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Drone strikes and targeted assassinations abroad have seen the US violating human rights in a way that "abets our enemies and alienates our friends", according to the former president Jimmy Carter.
He said America was "abandoning its role as a champion of human rights", and called on Washington to "reverse course and regain moral leadership".
Revelations that US officials were targeting people including their own citizens abroad were "only the most recent disturbing proof" of how far such violations had extended, he wrote in the New York Times.
At a time when popular revolutions were sweeping the globe, the US should be strengthening, not weakening, "basic rules of law and principles of justice", Carter said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/25/jimmy-carter-drone-strikes
upi402
(16,854 posts)keep going
Beacool
(30,250 posts)The candidate he supported in 2008.
Carter said: "Despite an arbitrary rule that any man killed by drones is declared an enemy terrorist, the death of nearby innocent women and children is accepted as inevitable. After more than 30 airstrikes on civilian homes this year in Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai has demanded that such attacks end, but the practice continues in areas of Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen that are not in any war zone. We don't know how many hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed in these attacks, each one approved by the highest authorities in Washington. This would have been unthinkable in previous times."
I imagine that he read the NY Times article on Obama's kill list. I wonder what Carter thinks of it.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)xiamiam
(4,906 posts)We were on the right track with human rights under Carter. We'll get there again as our consciousness evolves. We just need more enlightened leaders...and that is our dilemna at the moment.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)It made me sick to find out that our elected leaders on a weekly basis go through a list of people who are going to be killed via drones. It made me even sicker to know that anyone else in the vicinity of the intended target who the drones might kill are immediately labeled as "enemy combatants".
It's also interesting to note that although Hillary voiced concerns in 2009 about not doing something about the root cause of radicalization, it wasn't until last September that something was done about it.
"But in the months that followed, some officials felt the urgency of counterterrorism strikes was crowding out consideration of a broader strategy against radicalization. Though Mrs. Clinton strongly supported the strikes, she complained to colleagues about the drones-only approach at Situation Room meetings, in which discussion would focus exclusively on the pros, cons and timing of particular strikes.
At their weekly lunch, Mrs. Clinton told the president she thought there should be more attention paid to the root causes of radicalization, and Mr. Obama agreed. But it was September 2011 before he issued an executive order setting up a sophisticated, interagency war room at the State Department to counter the jihadi narrative on an hour-by-hour basis, posting messages and video online and providing talking points to embassies."
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His first term has seen private warnings from top officials about a Whac-A-Mole approach to counterterrorism; the invention of a new category of aerial attack following complaints of careless targeting; and presidential acquiescence in a formula for counting civilian deaths that some officials think is skewed to produce low numbers.
The administrations failure to forge a clear detention policy has created the impression among some members of Congress of a take-no-prisoners policy. And Mr. Obamas ambassador to Pakistan, Cameron P. Munter, has complained to colleagues that the C.I.A.s strikes drive American policy there, saying he didnt realize his main job was to kill people, a colleague said."
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
As much as I think that drones are helpful in weeding out avowed terrorists, they also are effective in killing far too many civilians and are being used as a recruitment source by various groups.
I understand the government's need to protect the nation from future attacks, but have we crossed a line where we have lost our moral compass and have become no better than those who attack us?
xiamiam
(4,906 posts)I don't think its rocket science to know this is wrong. It hurts my heart and leaves a knot in the pit of my stomach. I'm ashamed and humiliated by it..and I wish with all my heart for peace and love.
Selatius
(20,441 posts)Beacool
(30,250 posts)Unfortunately, not many pickings in the general election.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Too bad he has to explain this to a Nobel Peace prize winner.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Given more because of the hope that 5 Norwegians had for him than anything he had actually accomplished.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)NoMoreWarNow
(1,259 posts)Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)NoMoreWarNow
(1,259 posts)criticizing Obama on this needs to be done, and it's not like Romney is going to be better.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)If Bush was doing this....DU would be up in arms.
The drone strikes are wrong.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)understand?
xiamiam
(4,906 posts)that is what is impossible to understand..supporting a policy which violates every fiber of your moral being because your guy is the one doing it..its wrong..when I see anyone supporting it, I just do the ignore thing..I don't want to engage with anyone who needs to have right and wrong explained to them..its a losing battle as there is some screw loose..in my opinion