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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm sorry but how many attacks have been made on America from ....
.... Syria, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen?
We have a batshit crazy man as POTUS who is getting his
information from Steve Bannon and Alex Jones.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)While the order requires the Department of Homeland Security to issue a report within 180 days providing detailed statistics on foreign nationals who commit acts of violence, terrorism researchers have already produced rich and revealing data. For instance, since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, no one has been killed in the United States in a terrorist attack by anyone who emigrated from or whose parents emigrated from Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, the seven countries targeted in the orders 120-day visa ban, according to Charles Kurzman, a sociology professor at the University of North Carolina.
Of Muslim Americans involved in violent extremism of any kind for instance, charged with plotting terrorism or supporting a terrorist group only 23 percent had family backgrounds in those countries, said Mr. Kurzman, who just published the latest of his annual studies of Muslim Americans and terrorism.
The larger point of experts is that jihadist attacks garner news attention that far outstrips their prevalence in the United States, and the presidents order appears to address not a rational calculation of risks but the visceral fears that terrorists set out to inflame.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/politics/a-sweeping-order-unlikely-to-reduce-terrorist-threat.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
Botany
(70,581 posts)Thanx. I see this as part of a pattern that is not going to end well.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)every damn day.
Botany
(70,581 posts)Hell, the Russian hacking of our election got all the way to Green Bay Wisconsin.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)and a virulent Nazi guiding his hand.
Botany
(70,581 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)before we rise up against them?
Botany
(70,581 posts)n/t
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)You were not wrong.
Botany
(70,581 posts)So are members of Trump's team providing information to Putin and the Russians?
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Rachel Maddow just nailed it. Russia is guilty.
Earlier this month they broke a breathtaking story. In December, one of the high ranking officials in the Russian security service, in the cyber security department was attending a routine staff meeting when several armed police officers, burst in, threw a hood over his head, and dragged him from the room. That is the last anyone has seen of him, and the State charged him with treason. They then broke the story that another high ranking intelligence official, this time in counter intelligence had been fired. There was sketchy information as to whether or not the official had also been imprisoned and charged.
Rachels point was simple and concise. Russia has denied involvement all along. OK, fine. Thats your story, and youre sticking with it. But, if youre innocent, then as a nation, you dont need to do anything, there is no fire there, you didnt do anything, and nobody can prove a negative. But when you have police storm into a routine meeting, bag and wrestle out a senior cyber official, and then cashier a senior counter intelligence official in charge of making sure nobody blabs, you have just waved a giant red flag. It means that Putin has looked at the information in the dossier that the ex MI6 intelligence officer compiled on information compromising Trump, and has looked at the information in at least the public release of the combined intelligence assessment of Russian interference in the election, and he has realized that there is actually fire behind that smoke. And Putin is taking aggressive steps to stamp out that fire so that it doesnt occur again.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/27/1625826/-Rachel-Maddow-just-nailed-it-Russia-is-guilty?detail=email&link_id=6&can_id=9d9ab9550f6f19d630ddc2d594a7bd47&source=email-al-gore-saved-a-us-climate-change-conference-that-was-abruptly-canceled-after-trumps-election&email_referrer=al-gore-saved-a-us-climate-change-conference-that-was-abruptly-canceled-after-trumps-election___159185&email_subject=the-people-have-spoken-petition-to-trump-to-release-his-tax-returns-breaks-the-all-time-record
dawg
(10,624 posts)Besides, those countries have no Trump properties, so who cares?