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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCNN host slaps down Congressman who cites American killers as justification for Muslim ban
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Congressman, can you point to a single terrorist attack in this country that was carried out by a Syrian refugee? CNNs Poppy Harlow said.
I think you could look at DHS records and see that refugees in general have often been the cloak under which terrorists do move from country to country, U.S. Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA). And we do not know whos coming in to our country.
Harlow doubled down, But Congressman, I asked if you could point to an event that you feel justifies this ban, that has endangered or killed American people.
Poppy, let me point to it, Ft. Hood, Orlando, San Bernardino, and terror attacks around the world, he said...
Congressman, youre talking about American citizens, Harlow said. I want to correct this for our viewers.
The Ft. Hood shooter, she said, Nadal Hassan, was born in Arlington, Virginia. The San Bernardino shooter was born in Illinois. Omar Mateen, the shooter in Orlandos Pulse nightclub massacre was born in New York.
How is that justification? she said.
read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/i-want-to-correct-this-for-our-viewers-cnn-host-fact-checks-trump-backers-muslim-ban-lie-on-air/
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malaise
(269,157 posts)scumbag - a pathological LIAR. These fuckers lied all through the Obama years - and M$Greedia hardly called them on their lies.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... are "MUST-NOT-SEE-TV" as far as I'm concerned.
malaise
(269,157 posts)after the slaughter of innocent Palestinians a few years ago
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I was so hoping never to see his ugly mug again after the election. Of course I was hoping for a legitimate election, and that didn't happen either.
malaise
(269,157 posts)dchill
(38,532 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)The "gee whiz" "I'm just a friendly southern fellah with the country's best interest in mind...."
By the way, she's good. Damn. She doesn't let him get away with the R habit of taking over the conversation by talking over the other person.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,663 posts)Pasty Repube fuckface.
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)ck4829
(35,091 posts)Oh wait, those were all non-Muslims... so, uh... Mental illness or drugs.
lastlib
(23,286 posts)The real terrorists ain't Muslim.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)was a Muslim American army psychiatrist who had self-radicalized shortly before he went on a shooting rampage.
The San Bernardino killers were Muslim, one American born, as wae the Orlando shooter.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)I guess the lives of Daniel M. Ferguson, Timothy W. Owens, and Carlos A. Lazaney-Rodriguez don't have a lot of value to our media and politicians.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/us/fort-hood-shooting/
Maybe if the shooter's name was Muhammad instead of Ivan?
whathehell
(29,090 posts)You might want to chill a tad now.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)The constant pretending that this didn't happen or he didn't exist could have something to do with the color of his skin. He's a light skinned Puerto Rican and Iraq war veteran. People often try to deny that he's American.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)ot that he's not American, I''d honestly not heard of him.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)Note: I don't mean you personally.
But why hasn't anyone heard of him?
Every time there is any mention of Muslims serving in our military, Republican politicians and social media racists bring up the fort hood shooter as if it has any relevance. And they act like there was only one shooting.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)and I do appreciate your little "not personal" caveat.
I'm a news junkie and never heard of this guy....I don't know that this was deliberately suppressed, there have been so many non-, religion based "random shootings, and they all seem to get a lot of publicity.
That being said, I firmly believe that the cause of most gun violence in the US is the LACK of gun safety laws -- Not Muslims, not a lack of mental health providers, but the open access to guns. It's appalling, and just one of the things we lost in the election, as Hillary promised to strengthen the gun laws.
starshine00
(531 posts)It is possible to point out the ineffectiveness of what Trump is doing (he is not banning entry into the US by anyone from Saudi Arabia, which is the native country of almost all of the 9/11 terrorists and Osama bin Laden), without distorting reality.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)The shootings I mentioned are real, and the shooters are not Muslim, and they are connected to each other by media and politicians who try to pretend they and their acts are not connected to any cultural or social factors.
starshine00
(531 posts)and I was responding more to the post that said "the real terrorists ain't muslim". I am a gay person and Orlando happened. The thing about terrorism is some terrorist acts don't nullify other terrorist acts. Christian fundamentalists and others committing terrorist acts doesn't somehow render islamic terrorism not 'real', which the families of many deceased muslims will tell you as muslims are the main victims of islamic terrorism.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)calimary
(81,466 posts)That miserable mouth-breather used to be a GOP Congressman from Georgia. Truly a CONgressman. He was one of four vermin running for Saxby Chambliss's seat after that goon decided to retire. I thoroughly enjoy reminding one and all that Saxby Chambliss was the ooze of runny shit who challenged triple-amputee Vietnam veteran Max Cleland (who gave three of his own limbs to that nightmare war, while that miserable chickenhawk Chambliss avoided serving) a few cycles back, and had the gall to question his patriotism because he was against the Iraq War. And horror of horrors, Chambliss won.
Jack Kingston did not win that Senate seat - a small comfort, at least. His bad behavior was not rewarded, thank God. Another CON got in - David Perdue.
starshine00
(531 posts)very visual impressions on my mind Thanks for the info
riversedge
(70,299 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)and the chill began. It is important that the all American interviewers are prepared to get to the truth.
