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applegrove

(118,831 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:49 PM Feb 2017

I dont need the Mexicans: Report claims Trump threatened to send troops to Mexico in call with Ni

by Erin Corbett at the Raw Story

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/i-dont-need-the-mexicans-report-claims-trump-threatened-to-send-troops-to-mexico-in-call-with-nieto/

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The call came after White House press secretary Sean Spicer said during a presser that the Trump administration was considering a 20 percent border tax on Mexican imports to pay for the wall.

Journalist Dolia Estevez told the Mexican news outlet Aristegui Noticias that, based on sources close to both the Mexican president and the Trump administration, “It was a very offensive conversation where Trump humiliated Peña Nieto.”

Trump reportedly told the Mexican president that he doesn’t “need the Mexicans,” adding, “I don’t need Mexico. We are going to build the wall and you all are going to pay for it, like it or not.”

Estevez added that Trump reportedly threatened to send troops into Mexico to “fight against narco trafficking.” White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner were allegedly both on the call. Estevez said, “Before this unusual onslaught, Peña was not firm. He was stammering.”



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I dont need the Mexicans: Report claims Trump threatened to send troops to Mexico in call with Ni (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2017 OP
Sources in the Trump Administration - are they applegrove Feb 2017 #1
Horrifying. Freedomofspeech Feb 2017 #2
I wonder if he has a food taster???? bdamomma Feb 2017 #19
Ha... Freedomofspeech Feb 2017 #39
We don't need Mexico? America wouldn't be America without Mexico. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #3
The Mexicans can break the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo if we send troops into Mexico. roamer65 Feb 2017 #4
Holy crap. We're turning into the antagonist in the Domino Effect scenario. Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #9
And there are plenty of Mexicans, Mexican-Americans, and Ilsa Feb 2017 #13
Mexico should immediately start negotiating with Canada and Europe still_one Feb 2017 #5
What I was thinking. That heads of countries who are reasonable and have been allies are Amaryllis Feb 2017 #34
Mexico is negotiating with China. nt SunSeeker Feb 2017 #35
interesting still_one Feb 2017 #41
I TeddyBear 1 Feb 2017 #6
What a fucking psychopath BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #7
Trump would be declaring war on our neighbor and the whole world would unite against the a**hole Doodley Feb 2017 #8
He's been President for a week and he's already threatening one of our closest allies?? ElementaryPenguin Feb 2017 #10
He even bullied Australia bdamomma Feb 2017 #21
Threats to the world, not just us. Amaryllis Feb 2017 #43
I asked a linguist friend to come up with a Nahuatl word to describe Donald Trump Xipe Totec Feb 2017 #11
What Mexico may do is start engaging China in a defense pact. I can see it now , Mexican and Augiedog Feb 2017 #12
Careful, Pena Nieto has political opposition too, so this smells like a smear piece. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #14
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Feb 2017 #38
Please help me out here GeoWilliam750 Feb 2017 #15
So after four years how many will that be or will we all be dead? nt Quixote1818 Feb 2017 #16
They might have to bring back the draft to fight multiple wars. We used up notdarkyet Feb 2017 #30
Yes and Trumpenfuhrer also browbeat and insulted workinclasszero Feb 2017 #20
Putin is going towards the Ukraine bdamomma Feb 2017 #23
A very little donnie. GP6971 Feb 2017 #27
And why was trump talking to Putin again today. Maybe all notdarkyet Feb 2017 #31
Trump and Bannon will never cross Putin workinclasszero Feb 2017 #40
That is correct. ananda Feb 2017 #36
I wonder GeoWilliam750 Feb 2017 #37
you wonder if bdamomma Feb 2017 #42
Please tell me this isn't true... -Steph- Feb 2017 #17
There was only one president participating in that conversation. lpbk2713 Feb 2017 #18
I pointed this out in an earlier article which didn't have this part of the translation herding cats Feb 2017 #22
Thanks. I try and read previous posts so I don't duplicate. Sometimes I applegrove Feb 2017 #24
Yours is more comprehensive. herding cats Feb 2017 #25
where are the heroes? bora13 Feb 2017 #26
Was he drunk? Or just a TREMENDOUS asshole? SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #28
So the Mexican President Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #29
Yep. I've thought that too. I know a few. notdarkyet Feb 2017 #32
My neighbor went back to her Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #33

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
4. The Mexicans can break the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo if we send troops into Mexico.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:53 PM
Feb 2017

I have a feeling they will have the support of quite a few Central and South American nations.

Ilsa

(61,700 posts)
13. And there are plenty of Mexicans, Mexican-Americans, and
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:36 PM
Feb 2017

Gringos in the US that would turn against trump for starting violent assaults on Mexico.

