save my liver!

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
17. The forces of regression never win the war
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:18 AM
Jan 2017

only battles...

It may take a while to "win the war," though

treestar

(82,383 posts)
45. So true. I often tell conservatives
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 03:43 PM
Jan 2017

that they are making themselves miserable - they will lose long term - look at history.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. Check in with your local and State Democratic Parties.
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 11:46 PM
Jan 2017

See who is submitting themselves to run for office. Do what you can to support the ones that strike your fancy. Have civil debates with party leaders on the local and state level if their oriorities seemed misplaced. Our objective now must be forcing our national Democrats to oppose Trump and building up for 2018, where our goal should be to protect Senate seats and win House seats - the more seats we win, the better our chances of stopping Trump until we can defeat him in 2020. Also, 2017 and 2018 has some winnable Governor races where we can hold seats and take seats - with focus on taking State Legislature seats.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
7. Noooooo!
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 11:48 PM
Jan 2017

There is always joy. Survivors of the holocaust talk about celebrating birthdays. Do. Not. Let. Him. Win. That is the first step to surrender. I know this is hard. We thought we were so much better than this. And we're not but we will be. This is nothing more that an X-Ray showing us where the cancer is. It will be removed. We can and will do this.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
20. We have to do this
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:25 AM
Jan 2017

for the world's sake. We need to keep on our Senators and Rep for real call them every day.

I need to see Ryan and that jerk McConnell OUT.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
28. Yes, and we need to do this for our own sake
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:35 AM
Jan 2017

To be able to look in the mirror and know that we are who we thought we were. Do not allow the propaganda of hate to blind us to the truth. We are so much better than that. We know this. In our heart of hearts, we know this.

TomJulie

(98 posts)
31. I'm with you, Phoenix...
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:49 AM
Jan 2017

My wife and I are still doing exactly what we were doing before the Trumpocalypse. We're haven't noticed anything of real difference and still having fun as we have always have. We decided not to worry about it. Time passes quick. We'll get our turn again before we know it.

Freedomofspeech

(4,225 posts)
8. We have always been involved with our local democrats...
Fri Jan 27, 2017, 11:50 PM
Jan 2017

but South Western PA has turned so red. Our neighbors still have their Trump flags and signs in their yards. It's just so hard to face.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
19. As the wall doesnt get built snd they lose their Obamacare
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:20 AM
Jan 2017

Let us know as each sign comes down. Hang tight. I have PTSD, so I'm being hyper vigilant right now, cant stop listening to news. Its really not healthy. I have to walk away and breathe.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
30. I know it is
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:42 AM
Jan 2017

I'm in a deeply red area. But tonight I met a fellow traveler and he talked about how crazy Twitler is and he told me he liked my style. I needed that. It reassures me that we are not alone. Don't let them silence us. There's a reason Russia passed laws to allow men to beat their wives and children. It's a last ditch effort to enforce an archaic system on us. They know their time has passed and they are desperately trying to hang on. We will prevail.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
21. Oh I am sure we will
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:28 AM
Jan 2017

he looks pretty well beat up now. Oh but wait, he will be getting a call tomorrow from Russia With Love.

Boy, I would love to hear that conversation.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
22. Yes!
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:29 AM
Jan 2017

Exactly. Anger gets turned inward when it doesn't feel safe to turn it outward. It is always safer to turn it outward. Turning it inward leads to destruction of the self. Turning it outward may lead to destruction but it is not inevitable.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
13. I'm having anxiety attacks - and I live in Canada!
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:01 AM
Jan 2017

Even here this is an overwhelming experience. Like somebody is setting off waves of reality bombs.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
24. Yea, I know what you mean
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:31 AM
Jan 2017

I am an ex pat, I feel it too. Donations being sent almost every other week to worthy causes.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
14. I'm getting money from a trust soon and am still depressed and anxious
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:06 AM
Jan 2017

But yes, somehow we must turn that emotion into action. And really try not to think about him for periods of the day - do what you like to do. The first week has been really hard, but I remain convinced he will resign or have to be impeached before his 4 years are up. There are 3 million more of us than Trump voters, so we are certainly not alone. The democracy should survive, even if it takes hits.

mnhtnbb

(31,389 posts)
16. It has been a very difficult week.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:15 AM
Jan 2017

But you must find some joy somewhere. In the sunrise? Or watching the sunset? Watching birds coming to a feeder?
Take a walk around your neighborhood or in the park and enjoy the weather? Here there are signs of spring, but more cold is coming.
Go outside and watch the clouds. Do you see faces? Animals? Watch the moon come up?