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 29, 2017, 12:19 PM - Edit history (1)
I'm not sure why these talking head propagandist still suprise anybody with the audacious and blantant lies they peddle. Conservative media has been ensconcing bullshit as venerable truth for over 25 years now. These people and their supporters live in an alternate reality, complete with its own made up version of god, story of history, and present facts. As mentioned by a handful of astute folks on here, there is a shadowed hand at play. The institutionalization of centralized banking and the rise of the military industrial complex have been entrenching the global plutocracy for over 100 years. We are facing the endgame of those designs, folks, and the fascist global police state lies directly ahead on this path.
As mentioned elsewhere, research Alexander Dugin for a robust understanding of what is happening globally to the liberalism of western democracy. Dugin is the current master of puppets for the economic cabal that is suffocating our planet with poisonous air, water, earth, and rhetoric.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...the 'talking head' is defending the truth here.
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)In the traditional definitions, you are absolutely correct. I was transposing those monikers intentionally to make a point about the complicity of the media and the true believers being manipulated by propagandist. Sorry for any confusion.
starshine00
(531 posts)I am going to do some more reading on him later. Thanks for the heads up.
calimary
(81,466 posts)Good point about Dugin. I've seen this twice here now. I'm gonna look him up.
This will NOT end well if we don't find a way to stop trump.
Shit - the fact that he replaced the Joint Chiefs chairman AND the Director of National Intelligence from the Principals Committee of the National Security Council (!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!) so that fucking Nazi Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus could get in - SHIT!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/28/1626645/-Trump-removes-DNI-and-Chairman-of-Joint-Chiefs-from-National-Security-Council-And-adds-Bannon?detail=facebook
This is HORRIFYING!!!! And we're only NINE days into this ordeal! This shit CANNOT go on for four years!!!
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)Definitely look up Dugin. Sadly, I don't see the end to Trump's outrageous policy directives stopping. This man has never apologized or admitted being wrong about anything, and he won't stop now that he's the most powerful man in the world. He, and the entire movement he represents, will have to be removed and barred from power. Trump is the blunt and bludgeoning weapon of a much larger hand that has it's fingers embedded throughout our society and families. The true horror of Trump is that tens of millions of our fellow countrymen support him, and will support him no matter what. Those people are prepared to violently resist any effort to remove him from power. The fire rises...
calimary
(81,466 posts)His big thing is how to hasten "the end times."
And now he has a disciple with nukes at his disposal.
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)I live in Tennessee, and grew up in a fundamentalist home and environment. I personally know the type of people who truly believe in Trump and the entire alt-right/fascist/totalitarian/theocratic movement that his ascendant power represents in this country. They deny climate change science not because they have ever read any evidence, but because it's not described in the bible. They support nationalism because they believe the bible describes the appropriateness of tribal and hierarchical societies. I have been told both of things things (and many more dismaying and discouraging justifcations) repeatedly in conversation with members of my own family and their friends...and they are not alone...they are legion, my friend. These people will not be dissuaded. Their entire perception of reality is tied up in it. In a diplomatic world, there is no reason why secularists and zealots can't all have their own parcel. But our world's diplomacy is an illusion meant to set the world on fire. We are being directed to militarize against each other out of the perception that we're already attacking each other. And it is manifold across social, political, national, international, and religious lines.
videohead5
(2,181 posts)Full of shit!
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)Are you challenging my assertion, or referring to something else?
videohead5
(2,181 posts)That fool Kingston.
IamFortunesFool
(348 posts)Almost could feel sorry for them if they weren't pushing such toxic waste. There is a reason we used to tar and feather certain types of politicians... We need that sort of accountability again. I know that violence is abhorrently distasteful to to a philosophic mind, but PC culture has castrated us to such a point that we won't even stand up when we're being pissed on. Que Trumpee jokes...
George II
(67,782 posts)Cha
(297,655 posts)TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)And this is the way it MUST BE from all of them...enough already the gloves are off.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)Caught a bit of John King this a.m. He told of a response he got from someone in dt's inner rectum....er, I mean sanctum that, in effect said 'we don't have to be right, we're louder.'
King had an entire panel of truth tellers, none of the false 'balance' that's been eating away at the soul of true journalism for far too long now.
IronLionZion
(45,528 posts)SledDriver
(2,059 posts)Wiped the floor with him as he tried to backpedal and change the focus/subject...
See how easy that was? We need more of this!
Paladin
(28,272 posts)The MSM's tame, lapdog coverage of trump is one of the main reasons he's in the White House, now.
starshine00
(531 posts)& the ones that don't want to be lap dogs need to double down on the facts (the real ones not the alternative ones)
YallowTime
(9 posts)To appear on television.
Defending the indefensible with every word.
Good thing this scum bag was born here.....
mgardener
(1,819 posts)Why is there no ban on that country?
Would we know why if we saw Trump's tax returns?
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Are we supposed to worry about them, as well?
Many of the terrorists in Europe are second generation, as well.
Rex
(65,616 posts)in positions of power. Maybe their idiot followers will finally get a clue, but I doubt it.
Cha
(297,655 posts)on Poppy Harlow!
Excellent from cnn!
Good to know, bigtree.. this is major.