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Why America is Severely Broken (Original Post) grahamhgreen Jun 2012 OP
And the "job creators" will have the nerve to say we make too much. Initech Jun 2012 #1
In reality, they are job killers, Walmart has had a huge hand in outsourcing US manufacturing. grahamhgreen Jun 2012 #5
We do have anti trust laws. Why are they never used? abelenkpe Jun 2012 #13
Chicago School of Economics has replaced them. truedelphi Jun 2012 #21
Money and power in the right places rule, the rest of us just talk. We live RKP5637 Jun 2012 #28
Yup - the billionaires have caused more death and destruction on this planet than any terrorist could ever dream of. Initech Jun 2012 #19
One could almost postulate that the billionaires are the terrorists... grahamhgreen Jun 2012 #22
I've been saying that for quite a while now. Initech Jun 2012 #24
Yes, that is a true statement for the majority of them. Also our RKP5637 Jun 2012 #29
Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2012 #2
She's taller than me. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #3
...but a smaller person. JHB Jun 2012 #14
"Worth" 21,000 piles of $1,000,000 each. RadiationTherapy Jun 2012 #4
65 years of professional propaganda dished out by the 1% has also made America sick. nt ladjf Jun 2012 #6
Yep. Propaganda is a powerful tool. SalviaBlue Jun 2012 #7
Absolutely. Alex Carey documented the history... Octafish Jun 2012 #8
Thanks for the book rec.... on my list. grahamhgreen Jun 2012 #11
Socialism! LiberalEsto Jun 2012 #9
And those creating public policy want to keep Alice from ever paying as much of her income in taxes indepat Jun 2012 #10
But, but but she bought the midwest an art museum..... MindMover Jun 2012 #12
+1000 1 in 7 Americans on 'Food Stamps' clang1 Jun 2012 #15
35,000 registered lobbyists swarm Capital Hill.... lib2DaBone Jun 2012 #16
And for all the money that we pay, it's not even good political theater. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #27
It's much simpler than that. Alice Walton and other wealthy people buy our politicians. Selatius Jun 2012 #17
re: problem is our privately funded election system. If that is addressed, we'll see long-lasting ch clang1 Jun 2012 #20
A nice 91% 'greatest generation' tax rate on the wealthiest would surely help. grahamhgreen Jun 2012 #23
We used to incentiveize job creation. It was market oriented, non-micromanaging program called... JHB Jun 2012 #18
Alice Watson is a drunk Bryn Jun 2012 #25
Guilty conscience. grahamhgreen Jun 2012 #33
Why? Because the super-rich and their politicians favor let's-send-jobs-to-foreign-countries, AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #26
True. Very nice rundown. grahamhgreen Jun 2012 #31
Rec. progressoid Jun 2012 #30
And she's an alcoholic because of it. BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #32
History shows that Class Warfare will end with Words. GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #34
 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
5. In reality, they are job killers, Walmart has had a huge hand in outsourcing US manufacturing.
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 05:57 PM
Jun 2012

They need to be busted up as any monopoly would be.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
21. Chicago School of Economics has replaced them.
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jun 2012

Anti Trust laws are so not "freedom of the markets to regulate themselves." Or so say the propagandists that brought us these policies, and all their puppets (including leadership in both parties.)

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
28. Money and power in the right places rule, the rest of us just talk. We live
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 10:17 PM
Jun 2012

with a failed capitalistic system morphed into a corpocracy, hoping it will get better, it won't.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
19. Yup - the billionaires have caused more death and destruction on this planet than any terrorist could ever dream of.
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:21 PM
Jun 2012

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
29. Yes, that is a true statement for the majority of them. Also our
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 10:20 PM
Jun 2012

financial system has favored and allowed sociopaths to rise to the top of the heap. These people, most of them, could give a F about the majority of the citizens or the country. They are only interested, most of them, in extracting the wealth of the country for themselves, and greed rules for them.

SalviaBlue

(2,917 posts)
7. Yep. Propaganda is a powerful tool.
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 06:07 PM
Jun 2012

Its been used against us for a long time and gets more and more sophisticated.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
10. And those creating public policy want to keep Alice from ever paying as much of her income in taxes
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 06:11 PM
Jun 2012

at all levels as do those Walmart employees who are on food stamps. Additionally, those creating public policy don't want Alice's heirs to ever be burdened with estate taxes. The enemies within are those who foster and promote such national policies.