Put on music. Dance around the house. Take the dog for an extra walk. Play with the kitty. Bake some cookies for a friend or a neighbor
and invite someone for coffee or tea when the house has the sweet aroma from baking.

The only way any of us is going to live with this is to find the moments of calm or beauty or silliness or caring in our own personal lives and cherish them.

And pass along hugs.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
25. I understand where your are coming from. It has been hard for me too.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:32 AM
Jan 2017

But going to the women's March was really uplifting for me. It gave me hope again. It made me feel connected to others like me. It almost felt like a support group. There was very much the spirit of togetherness and love. And now there is purpose. I am writing postcards to Congress critters this weekend and checking in with my local group of activists that I met at the march. I hope you find a local group and join too. It may not be much right now, but I think we are all taking baby steps. One strinking point I got from this past weekend is this: together, we shall rise.

Peace.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
29. No. You can't allow that. There is always joy to behold.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:36 AM
Jan 2017

As bad as it is, and it is very bad, you can't allow that man to rob you of everything.

Your very being, your very existence, is a reason for joy. We are all stronger together.

Your resistance to what is happening around you is a reason for joy.

That you don't stand alone in the fight against all things Trump is a reason for joy.

They want us to give up. They want us to give in to despair.

Don't do it.

You're not alone.







AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
33. I know
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 01:56 AM
Jan 2017

it's like every day is worse than yesterday. I am having troubles enjoying daily activities and focus on work, home.. it's the dark cloud follows me and I cant escape it

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
34. All I can add is that Trump will die.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:06 AM
Jan 2017

Hopefully sooner rather than later. Of course, pricks like him live to be 110 because God doesn't want him ruining heaven too.
Just keep in mind that he is a worthless, asshole, motherfucking son of a bitching fuckface phoney ass bitch and if there is a God, he will be struck mute before too long.
His plane might crash. He may drink something Melania gives him. Maybe he will fall asleep for 24 hours in the tanning bed. But ultimately.... He WILL die.

Then we can deal with Pence.

Chiquitita

(752 posts)
35. Your post got to me.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 08:58 AM
Jan 2017

That he, and all those who colluded in bringing about this sham government, is sucking the hope out of kind people like you-- it really burns me up.

Your life and your energy is precious. The bullies don't deserve anything of yours. Take courage in the outpouring of care here. Collectively we won't give up or give in--try to find folks who lift you up and try to be courageous for them too.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
36. Live through it with us.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 09:02 AM
Jan 2017

Find peace in something meaningful to you. I'm not sugar coating it. We are contentious people and see the harm these evil people are doing to others. I'm saying that in order to fight it we need you healthy. Anger, frustration, agitation.... All great motivators. But joy and optimism can hold a flock together and foster feelings of hope. This isn't the end. It's simply a part of the progression/regression of societies.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,073 posts)
38. If there is a march, rally, or demonstration in your area, go.
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 09:38 AM
Jan 2017

My hope and vitality were renewed at last Saturday's march in my state's capital. It was wonderful to be with people who marched for their own individual reasons, and yet we were of one mind and purpose.

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butdiduvote

(284 posts)
50. I feel the same
Sat Jan 28, 2017, 03:59 PM
Jan 2017

I want to remember what it's like to truly enjoy something, anything again. Any enjoyment I manage to find is blunted by the reality I'm aware of at the back of my head. To be honest, people telling me to stop letting him upset me, to turn my despair into action, etc. makes it worse. I'm not choosing to feel this way. I've tried refusing to let myself feel like this, but I can't seem to help it, and every time I cry out for help, someone feels a need to tell me to get over it or fight back or whatever other invalidating, backhanded piece of advice.

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