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CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:14 PM Feb 2017

Trump will roll back Obama rule that protected retirees from getting bilked by their advisers

Trump also plans to sign an executive order paving the way to dismantle financial regulations.

On Friday, President Trump plans to sign an executive order rolling back protections put in place by the Obama administration to ensure financial advisers can’t give retirees bad advice to enrich themselves.

Before what became known as the fiduciary duty rule was put in place, advisers who help retirees decide where to invest their money were allowed to steer clients toward products that made the advisers money but weren’t in the clients’ best interest. This practice was costing Americans an estimated $17 billion a year.

One of them was Phil Ashburn. When he was offered a buyout after 30 years at Pacific Bell, he turned to a financial broker for advice on how to invest the money, who told him she would make him rich and he’d be set for life. But after she convinced him to put his money in a variable annuity, which fluctuates based on market performance, his original $355,000 investment went down to just $70,000 by 2015.

The broker had goaded him into that product because it made her money: she worked solely on commission and made $900,000 a year off of selling variable annuities.

Now Ashburn is worried about losing his house, and he and his wife can’t afford holiday gifts for their grandchildren. “This is something I wake up thinking about every morning,” he told ThinkProgress. “My stomach is tied in knots. I feel like a failure. It plays on you mentally and physically.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-executive-orders-wall-street-bc0d65ccc5f8#.okopigv7y
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Trump will roll back Obama rule that protected retirees from getting bilked by their advisers (Original Post) CousinIT Feb 2017 OP
Trump sells out retirees to Wall Street and removes protections against economic collapse CousinIT Feb 2017 #1
Years ago a friend Turbineguy Feb 2017 #2
This is and was more common happening Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #5
If they roll back the regulations that are set to take effect April 10, Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #3
The irony atreides1 Feb 2017 #4
Well malaise Feb 2017 #6
Pretty simple rules to investing taught_me_patience Feb 2017 #7
Buy a low load S&P index fund and an index fund for bonds Yavin4 Feb 2017 #8
Sleep well at night. Turbineguy Feb 2017 #9

CousinIT

(9,247 posts)
1. Trump sells out retirees to Wall Street and removes protections against economic collapse
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:21 PM
Feb 2017

For over a year, Donald Trump repeatedly stated that his vast wealth made him immune to outside influence and warned against the power of a particular Wall Street firm.

During his campaign, Trump sharply criticized Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for not releasing transcripts of speeches she gave to Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street banks. He also accused Clinton and former Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz of being controlled by Goldman Sachs.


But now that Trump has installed Goldman Sachs alumni in every corner of the White House, it’s time for him to show his independence by … rolling over with his belly to the sky.

President Donald Trump on Friday plans to sign an executive action to scale back the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial-overhaul law, in a sweeping plan to dismantle much of the regulatory system put in place after the financial crisis.


https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/2/3/1629437/-Trump-sells-out-retirees-to-Wall-Street-and-removes-protections-against-economic-collapse

Turbineguy

(37,353 posts)
2. Years ago a friend
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:22 PM
Feb 2017

lost a bunch of money when it turned out that the advisor who was actually running the account was a compulsive gambler. The company made good on the losses.

If the transgression is egregious enough you have recourse. In this case the compensation helped create this problem.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. This is and was more common happening
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:51 PM
Feb 2017

than is ever reported. When the new Advisor rule came to be,it also prevented Advisor's and Broker Dealers from front running his or her clients. What this repeal will do is,bring back the Churning of Rolladexes which was a major money maker for the folks at Dean Witter,Merrill Lynch,Schwab,and others. What is means is,people are trading your accounts without your permission and or your knowledge.

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
3. If they roll back the regulations that are set to take effect April 10,
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:28 PM
Feb 2017

I'll cheer.

Some of those make it much more costly for me to work with my advisor. To actively trade mutual funds, I will have to pay a fee based on the amount in my account. If I don't opt into that relationship, when my mutual funds spin dividends I can no longer reinvest them. I'll have to switch to EFTs (which have, historically, not done as well as the funds I reinvest).

I rarely shift funds, but I do reinvest dividends - and as of April I will no longer be able to do that on the two funds I have held the longest - and which have, over time, significantly outperformed the market. Or choose to pay about a 10-fold increase in annual fees.

atreides1

(16,082 posts)
4. The irony
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:30 PM
Feb 2017

Is that this will probably have an adverse affect on people who voted for him...for them I don't give two shits! But, their narrow mindedness and intentional stupidity has hurt others...and for those people I am truly sorry!!!

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
7. Pretty simple rules to investing
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 03:24 PM
Feb 2017

diversify
invest in low load index funds
allocate between stocks and bonds according to your risk tolerance. For 98% of the population, Vanguard target funds are a good mix of stocks and bonds.

That's it folks. Be skeptical of:
1) Advisors giving advice to time the market. Market timing has been proven over and over again to not beat simple index funds and dollar cost averaging. If the advisor can really time the market, why are they giving you advice and not working for Warren Buffet?
2) High fee mutual funds. Index funds beat 90% of mutual funds over the long term and have way lower fees.
3) Anything with "Annuity" in it
4) Anything with "insurance" in it
5) Anything "guaranteeing" a return.

That's it.

Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
8. Buy a low load S&P index fund and an index fund for bonds
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 03:27 PM
Feb 2017

Keep some money in savings.

Sleep well at night.

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