Why don't they see how fucked up he is?

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
34. What I was thinking. That heads of countries who are reasonable and have been allies are
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:46 PM
Feb 2017

probably having a lot of conference calls with each other.

TeddyBear 1

(79 posts)
6. I
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 08:03 PM
Feb 2017

hope this is not true.. They are just itching for a war someplace..

What next? Trump does not need Canada also?

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
10. He's been President for a week and he's already threatening one of our closest allies??
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 08:07 PM
Feb 2017

WTF??? He needs to be removed from office pronto. The GOP better stop focusing on the advantages to their party this cheating, lying lunatic might provide - and start seriously considering THE THREATS TO THIS NATION this monster poses!!!!!!

bdamomma

(63,928 posts)
21. He even bullied Australia
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:57 PM
Feb 2017

the Aussies????? He is mentally not well. There are a lot of things we could say here about him but refrain they would probably think we are a terrorist site.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
11. I asked a linguist friend to come up with a Nahuatl word to describe Donald Trump
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:30 PM
Feb 2017

He came up with tlahyellahtōleh: shit talker

tlahyellahtōlli literally means "shit words" (stupid obscene utterances)

so tlahyellahtōleh would be "shit talker"

Augiedog

(2,548 posts)
12. What Mexico may do is start engaging China in a defense pact. I can see it now , Mexican and
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:34 PM
Feb 2017

Chinese troops facing off against American troops at the border. Once the first shot is fired our economy collapses because china owns us lock stock and gun barrel.

Why is anyone surprised tRump is restarting the Mexican American war all over again. God he's a monsterous asshole.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,047 posts)
14. Careful, Pena Nieto has political opposition too, so this smells like a smear piece.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:37 PM
Feb 2017

"He was stammering" could be fake news.

It would not surprise me in the slightest if tRump said the things the article claims he said. But the slam against Nieto seems just that.

Nieto has been 100% firm in public on record that Mexico will not pay for any wall, no way, no how.

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
15. Please help me out here
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:38 PM
Feb 2017

In the first two weeks, we have effectively threatened war with China, Iran, and Mexico.

Is this correct?

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
30. They might have to bring back the draft to fight multiple wars. We used up
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:29 PM
Feb 2017

Our soldiers for the Iraq, Afghanistan wars. People did four and five tours. Try and bring the draft back and we might really have a French Revolution.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
20. Yes and Trumpenfuhrer also browbeat and insulted
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:53 PM
Feb 2017

The Australian Prime Minister on the phone.

Give it one more week and every country in the world will hate our guts except Putin's Russia.

GP6971

(31,222 posts)
27. A very little donnie.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:14 PM
Feb 2017

That's where the threat is right now. We'll need to watch that area very carefully. Threatening the world is going to get us in deep shit.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
31. And why was trump talking to Putin again today. Maybe all
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:32 PM
Feb 2017

This Muslim, Mexico stuff are big distractions to deflect from Russia.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
40. Trump and Bannon will never cross Putin
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:48 PM
Feb 2017

On anything.
They are in cahoots.

Or co-conspirators if you like.
They have some kind of deal going with Putin.

ananda

(28,879 posts)
36. That is correct.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:46 PM
Feb 2017

The one thing I fear the most is the reinstitution of the draft.

Trump-Bannon-Putin act like they're mad for a war, and with
Bannon/Trump it seems to be any war with anybody, just for
the fun of having a war ...

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
37. I wonder
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:55 PM
Feb 2017

Is it possible that if the Republicans attempted to reinstate a draft of all the boys and girls, it might result in an open revolt?

Relatively few people actually WANT to send their children off to war.

lpbk2713

(42,769 posts)
18. There was only one president participating in that conversation.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 09:51 PM
Feb 2017



At the other end was was a dumbass buffoon.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
22. I pointed this out in an earlier article which didn't have this part of the translation
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:03 PM
Feb 2017

This is kind of a big deal, if this reporting is true.

My previous post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8579209

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
25. Yours is more comprehensive.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:08 PM
Feb 2017

I didn't make that clear, but I was pleased to see it covered in your article.

bora13

(860 posts)
26. where are the heroes?
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:09 PM
Feb 2017

i like presidents who are genuine heroes.
Where is Studebaker Hawk when you need him?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
29. So the Mexican President
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:17 PM
Feb 2017

declares all US ex-pats illegal and confiscates their Property. Well well,there are some 2.5 million ex-pats living in Mexico at this time. Getting more interesting by the minute.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
33. My neighbor went back to her
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:38 PM
Feb 2017

place south of San Diego,her Cousin stopped by and said,her was hassled at the Border by the Mexican Agents. Sounds like the good old days are gone for ever.

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