 

clang1

(884 posts)
15. +1000 1 in 7 Americans on 'Food Stamps'
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:14 PM
Jun 2012

No such thing as 'the job creators', we know that. Saying it again anyway. It's just propaganda. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. Designed to delude people. That is what propaganda of deception does. Call it what it is.

 

lib2DaBone

(8,124 posts)
16. 35,000 registered lobbyists swarm Capital Hill....
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:15 PM
Jun 2012

The Corporate Lobbyists write the laws.. and Congress rubber stamps them.

NO ONE in Washington is concerned about what is best for the American people.

We do not live in a democracy.. its only political theater....

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
17. It's much simpler than that. Alice Walton and other wealthy people buy our politicians.
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:18 PM
Jun 2012

Who is in the best position to fund the campaign expenses of a politician running for office? Rich people. Alice Walton could subsidize thirty or forty congressional races at the same time if she wishes and still walk away with more money on interest alone.

A rich person who could subsidize thirty or forty races has the advantage of unanimity of purpose and short decision-making time. Tens of thousands of working class/working poor voters could never agree to a platform or choose a course of action as quickly as one person who could fund the same amount of politicians.

Our problem is our privately funded election system. If that is addressed, we'll see long-lasting change. Other than that, it's just addressing the symptoms and not the causes.

 

clang1

(884 posts)
20. re: problem is our privately funded election system. If that is addressed, we'll see long-lasting ch
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:28 PM
Jun 2012

I agree to an extent, but there are other problems.

Taking the money out of all this would solve a LOT. Both in elections and deal with the lobbyists money as well. If you don't get both, less money in the elections is just sticking fingers in a leaking dike. Now it is even more crazy with Citizens United as everyone knows. It's like a fire. Good luck trying to put it out, though it has to be done.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
18. We used to incentiveize job creation. It was market oriented, non-micromanaging program called...
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:18 PM
Jun 2012

...the progressive tax system.

If you were up in the economic stratosphere, you could build your wealth in ways that help build everyone else's, or you could take it as liquid cash, in which case Uncle Sam would take a nice big chunk so that you would ask yourself "is this extra wad of cash really necessary?" It changed the economic decisions the wealthy made in order to NOT pay that huge chunk.

But these days it's communism to suggest that jaaahb creeaters merely slow down how fast they get more wealthy by upping salaries a little. Just ask FOX.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
26. Why? Because the super-rich and their politicians favor let's-send-jobs-to-foreign-countries,
Tue Jun 26, 2012, 09:56 PM
Jun 2012

"free-trade" agreements.

1994 - North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA)
2001 - Jordan – United States Free Trade Agreement
2004 - Australia-United States Free Trade Agreement
2004 - Chile - United States Free Trade Agreement
2004 - Singapore – United States Free Trade Agreement
2006 - Bahrain – United States Free Trade Agreement
2006 - Morocco - United States Free Trade Agreement
2006 - Oman – United States Free Trade Agreement
2007 - Peru – United States Trade Promotion Agreement
2005 - Dominican Republic–Central America Free Trade Agreement (DR-CAFTA; incl. Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and the Dominican Republic)
2011 - Panama - United States Trade Promotion Agreement
2011 - Colombia - United States Trade Promotion Agreement
2011 - Republic of Korea (South Korea) - United States Free Trade Agreement

The super-rich and their politicians are also working on:
Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA)
Middle East Free Trade Area (MEFTA)
Transatlantic Free Trade Area (TAFTA)
Free Trade Area of the Asia-Pacific Region (FTAAP)
Trans-Pacific Strategic Economic Partnership (TPP)

The Administration and eight Pacific Rim nations are working on adopting another wage-lowering, let's-send-even-more-jobs-to-foreign countries "free-trade" agreement which, when signed will be known as the Trans-Pacific Free Trade Agreement. Some are calling it NAFTA on steroids.

If you haven't heard about the ongoing work re the Trans-Pac FTA, it may because it's not going to be good for you.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
32. And she's an alcoholic because of it.
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:12 AM
Jun 2012

She wants it all and the guilt of her wrongness can't be covered up. Probably why she built the museum, but it still doesn't change the misery she causes.

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