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ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 02:14 AM Feb 2017

At the grocery store today,

we bought a whole lot of produce, like we usually do every two weeks, including bell peppers, lettuce, broccoli, red grapes, celery, cherry tomatoes, onions, bananas. This time I looked at the labels: most of them came from Mexico. The grapes came from Peru and the bananas from Columbia, and the only two that were from the U.S. were the broccoli and the onions.

Trump and his stupid import taxes would raise everyone's grocery bills, unless they don't like fresh produce!

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Cha

(297,446 posts)
1. I get mine at the health food store downstairs and the
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 02:19 AM
Feb 2017

produce is from local farmers or California but I know what you mean.. especially in the winter time.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
3. Wisconsin doesn't have much fresh produce
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 02:24 AM
Feb 2017

in the wintertime! We do have potatoes and onions, which can be warehoused.

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
15. Apples and winter squash can make it to February.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 02:18 AM
Feb 2017

Cabbage is weird by March unless you've had the foresight to turn it into sauerkraut or kimchee. Veg that could survive longer were potatoes, turnips, onions, parsnips, and carrots, especially if kept in the dark and packed in straw so they didn't dry out. In milder climates, root veg could be kept in the ground but the carrots especially were very woody by March.

Apples turned into apple butter might keep a bit longer. Berries turned into chutneys, jellies and jams also survived well.

I really don't want to go back to the 1950s grocery selection. Yuck. There was a reason most people lived on slimy canned veg in the winter. There was really not much else.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
6. Smoot-Hawley... Hoot-Smalley
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 03:12 AM
Feb 2017

We all know they got nothing on Donald J Trump
They didn't set out to Make America Great Again
Donald's a smart guy. He knows a lot of things. He's seen a lot of military movies. I'm certain he's seen a lot of movies about rich people and with people unloading things from ships, so he knows trade.
And Scott Baio supported him
How could you ever doubt the man?

If I need a sarcasm tag for this I'm hiding whoever thinks it

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
16. The Depression was worldwide
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 02:29 AM
Feb 2017

and Smoot-Hawley was to prevent other countries dumping their products here at a loss when they couldn't sell them domestically. The tariffs were a hamfisted attempt to protect US agriculture and the industry that remained. They were a colossally stupid thing to do, only triggering a trade war that made industries that depended on export go under.

While the Depression was triggered by the collapse of the US stock market followed rapidly by the collapse of the banking system here and abroad, what prolonged it wasn't trouble in the supply side, it was that the demand side had dried up. People simply didn't have the money to buy anything that didn't contribute to their immediate survival. If they had jobs, they couldn't be sure those jobs would last so spending just stopped.

Even Roosevelt tried the stupid conservative solution of dumping produce in order to try to drive the price up. When it finally dawned on him that the stuff wasn't selling at any price because there was no demand, we finally got the New Deal.

madaboutharry

(40,216 posts)
4. There are other foods that come from outside
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 02:24 AM
Feb 2017

the United States. Today I was in Costco and was looking at Norwegian smoked salmon that was packaged in Greece. That is just one example. And a lot of things made in the U.S. have ingredients from overseas.

The entire garment industry will be thrown into chaos. Not to mention the tech industry.

Trump is not smart. He is impulsive. He doesn't possess the critical thinking skills to think about the ramifications of a decision.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
5. you can't buy clothing made in the U.S.--
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 02:26 AM
Feb 2017

At least not at moderate prices. I've looked. Even Land's End, which used to operate here in Wisconsin, has now outsourced.

no_hypocrisy

(46,150 posts)
10. Paying for half a dozen items of fresh produce is equivalent to a trip to the meat counter.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 07:59 AM
Feb 2017

If prices go any higher, I'll need a co-signer.

we can do it

(12,190 posts)
14. Dump only eats processed garbage, so freshness isn't important to him.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:52 PM
Feb 2017

Also note he wants to get rid of FDA.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
17. Because America producing it's own food is a bad thing?
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 05:36 AM
Feb 2017

These arguments are nonsense.


You know, there was a time when liberals cared about the ~$600 billion a year trade deficit.

I guess keeping celery at 49 cents is more important, because that extra ten cents a 20% increase represents is just so much more important.



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