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kairos12

(12,865 posts)
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:08 PM Feb 2017

I always thought Drumpt would create a "Burning Reichstag" incident

but now it seems all he will do is create a fictitious event and blame the "dishonest media" for not reporting it.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/donald-trump-claims-the-very-dishonest-press-is-covering-up-terror-attacks/

snip:
President Donald Trump on Monday accused the media of covering up terrorist attacks in Europe.

Trump said that terrorism had gotten so bad that “it’s not even being reported. And in many cases the very, very dishonest press doesn’t want to report it.”

Snip ends.

Kelly Ann Con Man's comment on Bowling Green was trial balloon that didn't work. They will refine it.

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I always thought Drumpt would create a "Burning Reichstag" incident (Original Post) kairos12 Feb 2017 OP
No I don't think so vlyons Feb 2017 #1
He will. Right now he is using agent provocateurs to disrupt ghostsinthemachine Feb 2017 #2
Um . . . Richard D Feb 2017 #3
Well that's assuming 9-11 was NOT ghostsinthemachine Feb 2017 #5
To me, in this context Richard D Feb 2017 #6
To be a Reichstag event though ghostsinthemachine Feb 2017 #8
may the gods help us . . . Richard D Feb 2017 #9
Hah. Fox "news" will be blaming Bowling Green on "liberals" before you know it... First Speaker Feb 2017 #4
Unfortunately, I think we're being played. jalan48 Feb 2017 #7

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. No I don't think so
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:24 PM
Feb 2017

They don't do nuance very well. Kellyanne could have deflated the uproar over her BG comment by simply apologizing for mis-speaking. As in, "Gee I'm sorry. Please accept my apologies for mis-speaking about an attack at BG University. I got it all wrong. I'm sorry and promise to do a better job of being sure of my info in the future."

Now how hard was that? Apparently harder than climbing Mt Everest. RWers don't do confession, remorse, embarrassment, shame, apologies so well.

Rachel Maddow apologizes all the time, on air, whenever she learns that she has mis-spoken. So do a lot of other real journalists.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
2. He will. Right now he is using agent provocateurs to disrupt
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:34 PM
Feb 2017

Protests. Black bloc people. All there to throw Molotov cocktails, break windows and violence in order to discredit the protests.

The "Reichstag" incident is down the line. Once every other attempt to control people is spent, then bring out the big guns. Never play your ace to open.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
5. Well that's assuming 9-11 was NOT
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 10:30 AM
Feb 2017

A bunch of terrorists hijacking planes, controlled by religious ideology, but rather, an inside job, a "Reichstag incident".

I can go there surely but when they played that card, it was the only card they had to play. The Florida voting thing was about to boil over, protests were breaking out, etc.

Richard D

(8,757 posts)
6. To me, in this context
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:28 AM
Feb 2017

It doesn't matter if it was mihop, lihop, or what it actually seemed to be. It was, effectively used as a Reighstag event by the bush administration to further their goals and agendas.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
8. To be a Reichstag event though
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:46 AM
Feb 2017

You need Govt complicity. Without it, then it is an actual attack. Yes they both work the same way, and some of the goals are achieved, agendas realized because of the attack, but unless the Govt actually committed the event in order to achieve those goals, you can't truly call it a Reichstag event.

For the record, I do not believe Trump will create a Reichstag event. However I am sure that we will be attacked by terrorists, in a huge 9-11 type attack, before the end of the year. Not that Trump is above that, I just think the actual terrorists will beat him to it. Both, as far as Americans care concerned, will have the same effect on laws, hate etc...

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
4. Hah. Fox "news" will be blaming Bowling Green on "liberals" before you know it...
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 12:08 AM
Feb 2017

...24/7 coverage, House "hearings"...and even the mainstream media will shut down anyone who goes on TV and says it never happened. If enough right-wing scum say it happened, it happened. The "backlash" against the "liberal media" for mocking the Bowling Green Massacre will begin any day now. I'm about 50% serious in this argument...

jalan48

(13,876 posts)
7. Unfortunately, I think we're being played.
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 11:38 AM
Feb 2017

Last edited Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump threw out the bait and the media and left have grabbed it and run with it. When Trump's "Reichstag Event" happens the left and the media will be thoroughly discredited and banished from any public discourse. It will be get in line or get outta here! (We saw this type of language used at his rallies). Trump has shown already he's willing to say anything he thinks is necessary to solidify his power. Why would he stop at only words?

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